CenterBHSFan
Posts: 6,115
Jun 1, 2016 2:51pm
Sadly, I don't think anybody is suprised by events such as these :/
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gut
Posts: 15,058
Jun 1, 2016 8:11pm
I would say most of the liberals and people who voted for Obama are....but they're in denial of the realities many are experiencing.CenterBHSFan;1797521 wrote:Sadly, I don't think anybody is suprised by events such as these :/
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Jun 1, 2016 8:52pm
Are you kidding me?! More people are insured than ever before!!!!!gut;1797554 wrote:I would say most of the liberals and people who voted for Obama are....but they're in denial of the realities many are experiencing.
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gut
Posts: 15,058
Jun 1, 2016 9:25pm
Yeah....the vast majority of those simply didn't know they were eligible for medicaid. Basically a $2T advertising program.like_that;1797558 wrote:Are you kidding me?! More people are insured than ever before!!!!!
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QuakerOats
Posts: 8,740
Jun 30, 2016 12:00pm
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QuakerOats
Posts: 8,740
Aug 17, 2016 9:36am
Aetna pulling out of obamaKare. The only thing left propping it up are taxpayer bailout funds.
The BIG LIE continues to be exposed.
Change we can believe in ...
The BIG LIE continues to be exposed.
Change we can believe in ...
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Aug 17, 2016 9:57am
Yeah aetna pulling out is a big blow to the ACA. Aetna lost ~$500M last year in their ACA segment so I Don'tn blame them for pulling out.QuakerOats;1807650 wrote:Aetna pulling out of obamaKare. The only thing left propping it up are taxpayer bailout funds.
The BIG LIE continues to be exposed.
Change we can believe in ...
Hopefully this allows us to transition to a single payer health care system.
ptown_trojans_1
Posts: 7,632
Aug 17, 2016 10:02am
Yeah I was waiting on Quaker to post the Aetna news. I am disappointed.
The Aetna news is not good and hell even supporters are saying the law needs some changes. That is not a surprise considering how massive it is.
I would be interested to see how the R's move in the future with this.
The replace movement needs to really roll out their specific plan.
The Aetna news is not good and hell even supporters are saying the law needs some changes. That is not a surprise considering how massive it is.
I would be interested to see how the R's move in the future with this.
The replace movement needs to really roll out their specific plan.
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QuakerOats
Posts: 8,740
Aug 17, 2016 10:11am
Trump will sign the repeal (and replace) legislation.
Clinton will expand obamaKare which will be ruinous to health CARE (not just insurance), and to taxpayers.
The differences are clear.
Clinton will expand obamaKare which will be ruinous to health CARE (not just insurance), and to taxpayers.
The differences are clear.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Aug 17, 2016 10:15am
This news came out a couple days ago and it's sad how it has been swept under the rug just like any news that doesn't shed favorably on Obama.
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Con_Alma
Posts: 12,198
Aug 17, 2016 11:28am
One has been rolled out. Consensus needs to be built. It will be in Committee in 2017 for the specificity that you may be seeking to be finalized.ptown_trojans_1;1807664 wrote:...
The replace movement needs to really roll out their specific plan.
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QuakerOats
Posts: 8,740
Aug 24, 2016 3:26pm
Burying the BIG LIE ....
http://www.weeklystandard.com/obamacare-website-no-longer-addresses-you-can-keep-your-doctor/article/2003956
The disaster rolls on ....................change we can believe in ...
http://www.weeklystandard.com/obamacare-website-no-longer-addresses-you-can-keep-your-doctor/article/2003956
The disaster rolls on ....................change we can believe in ...
Belly35
Posts: 9,716
Aug 24, 2016 3:36pm
More of a reason to vote for Trump for president so Obamacare klusterfuk will be finishes
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QuakerOats
Posts: 8,740
Aug 29, 2016 4:33pm
Let me get this straight; Mylan increases the cost of an Epi-Pen a couple hundred bucks on the few folks who need one and the liberals in congress go batshit crazy. Yet, obamaKare is causing everyone's premiums and deductibles to go up by thousands and thousands and thousands of dollars, and not a word.
It really is impossible to get your hands around the psychotic minds of these completely deranged liberals. Just incredible.
It really is impossible to get your hands around the psychotic minds of these completely deranged liberals. Just incredible.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Aug 29, 2016 4:44pm
They aren't deranged. They are manipulating the masses for political gain. Both Republicans and Democrats do this but the fact that you only focus on when liberals do this tells me you are delusional or stupid.QuakerOats;1808824 wrote:Let me get this straight; Mylan increases the cost of an Epi-Pen a couple hundred bucks on the few folks who need one and the liberals in congress go batshit crazy. Yet, obamaKare is causing everyone's premiums and deductibles to go up by thousands and thousands and thousands of dollars, and not a word.
It really is impossible to get your hands around the psychotic minds of these completely deranged liberals. Just incredible.
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QuakerOats
Posts: 8,740
Aug 29, 2016 4:59pm
You are the one supporting more OF IT...............................speaking of delusional and stupid.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Aug 30, 2016 2:13pm
Spock
Posts: 2,853
Aug 31, 2016 10:01pm
Getting ready to lose insurance and be forced into a HSA.
FatHobbit
Posts: 8,651
Aug 31, 2016 10:27pm
If you like your insurance, you can keep your insurance.Spock;1809205 wrote:Getting ready to lose insurance and be forced into a HSA.
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QuakerOats
Posts: 8,740
Sep 1, 2016 9:43am
It is about time that everyone in your shoes take to the streets in DC, by the millions, and protest the deceitful lies and the historic fuck up that is obamaKare.Spock;1809205 wrote:Getting ready to lose insurance and be forced into a HSA.
And obviously be sure to vote for Trump who will sign the bill repealing obamaKare, ending this nightmare.
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jmog
Posts: 6,567
Sep 1, 2016 1:44pm
ptown_trojans_1;1807664 wrote:Yeah I was waiting on Quaker to post the Aetna news. I am disappointed.
The Aetna news is not good and hell even supporters are saying the law needs some changes. That is not a surprise considering how massive it is.
I would be interested to see how the R's move in the future with this.
The replace movement needs to really roll out their specific plan.
Come on ptown, I know you are an Obama apologist but even you, at this point, have to admit that the ACA is/was a complete debacle and not something that just needs a "few tweaks".
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QuakerOats
Posts: 8,740
Sep 13, 2016 1:49pm
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gut
Posts: 15,058
Sep 13, 2016 9:38pm
Contrast this with the hate for "Bush lied", despite he had a very reasonable and rationale, albeit overconfident (more likely simply overstated), basis on available intel.QuakerOats;1809226 wrote:It is about time that everyone in your shoes take to the streets in DC, by the millions, and protest the deceitful lies and the historic fuck up that is obamaKare.
Obamacare, on the other hand, was very likely KNOWN to be unworkable and the public was deliberately deceived and misled just so it would fail and leave no real option other than single payer. Crickets from the left.
This is why our politicians lie - because it works, because partisans never hold their own accountable.
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QuakerOats
Posts: 8,740
Oct 4, 2016 11:07am
"...officials in nearby Minnesota recently agreeing to huge price hikes in order to convince insurers to stay. Commerce Commissioner Mike Rothman announced Friday that individual market plans could raise rates as high as 67 percent next year. The jump in cost follows this year’s hike of 14 percent to 49 percent.
In a written statement, Rothman, who serves in a Democratic administration, said middle-class residents are getting “crushed” and called for urgent reforms in the state’s individual market."
Arizona in particular is bracing for double-digit premium hikes next year. McCain, who has been a vocal opponent of ObamaCare from the start, maintains “the whole thing is collapsing like a house of cards.”
“Now that the law is unraveling, it’s no surprise that Democrats are clamoring for a so-called ‘
ublic option,’” McCain recently told FoxNews.com in a statement. “If anything is clear about this failed law, it’s that more government intervention is the wrong solution to fixing our health care system.”
Cato Institute scholar Jeffrey Singer believes the public option is nothing more than a sleight of hand and “would eliminate competition, not increase it.”
“Few things are more frightening for the future of American health care,” he wrote. “ObamaCare’s critics were right to predict that it would enter a death spiral; Arizonans are now experiencing it firsthand. Now we must ensure that its death spiral doesn’t take us down an even darker road.”
Liberal/progressive/Marxist policies over the last 7 years are simply killing us.
In a written statement, Rothman, who serves in a Democratic administration, said middle-class residents are getting “crushed” and called for urgent reforms in the state’s individual market."
Arizona in particular is bracing for double-digit premium hikes next year. McCain, who has been a vocal opponent of ObamaCare from the start, maintains “the whole thing is collapsing like a house of cards.”
“Now that the law is unraveling, it’s no surprise that Democrats are clamoring for a so-called ‘
ublic option,’” McCain recently told FoxNews.com in a statement. “If anything is clear about this failed law, it’s that more government intervention is the wrong solution to fixing our health care system.”Cato Institute scholar Jeffrey Singer believes the public option is nothing more than a sleight of hand and “would eliminate competition, not increase it.”
“Few things are more frightening for the future of American health care,” he wrote. “ObamaCare’s critics were right to predict that it would enter a death spiral; Arizonans are now experiencing it firsthand. Now we must ensure that its death spiral doesn’t take us down an even darker road.”
Liberal/progressive/Marxist policies over the last 7 years are simply killing us.
FatHobbit
Posts: 8,651
Oct 6, 2016 6:42pm
http://edition.cnn.com/2016/10/04/politics/bill-clinton-obamacare-craziest-thing/index.html
Bill Clinton says Obamakare is the craziest thing
Bill Clinton says Obamakare is the craziest thing