IN addition, when he throws that many pitches it accelerates the rate that the Tigers get to the bull-pen.....which has not exactly been the strength of the team this year.

ubaldo is just getting a few extra days. He's thrown a lot of pitches the last few outings so he's just getting a bit of a blow which he is due for.

HitsRus;1482375 wrote:ubaldo is just getting a few extra days. He's thrown a lot of pitches the last few outings so he's just getting a bit of a blow which he is due for.

Not that he probably doesn't need it but the decision is a little more than giving him a needed rest. He's hurting the team right now.

Con_Alma;1482332 wrote:2 out of 3 is only OK if the Tigers lose.

TBone14;1482334 wrote:2 of 3 on the road vs anybody is always good...no matter what. We can't control what they do...we just need to win series. Hell...I would jump up and down for .500 on the road the rest of the way. Tribe haven't been a good road. Winning this series was good.

vball10set;1482335 wrote:Give me a break...as Tbone said, 2 out of 3 on the road is OK anytime!!!

Con_Alma;1482363 wrote: ??? T-bone and I disagree.

It's not OK "anytime". They lost a game in the standing on this short trip.

Its the same as getting beat by the Tigers head up. There's no difference.

no shit, I said I agreed with Tbone, so why the "???"?

vball10set;1482377 wrote:no ****, I said I agreed with Tbone, so why the "???"?

The question marks indicate my lack of understanding in your statement of certainty that 2 of 3 is good.

It's not good if the Tigers win like they did....unless of course you're OK with not making the playoffs then...I guess it is "good".

Do you consider dropping another game back as "good"...whether they are on the road or not.

Con_Alma;1482380 wrote:The question marks indicate my lack of understanding in your statement of certainty that 2 of 3 is good.

It's not good if the Tigers win like they did....unless of course you're OK with not making the playoffs then...I guess it is "good".

Do you consider dropping another game back as "good"...whether they are on the road or not.

I seriously question if you understand Major League Baseball. Your logic and expectations are way off. This isn't some video game where you can go 140-22.

Using your logic...had the Tigers lost 2 of 3 and the Indians lost 2 of 3...it wouldn't have been bad.

The Indians can only control the games they play in. So when they start a 3 game road series, given that to this point they have been a poor road team, 2 of 3 is a good goal. Expecting a sweep is unrealistic. It doesn't matter what the Tigers do, the Indians did what they had to do. They just need to keep grinding out series wins.

The upcoming road trip to Oakland and LA? I would be fine with 3-3 in those games.

Con_Alma;1482376 wrote:Not that he probably doesn't need it but the decision is a little more than giving him a needed rest. He's hurting the team right now.

Seriously??? The start before he gave you eight innings of two-hit ball.... And last start he was victimized by two errors by Druby.

2 out of 3 is good anytime.

.667



Edit:

BTW: .667 = a full season record of 108 - 54

The More You Know!

BRF;1482388 wrote:2 out of 3 is good anytime.

.667



Edit:

BTW: .667 = a full season record of 108 - 54

The More You Know!

It's not about 2 out of 3. It's about going another game back of the Tigers.

How much you win right now doesn't matter. How much you win compared to the Tigers does.

HitsRus;1482387 wrote:Seriously??? The start before he gave you eight innings of two-hit ball.... And last start he was victimized by two errors by Druby.

Seriously. How he's been pitching is not ideal to face the Tigers. Apparently Francona agrees.

TBone14;1482386 wrote:I seriously question if you understand Major League Baseball. Your logic and expectations are way off. This isn't some video game where you can go 140-22.

Using your logic...had the Tigers lost 2 of 3 and the Indians lost 2 of 3...it wouldn't have been bad.

The Indians can only control the games they play in. So when they start a 3 game road series, given that to this point they have been a poor road team, 2 of 3 is a good goal. Expecting a sweep is unrealistic. It doesn't matter what the Tigers do, the Indians did what they had to do. They just need to keep grinding out series wins.

The upcoming road trip to Oakland and LA? I would be fine with 3-3 in those games.

That's not my logic at all.

My logic is what's your record versus the team ahead of you. It's not more complicated than that.

I agree they can only control the gamrs they play in. That would be enough if they were in first. .... They aren't. They are dependent on the play of Tigers....unless the INdians work their way into first.

Con_Alma;1482389 wrote:It's not about 2 out of 3. It's about going another game back of the Tigers.

How much you win right now doesn't matter. How much you win compared to the Tigers does.

I understand.

Do you think the Tigers will win 108 games?



Oh, wait, what a stupid question!!! Of course, they will win way more than that!

BRF;1482388 wrote:2 out of 3 is good anytime.

.667

Thank you.

BRF;1482393 wrote:I understand.

Do you think the Tigers will win 108 games?



Oh, wait, what a stupid question!!! Of course, they will win way more than that!

I don't know nor do I care. What matters is will they win at least 3 less games than the Indians.

How many you win doesn't matter on it's own. How may you win compared to others in your division, does.

vball10set;1482394 wrote:Thank you.

2 out of 3 may be "good" but it may not be good enough.

HitsRus;1482387 wrote:Seriously??? The start before he gave you eight innings of two-hit ball.... And last start he was victimized by two errors by Druby.

exactly. This is both comical and kinda sad....lol

Con_Alma;1482396 wrote:2 out of 3 may be "good" but it may not be good enough.

exactly, its good, but the tigers are winning 3 of 3 lately. so its not good enough. this isnt the beginning of the season when there is time to catch up anymore.

If they continue to win series, no matter where they are at, they will be right in it. They don't have to win the Central to make the playoffs. They are a wild card team right now.

royal_k;1482416 wrote:If they continue to win series, no matter where they are at, they will be right in it. They don't have to win the Central to make the playoffs. They are a wild card team right now.

Earlier in the season I didn't think the widl card was going to be in play after looking at how weak the division appeared. Now I think the wild card is a curse considering the difficulty levied by the playoff setup.

Con_Alma;1482419 wrote:Earlier in the season I didn't think the widl card was going to be in play after looking at how weak the division appeared. Now I think the wild card is a curse considering the difficulty levied by the playoff setup.

And if we win the division, you'd probably hate the matchup we'd get too..