Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Oct 13, 2015 11:50am
The article was pretty technical, and a little over my head, but I got the gist. Basically, don't be a lazy bum, or eat horrible food and you can moderately drink alcohol without hurting the waistline.
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Oct 13, 2015 11:51am
So beer can pack on the pounds even if drank moderately then?like_that;1756808 wrote:Depends on what alcohol you drink too. Most liquor doesn't have any carbs/fat/protein. Beer does.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Oct 13, 2015 11:51am
Stick to protein when you binge drink.Commander of Awesome;1756809 wrote:The article was pretty technical, and a little over my head, but I got the gist. Basically, don't be a lazy bum, or eat horrible food and you can moderately drink alcohol without hurting the waistline.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Oct 13, 2015 11:53am
The key word is moderately. As long as you factor the macros (carbs/fat/protein) into your daily macros, you should be fine.Commander of Awesome;1756810 wrote:So beer can pack on the pounds even if drank moderately then?
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Oct 13, 2015 11:54am
I rarely binge drink. More like a beer or two for a work HH on a weekday and a few beers on Fri/Sat. I'm not concerned about gaining weight, I was more interested in an overall conversation because I think there is a ton of misinformation on the subject. And I personally found it hard to navigate and shift through the garbage.like_that;1756811 wrote:Stick to protein when you binge drink.
I'm way more concerned with the long term effects of alcohol on my internal body organs long term than I am on weight gain.
MontyBrunswick
Posts: 846
Oct 13, 2015 11:55am
You can replace "drink alcohol" with virtually anything as long as you exercise.Commander of Awesome;1756809 wrote:The article was pretty technical, and a little over my head, but I got the gist. Basically, don't be a lazy bum, or eat horrible food and you can moderately drink alcohol without hurting the waistline.
Azubuike24
Posts: 15,933
Oct 13, 2015 12:03pm
Even drinking say 6 beers a day, you're looking at maybe an additional 500-800 calories. Probably 25% of that is eliminated in metabolizing the alcohol. It's not an exact science because everyone is different and our bodies don't run like a math formula...but the drinking isn't making you fat. It's all the additional stuff. And I wouldn't call 6 beers a day even moderation...most would say that's excessive.
ernest_t_bass
Posts: 24,984
Oct 13, 2015 1:27pm
So 10 beers a day was not making me fat?
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Oct 13, 2015 1:35pm
Probably about 15 years ago, I was in (former)"Ernest Mode" and pounding 10-12 beers 6 nights a week. I was also working out like a motherfucker with a diet heavy in chicken breast, steak & salmon with minimal carbs. Best shape I was ever in. Metabolism was through the roof.Azubuike24;1756817 wrote:Even drinking say 6 beers a day, you're looking at maybe an additional 500-800 calories. Probably 25% of that is eliminated in metabolizing the alcohol. It's not an exact science because everyone is different and our bodies don't run like a math formula...but the drinking isn't making you fat. It's all the additional stuff. And I wouldn't call 6 beers a day even moderation...most would say that's excessive.
Automatik
Posts: 14,632
Oct 13, 2015 1:37pm
Solely the beer? Nope.ernest_t_bass;1756826 wrote:So 10 beers a day was not making me fat?
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Oct 13, 2015 1:50pm
You sleeping better? That's another factor. When I drink I sleep like shit.ernest_t_bass;1756826 wrote:So 10 beers a day was not making me fat?
Automatik
Posts: 14,632
Oct 13, 2015 1:51pm
Pretty much all facets of life are affected by regular booze consumption.
Diet, sleep, exercise, etc.
Diet, sleep, exercise, etc.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Oct 13, 2015 2:07pm
Just saw this posted, and it is partially on topic: http://www.takepart.com/video/2015/10/03/heres-what-happened-when-guy-amsterdam-quit-sugar-and-alcohol-month?cmpid=foodinc-fb
ernest_t_bass
Posts: 24,984
Oct 13, 2015 2:22pm
When the alcohol had completely left my system (let's say, 1 month) I could not believe how much better I was sleeping. Mostly falling asleep. I could easily stay up until midnight every night and pound booze, and wake up at 5:30 hung over as shit. I'm lucky to make it past 10:00 now.Commander of Awesome;1756830 wrote:You sleeping better? That's another factor. When I drink I sleep like shit.
Azubuike24
Posts: 15,933
Oct 13, 2015 3:04pm
When intoxicated, you might think you are "sleeping" well, but you're not doing your body any favors. The hormonal response from "blacked out" sleep isn't at all optimal.
This is a great topic though...funny how the thread got fired up with it.
This is a great topic though...funny how the thread got fired up with it.
Automatik
Posts: 14,632
Oct 13, 2015 4:16pm
It's a solid topic. I hear it brought up by females all the time.
"OMG I drank so much this weekend, I gained 5 lbs!"
"OMG I drank so much this weekend, I gained 5 lbs!"
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Nov 5, 2015 8:22am
Interesting tips/read on bicep curls....
https://www.t-nation.com/training/you-dont-know-how-to-curl?mc_cid=b9672d56e9&mc_eid=5be78f7484
https://www.t-nation.com/training/you-dont-know-how-to-curl?mc_cid=b9672d56e9&mc_eid=5be78f7484
Automatik
Posts: 14,632
Nov 5, 2015 9:27am
I'd say 3/5 people I see curl have terrible form.
That being said, I rarely do curls. Maybe 2-3 times a month.
That being said, I rarely do curls. Maybe 2-3 times a month.
Azubuike24
Posts: 15,933
Nov 5, 2015 10:42am
Depends. There's a time and place for max overload, momentum cheat curls. Constantly doing sets of 15-20 with 60-70 lbs is going to have diminishing returns.
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Nov 5, 2015 1:04pm
I never feel like I'm doing curls correctly unless I'm sitting down with my elbow on the inside of my knee. Too easy to cheat otherwise.Automatik;1761110 wrote:I'd say 3/5 people I see curl have terrible form.
That being said, I rarely do curls. Maybe 2-3 times a month.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Nov 5, 2015 1:21pm
I've learned to really dig/pin my elbows into my sides when doing barbell curls (I use the EZ bar....straight bar messes up my forearms/elbows) and that seems to do the trick. As the weights get much heavier, it's pretty easy to lose form.Commander of Awesome;1761131 wrote:I never feel like I'm doing curls correctly unless I'm sitting down with my elbow on the inside of my knee. Too easy to cheat otherwise.
Automatik
Posts: 14,632
Nov 5, 2015 1:51pm
Lower weight and correct form is key. I was taught that at a very young age. College was ridiculous, you see kids swinging their whole body to get 50s up. :laugh1:
I like seated dumbbells with my back straight and against the pad. Other times I'll do standing with the big straight bar.
I like seated dumbbells with my back straight and against the pad. Other times I'll do standing with the big straight bar.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Nov 5, 2015 2:04pm
An excellent move to build bicep size is a rope hammer curl on the low pulley. You keep constant tension on the arms and it really hits the brachialis.
Azubuike24
Posts: 15,933
Nov 5, 2015 2:33pm
Great debate on curls. Then again, you got guys like Kali Muscle, who has massive arms, who EZ Bar curls 315 (and the reps move like 6 inches). He says that form is irrelevant and it's all about the total weight time the tension.
I don't think he's the most credible, but he's also very over the top...and his point is more that, you're NEVER going to get there with low weight/super high volume sets.
Personally, I'll hit biceps 3 times a week. Not a true arm day, but mixed throughout.
One day with very heavy, low rep, less strict form
One day with very strict, no forearm/elbow movement, high rep to failure
One day with something different, cable curls, chin-ups, etc.
I don't think he's the most credible, but he's also very over the top...and his point is more that, you're NEVER going to get there with low weight/super high volume sets.
Personally, I'll hit biceps 3 times a week. Not a true arm day, but mixed throughout.
One day with very heavy, low rep, less strict form
One day with very strict, no forearm/elbow movement, high rep to failure
One day with something different, cable curls, chin-ups, etc.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Nov 5, 2015 6:58pm
Same. When I do them I do 3 sets of 7-7-7 (bottom to half way, halway to top, and then full curls) and try to burn out.Automatik;1761110 wrote:I'd say 3/5 people I see curl have terrible form.
That being said, I rarely do curls. Maybe 2-3 times a month.