Automatik;1856275 wrote:Here's the pricing for the gym I'm looking into. Would be the most I've paid for a monthly gym by far. Not a chance I do a year contract. I'm thinking go for the one freebie. If I like it, get the 10 class pack and go from there. I'm going with a friend w/ zero experience, so I'm assuming we do a few boxing classes first then go into muay thai.

I've ramped up the HIIT this week....holy shit, got a long way to go. I don't want to show up day 1 and be gassed in 20 minutes.

http://www.bkmuaythai.com/programs

Dr Winston O'Boogie;1856350 wrote:I've been reading a lot about the benefits of high intensity interval training. I did a session on the eliptical today of 20 seconds all out, 40 seconds rest for 10 rounds. When I saw that on paper, I thought it'd be a breeze. On the contrary, it wiped me out. Felt good after though. Anyone have insight HIIT?

I did my first HIIT cardio session today on the recommendation of Automatik. My old way was to just go as long as possible. 40 minutes on the elliptical would be better than 20 or 30, etc. It would take my 10 minutes to break a sweat at a moderate pace and by the end of 40 minutes, I'd have a nice sweat going.

Well, I did a 20 minute HIIT today on an elliptical and you can feel the difference. I was dripping sweat by 8 minutes (including the 3 minute warm up) and after 20 total minutes (including cool down) I was drenched and spent.

3 hours later I can still feel the work out whereas a typical 40 minute elliptical session I would feel nothing by now.

I'm going to mix in some spin cycling next and then the treadmill and maybe some work on the indoor track or just running lines on the basketball court just to keep it different.

Dr Winston O'Boogie;1856350 wrote:I've been reading a lot about the benefits of high intensity interval training. I did a session on the eliptical today of 20 seconds all out, 40 seconds rest for 10 rounds. When I saw that on paper, I thought it'd be a breeze. On the contrary, it wiped me out. Felt good after though. Anyone have insight HIIT?

If you are looking to burn fat & keep muscle, you either sprint (or some other form of HIIT), walk or push/carry heavy shit. There's really no "in between" in the spectrum of fast loss/muscle retention. It's either super slow (walk) or super fast (sprint).

TBone14;1856719 wrote:I did my first HIIT cardio session today on the recommendation of Automatik. My old way was to just go as long as possible. 40 minutes on the elliptical would be better than 20 or 30, etc. It would take my 10 minutes to break a sweat at a moderate pace and by the end of 40 minutes, I'd have a nice sweat going.

Well, I did a 20 minute HIIT today on an elliptical and you can feel the difference. I was dripping sweat by 8 minutes (including the 3 minute warm up) and after 20 total minutes (including cool down) I was drenched and spent.

3 hours later I can still feel the work out whereas a typical 40 minute elliptical session I would feel nothing by now.

I'm going to mix in some spin cycling next and then the treadmill and maybe some work on the indoor track or just running lines on the basketball court just to keep it different.

As you mentioned, the benefits of brief, intense HIIT versus slow, steady state cardio (like distance running, moderate elliptical work, etc) is that you will continue to burn fat for longer periods after an HIIT workout.

BR1986FB;1856841 wrote:If you are looking to burn fat & keep muscle, you either sprint (or some other form of HIIT), walk or push/carry heavy shit. There's really no "in between" in the spectrum of fast loss/muscle retention. It's either super slow (walk) or super fast (sprint).

Sounds like broscience to me.

sleeper;1856843 wrote:Sounds like broscience to me.

Nope. If you're looking for an emaciated, stringy look...run for distance (marathon, half marathon, etc). Over time, you'll achieve that look. If you want to retain muscle mass it's short, intense burst, whether through carrying or pushing heavy weights or some form of HIIT OR walking for a good 30-45 minutes.

BR1986FB;1856847 wrote:Nope. If you're looking for an emaciated, stringy look...run for distance (marathon, half marathon, etc). Over time, you'll achieve that look. If you want to retain muscle mass it's short, intense burst, whether through carrying or pushing heavy weights or some form of HIIT OR walking for a good 30-45 minutes.

You know he is trolling you, right?

Sonofanump;1856865 wrote:You know he is trolling you, right?

False. I don't think his opinion is accurate and is based on broscience rather than reality.

sleeper;1856866 wrote:False. I don't think his opinion is accurate and is based on broscience rather than reality.

Well, considering all of the recent "science" (not "broscience") says so, I'd go with that.

Sonofanump;1856865 wrote:You know he is trolling you, right?

Yeah, I know. He has to live up to his multiple "personas." It's funny that a supposed 'adult" seems to get their jollies with multiple personas/usernames on a message board. One would think there would be a point where it's time to grow up?

BR1986FB;1856870 wrote:Well, considering all of the recent "science" (not "broscience") says so, I'd go with that.

So it's black and white? I'm not debating your logic of the workouts, but the idea that there is no gray area is asinine.

BR1986FB;1856872 wrote:Yeah, I know. He has to live up to his multiple "personas." It's funny that a supposed 'adult" seems to get their jollies with multiple personas/usernames on a message board. One would think there would be a point where it's time to grow up?

This is a false narrative. People only bring this crap up because they are unable to take criticism and assume everything I say is because I'm trying to troll.

The real question is, when is everyone else going to grow up?

The fraud troll trash sleeper is adding nothing to another thread by showing he doesn't know what he is talking about.

Sleeper, kindly fuck off. Stick to the politard topics.

sleeper;1856875 wrote:So it's black and white? I'm not debating your logic of the workouts, but the idea that there is no gray area is asinine.

I think my earlier post explained the two extremes (distance running, for long distances vs sprinting/HIIT).

The "gray" area, of which you speak, would probably be some sort of "mid-distance" running. I doubt anyone is going to raise their cortisol levels significant enough to get that distance runners "gut" running a 400, 800 or even 1600 meters.

I can't give you an "exact" distance where cortisol levels raise, and are elevated, for prolonged periods of time, but it's not going to happen doing sprints. It will spike for a short period of time and then drop back to normal. It will stay elevated running for long distances.

If you need an example, have you ever seen a marathon runner built like Usain Bolt or a sprinter built like a long distance runner?

BR1986FB;1856882 wrote:I think my earlier post explained the two extremes (distance running, for long distances vs sprinting/HIIT).

The "gray" area, of which you speak, would probably be some sort of "mid-distance" running. I doubt anyone is going to raise their cortisol levels significant enough to get that distance runners "gut" running a 400, 800 or even 1600 meters.

I can't give you an "exact" distance where cortisol levels raise, and are elevated, for prolonged periods of time, but it's not going to happen doing sprints. It will spike for a short period of time and then drop back to normal. It will stay elevated running for long distances.

If you need an example, have you ever seen a marathon runner built like Usain Bolt or a sprinter built like a long distance runner?

Ever seen a professional soccer player?

like_that;1856877 wrote:The fraud troll trash sleeper is adding nothing to another thread by showing he doesn't know what he is talking about.

Okay and how does this contribute to the thread?

Sorry for auditing this thread for 'broscience'. Carry on spreading misinformation because it sounds good.

Automatik;1856878 wrote:Sleeper, kindly fuck off. Stick to the politard topics.

?????

sleeper;1856884 wrote:Ever seen a professional soccer player?

Yeah they are sprinting quite a bit.

sleeper;1856884 wrote:Ever seen a professional soccer player?

You mean the athletes who sprint in intervals all game? Yes, nice job proving yourself wrong.

BR1986FB;1856890 wrote:Yeah they are sprinting quite a bit.

Sprinting quite a bit for 45 minutes. Right.

Games last 90 minutes + stoppage time.

Average distance covered is 7 miles.

You're welcome.

Automatik;1856962 wrote:Games last 90 minutes + stoppage time.

Average distance covered is 7 miles.

You're welcome.

Yeah I guess it's just me but when I run for 90+ minutes I don't consider that sprinting. Sprinting for long periods of time is long distance running.

But again, people don't like intellectuals. I understand the hatred of people like me because intelligence isn't cool it's rather about who confirms your own reality. Ever seen the movie idiocracy?

Continue the circle jerk. Sorry for trying to question bro science; whatever makes you feel good is what's best for you.

sleeper;1856965 wrote:Yeah I guess it's just me but when I run for 90+ minutes I don't consider that sprinting. Sprinting for long periods of time is long distance running.

But again, people don't like intellectuals. I understand the hatred of people like me because intelligence isn't cool it's rather about who confirms your own reality. Ever seen the movie idiocracy?

Continue the circle jerk. Sorry for trying to question bro science; whatever makes you feel good is what's best for you.

So don't you follow or ever played soccer? Got it.

Lol at sleeper getting butt hurt, because he got bitch slapped for posting garbage in this thread.

Trying to make an argument over nothing. :laugh:

I'm not strongly for or against either point of this dumbass argument. I prefer a balance of the two.

like_that;1856969 wrote:So don't you follow or ever played soccer? Got it.

Lol at sleeper getting butt hurt, because he got bitch slapped for posting garbage in this thread.

????

It's fine. You really should go see the movie.

Anyways, once again, just because I post in a thread doesn't mean the thread needs to degrade into personal attacks. Amazing that we can't have a discussion and instead need to circle jerk each other for whatever opinion helps the feelz.