HitsRus
Posts: 9,206
Sep 4, 2013 4:30pm
I think con alma may be right when it comes to the casual fan who makes their entertainment decisions more spontaneously. The situation is different for season ticket holders though. those people make commitments by the year(s). You piss them off and they don't renew..... It is really the season ticket holders that form the large base that gives consistent large crowds. The Tribe probably has only about 1/3 the base it use to have. It probably will take a year or two to rebuild that base, and I don't think it will ever get back to close what it once was.
Yesterday's 'crowd' of 9600 probably represents the season ticket base plus about 800-1000 people who chose the Tribe for the 'entertainment' last nite.
Yesterday's 'crowd' of 9600 probably represents the season ticket base plus about 800-1000 people who chose the Tribe for the 'entertainment' last nite.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Sep 4, 2013 4:39pm
HitsRus;1495471 wrote:I think con alma may be right when it comes to the casual fan who makes their entertainment decisions more spontaneously. The situation is different for season ticket holders though. those people make commitments by the year(s). You piss them off and they don't renew..... It is really the season ticket holders that form the large base that gives consistent large crowds. The Tribe probably has only about 1/3 the base it use to have. It probably will take a year or two to rebuild that base, and I don't think it will ever get back to close what it once was.
Yeah we aren't talking solely "casual fans" though. Thus I stand by my statement.
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Sep 4, 2013 5:08pm
For the record, there isnt a whole lot wrong with the CC trade.
We got a GREAT haul for him, on paper, and Milwaukee only had him for half a year (and while they DID make the playoffs, look where they are now because of that trade).
LaPorta, Brantley, Zack Jackson and Bryson for 2.5 months of CC Sabathia was a VERY good trade. If LaPorta turned into anything, and Brantley was the secondary player (like 99% of the world thought would happen), we would be praising the deal.
Cliff Lee on the other hand...everyone knew it was a salary dump and that we didnt get shit in return, when, in theory, we should have gotten a CC type deal PLUS another top 10 prospect in the Phils organization.
FUCK THAT DEAL!
We got a GREAT haul for him, on paper, and Milwaukee only had him for half a year (and while they DID make the playoffs, look where they are now because of that trade).
LaPorta, Brantley, Zack Jackson and Bryson for 2.5 months of CC Sabathia was a VERY good trade. If LaPorta turned into anything, and Brantley was the secondary player (like 99% of the world thought would happen), we would be praising the deal.
Cliff Lee on the other hand...everyone knew it was a salary dump and that we didnt get shit in return, when, in theory, we should have gotten a CC type deal PLUS another top 10 prospect in the Phils organization.
FUCK THAT DEAL!
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vball10set
Posts: 24,795
Sep 4, 2013 5:11pm
Is he still in baseball?Laley23;1495492 wrote:
If LaPorta turned into anything...
Heretic
Posts: 18,820
Sep 4, 2013 5:38pm
Yes. With Columbus. Cleveland's AAA farm club.vball10set;1495493 wrote:Is he still in baseball?
Must have been hurt a good portion of the year, as he has rookie-league at bats and only about 50 games worth of playing at Columbus. And his numbers there weren't much better than they've been with Cleveland (.238 with 10 homers).
iclfan2
Posts: 6,360
Sep 4, 2013 7:20pm
Gomes RBI again!!! Then Santana k's, n Cabrera grounds out. Smh
iclfan2
Posts: 6,360
Sep 4, 2013 7:21pm
Btw I love this lineup w/ Gomes, Rayburn, and Aviles in. If Brantley was in right instead of Stubbs, it'd be perfect
iclfan2
Posts: 6,360
Sep 4, 2013 7:26pm
As I typed that, Rayburn with a 2rbi double and Aviles with an RBI single. 4-0 tribe. I live right by the stadium Shapiro, and my weeknights are open, I can fill in for Terry whenever you'd like!
Crimson streak
Posts: 9,002
Sep 4, 2013 7:26pm
These fuckers never quit. Everytime I count them out they get me interested again
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vball10set
Posts: 24,795
Sep 4, 2013 8:16pm
This (btw, his name is Raburniclfan2;1495526 wrote:Btw I love this lineup w/ Gomes, Rayburn, and Aviles in. If Brantley was in right instead of Stubbs, it'd be perfect
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Glory Days
Posts: 7,809
Sep 4, 2013 8:21pm
and they will all be optioned to AAA Columbus tomorrow for their effort!iclfan2;1495526 wrote:Btw I love this lineup w/ Gomes, Rayburn, and Aviles in. If Brantley was in right instead of Stubbs, it'd be perfect
Crimson streak
Posts: 9,002
Sep 4, 2013 8:44pm
Well fuck tied at 4 now
iclfan2
Posts: 6,360
Sep 4, 2013 9:01pm
Gomes with the answer! Lol n they're intentionally walking Cabrera? Silly
Crimson streak
Posts: 9,002
Sep 4, 2013 9:02pm
Gomes is heating up big time.
TBone14
Posts: 6,383
Sep 4, 2013 9:03pm
Yan fucking Gomes. Kid is a ball player. Can we teach Santana to play 3rd in the offseason?
Mulva
Posts: 13,650
Sep 4, 2013 9:12pm
lol.Laley23;1495492 wrote:For the record, there isnt a whole lot wrong with the CC trade.
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vball10set
Posts: 24,795
Sep 4, 2013 10:08pm
Nice win...Bourn can sure track 'em down in the outfield, now if he only could hit...Gomes is a stud.
TBone14
Posts: 6,383
Sep 4, 2013 10:12pm
Nice series win. Feels like a Glittering Wahoo type of night.
IggyPride00
Posts: 6,482
Sep 4, 2013 10:17pm
The Tribe are set up quite nicely right now as far as the remaining schedule goes. Down to only 3 games back in the wild card.
The Yankees have come out of no where and are now only 2 out after being dead in the water about 2-3 weeks ago.
Still plenty of games to play, but the remaining schedule is a huge advantage for the Tribe. NY will be playing Boston/Baltimore/Tampa 13 times in the next 3 weeks.
The Yankees have come out of no where and are now only 2 out after being dead in the water about 2-3 weeks ago.
Still plenty of games to play, but the remaining schedule is a huge advantage for the Tribe. NY will be playing Boston/Baltimore/Tampa 13 times in the next 3 weeks.
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Sep 4, 2013 11:09pm
Easy to laugh now. But they seriously got a pretty damn good haul, on paper, for a guy who pitched for less than 3 months for Milwaukee.Mulva;1495591 wrote:lol.
royal_k
Posts: 4,423
Sep 5, 2013 12:46am
This team won't quit. Sure wish they could hang with the good teams.
GOONx19
Posts: 7,147
Sep 5, 2013 6:25am
TBone14;1495635 wrote:Nice series win. Feels like a Glittering Wahoo type of night.
Let's get this thing rolling again and make the damn playoffs.
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Con_Alma
Posts: 12,198
Sep 5, 2013 6:25am
I've heard the complaints. I just don't understand it.IggyPride00;1495330 wrote:There were alot of hard feelings in this town over the fact the Dolan's were lining their pockets with fans money (making a huge profit) while doing absolutely nothing to improve the on field product. There was a very strong "who cares what the fans think" vibe coming out of East 9th and Carnegie, and that rubbed alot of people the wrong way. There are some who haven't gotten over it.
I don't care if the Dolans care what I think or not. I hope the Dolans make billions.
I decided to go to the ballpark not based on how much money the Dolans are putting in their pockets or not but rather will I be entertained for the price of the ticket. That's all that really matters.
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Con_Alma
Posts: 12,198
Sep 5, 2013 6:30am
...which is exactly why I posted that I don't understand those that are making decisions based on other factors.like_that;1495450 wrote:Not everyone has a black and white approach to sports like you do con_alma. It's not all about the entertainment. Hope this helps.
If it's not all about the entertainment value, What's it about? Because it's an entertainment industry. by approaching it in any other manner but entertainment would be by definition not having an accurate perspective on the sports industry. Can you help me better understand where you might think that's incorrect?
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Sep 5, 2013 8:10am