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May 22, 2013 10:43 AM
WebFire;1446488 wrote:If that is the case, that is a dispatch problem, not a responding cop problem. They've already said the police were unaware of the hostage.
What about the girl who came running out screaming as they arrived? Why didn't they question her before going in?
May 22, 2013 10:43am
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May 22, 2013 10:43 AM
LJ;1446489 wrote:Why is it moronic that I think the cops were wrong to shoot the girl in the head? :laugh:
Nobody is saying it is "right" to shoot anyone in the head. I think most just want more info before forming an opinion.
May 22, 2013 10:43am
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May 22, 2013 10:46 AM
LJ;1446491 wrote:What about the girl who came running out screaming as they arrived? Why didn't they question her before going in?
The article posted makes no mention of a girl running out screaming. Was that posted later?
May 22, 2013 10:46am
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May 22, 2013 10:46 AM
LJ;1446489 wrote:Why is it moronic that I think the cops were wrong to shoot the girl in the head? :laugh:

Because the cop wasn't TRYING to shoot the girl, you dolt.
May 22, 2013 10:46am
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May 22, 2013 10:47 AM
the article i read said the crook sent one girl to the door and told her to say everything was ok. she answered the door and yelled hes got a gun and ran...or something like that
May 22, 2013 10:47am
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May 22, 2013 10:49 AM
dlazz;1446498 wrote:Because the cop wasn't TRYING to shoot the girl, you dolt.
Nah, he just shot 8 shots at a guy who was holding a hostage closely. I mean it's not like the drunk tries to run over the little kid on a bicycle right?
May 22, 2013 10:49am
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May 22, 2013 10:51 AM
WebFire;1446497 wrote:The article posted makes no mention of a girl running out screaming. Was that posted later?
Other articles. More recent ones. The other twin.
The two cops arrived at the house just as Jessica was escaping through the front door, screaming that Smith had a gun. Budimlic saw movement in the house and stepped inside


http://gothamist.com/2013/05/20/hofstra_student_killing_cops_didnt.php
May 22, 2013 10:51am
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May 22, 2013 10:53 AM
LJ;1446502 wrote:Nah, he just shot 8 shots at a guy who was holding a hostage closely.
No, he shot 8 shots at a guy who was pointing a gun at him.

LJ;1446502 wrote:I mean it's not like the drunk tries to run over the little kid on a bicycle right?
Terrible analogy.
May 22, 2013 10:53am
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May 22, 2013 10:54 AM
dlazz;1446506 wrote:He shot 8 shots at a guy who was pointing a gun at him.




Terrible analogy.
Is it? Both were reckless before they killed someone innocent.
May 22, 2013 10:54am
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May 22, 2013 10:57 AM
LJ;1446504 wrote:Other articles. More recent ones. The other twin.



http://gothamist.com/2013/05/20/hofstra_student_killing_cops_didnt.php
Thanks. Gives a better account of what happened. I honestly have no problem with the way it went down. However, it did end tragically. Could the cop have "interviewed" the girl running out? Perhaps. But it sounds like it was pretty bang-bang and would definitely need more info on that.
May 22, 2013 10:57am
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May 22, 2013 11:04 AM
LJ;1446507 wrote:Is it? Both were reckless before they killed someone innocent.

By your analogy, someone who is jaywalking is just as reckless as a burglar/robbery suspect.
May 22, 2013 11:04am
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May 22, 2013 12:34 PM
WebFire;1446510 wrote:Thanks. Gives a better account of what happened. I honestly have no problem with the way it went down. However, it did end tragically. Could the cop have "interviewed" the girl running out? Perhaps. But it sounds like it was pretty bang-bang and would definitely need more info on that.
I agree! It's totally cool and awesome that an innocent female got blown away by a cop! No problems whatsoever!
May 22, 2013 12:34pm
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May 22, 2013 1:20 PM
Heretic;1446554 wrote:I agree! It's totally cool and awesome that an innocent female got blown away by a cop! No problems whatsoever!
Yep, that's exactly what I said. :rolleyes:
May 22, 2013 1:20pm
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May 22, 2013 1:29 PM
WebFire;1446579 wrote:Yep, that's exactly what I said. :rolleyes:
You said you had no problems with how it went down. How it went down was an innocent person was shot and killed by the cop.

What's next? Pull a FWK and say the girl was 5% at fault for being home when the dude broke in?
May 22, 2013 1:29pm
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May 22, 2013 1:31 PM
Heretic;1446593 wrote:You said you had no problems with how it went down. How it went down was an innocent person was shot and killed by the cop.

What's next? Pull a FWK and say the girl was 5% at fault for being home when the dude broke in?
Yeah ok dude.
May 22, 2013 1:31pm
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May 22, 2013 1:33 PM
Heretic;1446593 wrote:You said you had no problems with how it went down. How it went down was an innocent person was shot and killed by the cop.

What's next? Pull a FWK and say the girl was 5% at fault for being home when the dude broke in?
I don't think this is quite the same. I *think* WebFire is saying that in hind site it didn't work out (obviously) but with what the cop knew at the time and the way things progressed he is ok with how the cop responded. I didn't read any blame for the poor girl from his comments.
May 22, 2013 1:33pm
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May 22, 2013 3:38 PM
LJ;1446483 wrote:BTW, your link says the opposite of what you claim
Bad article then. If you listen to the dispatch tapes, the cop saw the guy driving around the parking lot, loses sight of the guy right before he goes inside. The cops didnt approach the guy until he came out and had already killed.
May 22, 2013 3:38pm
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May 22, 2013 4:18 PM
from LJ's article

http://gothamist.com/2013/05/20/hofstra_student_killing_cops_didnt.php

Budimlic saw movement in the house and stepped inside. Almost instantly, he was separated from his partner when the front door slammed shut and locked the other cop out.
How the fuck does that happen?
May 22, 2013 4:18pm
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May 22, 2013 4:58 PM
FatHobbit;1446749 wrote:from LJ's article

http://gothamist.com/2013/05/20/hofstra_student_killing_cops_didnt.php



How the fuck does that happen?

We had an apartment building that had all weighted doors and re-locking locks. They used to be really common in rentals.
May 22, 2013 4:58pm
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May 22, 2013 4:58 PM
Glory Days;1446707 wrote:Bad article then. If you listen to the dispatch tapes, the cop saw the guy driving around the parking lot, loses sight of the guy right before he goes inside. The cops didnt approach the guy until he came out and had already killed.
Then post an article that backs up what you are saying rather than stating the exact opposite?
May 22, 2013 4:58pm
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May 22, 2013 5:02 PM
LJ;1446777 wrote:We had an apartment building that had all weighted doors and re-locking locks. They used to be really common in rentals.
That would make sense, but they also said the boyfriend had gone out to move his car so the apt door wasn't locked. That's how he got in.
May 22, 2013 5:02pm
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May 22, 2013 5:11 PM
FatHobbit;1446780 wrote:That would make sense, but they also said the boyfriend had gone out to move his car so the apt door wasn't locked. That's how he got in.
The girl also came running out. With all the commotion it could have gotten locked.
May 22, 2013 5:11pm
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May 23, 2013 12:40 AM
The article i read said that right about the time the cop showed up, a male, the victim and the suspect where walking down the stairs. somehow the male fell down the stairs and rolled into the door which closed the front door to the house. that is when the suspect saw the cop and grabbed the girl.
May 23, 2013 12:40am
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May 23, 2013 12:41 AM
LJ;1446778 wrote:Then post an article that backs up what you are saying rather than stating the exact opposite?
but then you couldnt tell me i was wrong.
May 23, 2013 12:41am