wildcats20
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Apr 13, 2013 12:04am
Apparently there is some sort of an issue with Tiger's drop on 15....
Laley23
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Apr 13, 2013 12:17am
Might be DQ'd
wildcats20
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Apr 13, 2013 12:17am
Jason Sobel is saying the ball was dropped on a different line from when the ball last crossed the hazard.
Laley23
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Apr 13, 2013 12:22am
I love shit like that. How the fuck could anyone tell where the ball crossed and that the drop didnt match up??? lolwildcats20;1424558 wrote:Jason Sobel is saying the ball was dropped on a different line from when the ball last crossed the hazard.
wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
Apr 13, 2013 12:24am
Right.Laley23;1424560 wrote:I love shit like that. How the fuck could anyone tell where the ball crossed and that the drop didnt match up??? lol
There is a picture out there with some lines on it, which doesn't show much other than the ball being about 2 feet from his first divot. Which doesn't mean anything honestly.
Terry_Tate
Posts: 7,606
Apr 13, 2013 12:33am
Shit would go crazy if they announce he is dairy queened in the morning.
IggyPride00
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Apr 13, 2013 1:11am
Nothing a phone call from the head of CBS to Billy Payne can't solve.wildcats20;1424556 wrote:Apparently there is some sort of an issue with Tiger's drop on 15....
If they disqualify Tiger with him in contention CBS will raise holy hell.
se-alum
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Apr 13, 2013 2:52am
Tiger could be throwing the ball onto the green and they wouldn't DQ him. Hoping Day stays in contention so they show plenty of his wife.
IggyPride00
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Apr 13, 2013 2:57am
I was reading they may be feeling more pressure to DQ him after so strictly enforcing the rules on the Chinese kid. They run the risk of looking like massive hypocrites allowing Tiger to break a rule and yet assessing the 14 year old the first slow play penalty in over a decade.se-alum;1424581 wrote:Tiger could be throwing the ball onto the green and they wouldn't DQ him.
David Feherety said on Golf channel tonight it was an illegal drop, and that Tiger should be disqualified. It will be world war III if it happens, but after what they did today they almost have to if that drop is ruled to be illegal.
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ironman02
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Apr 13, 2013 9:01am
This is such an ambiguous rule. If they actually DQ him for dropping his ball less than 2 yards further away from hole, then it's just crazy. I know rules are rules, but this one seems pretty flexible. I haven't had a chance to watch what Feherty had to say, but come on. It's not like he's dropping away from some type of hazard such as a bunker or tree...he's in the middle of the damn fairway.
http://espn.go.com/golf/masters13/story/_/id/9167178/2013-masters-tiger-woods-faces-possible-dq-ball-drop
• He could have played from a designated drop area, which he chose not to do because he did not like the lie.
• He could drop the ball, keeping the point where it last crossed the margin of the water between the hole and the spot on which the ball would be dropped. Since the ball entered the water well left of Woods' position from the fairway, it would seem he did not choose this option -- which would have allowed him to drop on a straight line as far back as he wanted.
• Or, he could return to the original spot from which he played, and drop "as nearly as possible,'' from where he played the third shot.
http://espn.go.com/golf/masters13/story/_/id/9167178/2013-masters-tiger-woods-faces-possible-dq-ball-drop
• He could have played from a designated drop area, which he chose not to do because he did not like the lie.
• He could drop the ball, keeping the point where it last crossed the margin of the water between the hole and the spot on which the ball would be dropped. Since the ball entered the water well left of Woods' position from the fairway, it would seem he did not choose this option -- which would have allowed him to drop on a straight line as far back as he wanted.
• Or, he could return to the original spot from which he played, and drop "as nearly as possible,'' from where he played the third shot.
Hb31187
Posts: 8,534
Apr 13, 2013 9:21am
Golf has rules that are way way to vague. They wont DQ Tiger if they know whats good for the sport and dont wanna commit ratings suicide.
said_aouita
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Apr 13, 2013 9:33am
2 shot penalty
Laley23
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Apr 13, 2013 9:44am
I like that they used the new "HDTV" rule. lol
Although, I will say, it kind of DOES have relevence here. While you didnt need HDTV to see it wasnt as near as possible, no one notices without the benefit of replay, which in essence is TV. So I guess it kind of makes sense, though it was clearly used to keep Tiger in the field.
Although, I will say, it kind of DOES have relevence here. While you didnt need HDTV to see it wasnt as near as possible, no one notices without the benefit of replay, which in essence is TV. So I guess it kind of makes sense, though it was clearly used to keep Tiger in the field.
IggyPride00
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Apr 13, 2013 9:45am
Yup. Since he signed the score card already then they have to DQ him.said_aouita;1424610 wrote:2 shot penalty
Dustin Johnson was DQ'd from a playoff at the PGA for signing an illegal score card as well after the fact.
If that drop is deemed illegal, then Woods needs to go .
Maybe it will force them to revisit this ridiculous rule about being DQ'd from the tourney when an illegal penalty comes up after the fact.
IggyPride00
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Apr 13, 2013 9:47am
Tiger is the one who said in the post rounder presser he dropped it further back than the original shot. That is what sparked this whole thing. Had he kept his mouth shut I suspect this never comes up.Laley23;1424614 wrote:I like that they used the new "HDTV" rule. lol
Although, I will say, it kind of DOES have relevence here. While you didnt need HDTV to see it wasnt as near as possible, no one notices without the benefit of replay, which in essence is TV. So I guess it kind of makes sense, though it was clearly used to keep Tiger in the field.
Crimson streak
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Apr 13, 2013 9:47am
said_aouita;1424610 wrote:2 shot penalty
What a joke I hope tiger comes out today pissed off and just kills it
Laley23
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Apr 13, 2013 9:51am
Right, but still without TV you cant show it.IggyPride00;1424616 wrote:Tiger is the one who said in the post rounder presser he dropped it further back than the original shot. That is what sparked this whole thing. Had he kept his mouth shut I suspect this never comes up.
Im saying its a violation. They used the new HDTV rule as a loophole to keep him around.
IggyPride00
Posts: 6,482
Apr 13, 2013 9:52am
Wow, this is unreal.
Never seen the penalty added and then a guy not disqualified for signing an illegal scorecard.
Never seen the penalty added and then a guy not disqualified for signing an illegal scorecard.
Laley23
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Apr 13, 2013 9:54am
Again, thats because this new rule is, in the grande scheme of things, brand new.IggyPride00;1424619 wrote:Wow, this is unreal.
Never seen the penalty added and then a guy not disqualified for signing an illegal scorecard.
Hb31187
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Apr 13, 2013 10:09am
This is completely and totally retarded. A penalty for that? Smh @ golf and its rules, just commited ratings suicide if Tiger isnt in contention now because of the penalty
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ironman02
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Apr 13, 2013 10:14am
Like laley said, there's a new amendment to the rule that states if the player is unaware that he broke the rule, and the officials don't point it out until after the scorecard was signed, then a penalty can be given rather than a DQ.IggyPride00;1424619 wrote:Wow, this is unreal.
Never seen the penalty added and then a guy not disqualified for signing an illegal scorecard.
This amendment is a good thing since the rules are clearly complicated and can be interpreted in several different ways.
Terry_Tate
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Apr 13, 2013 10:19am
ironman02;1424627 wrote:Like laley said, there's a new amendment to the rule that states if the player is unaware that he broke the rule, and the officials don't point it out until after the scorecard was signed, then a penalty can be given rather than a DQ.
This amendment is a good thing since the rules are clearly complicated and can be interpreted in several different ways.
I agree with this. Have no problem with keeping guys from being disqualified. Give them a penalty and move on.
bases_loaded
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Apr 13, 2013 10:32am
IggyPride00;1424615 wrote:Yup. Since he signed the score card already then they have to DQ him.
Dustin Johnson was DQ'd from a playoff at the PGA for signing an illegal score card as well after the fact.
If that drop is deemed illegal, then Woods needs to go .
Maybe it will force them to revisit this ridiculous rule about being DQ'd from the tourney when an illegal penalty comes up after the fact.
DJ was given a 2 shot penalty as well. Not DQ
IggyPride00
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Apr 13, 2013 10:38am
All of the golf channel analysts (former players at least) right now are calling for Tiger to withdraw for knowingly breaking the rules as he admitteed in his press conference. Talk of asteriks if he were to come back and win.
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ironman02
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Apr 13, 2013 10:45am
He didn't knowingly break the rule. He misinterpreted the rule. You think he would have intentionally set himself up for a penalty so he could hit a shot from less than two yards away in the middle of the fairway?IggyPride00;1424632 wrote:All of the golf channel analysts (former players at least) right now are calling for Tiger to withdraw for knowingly breaking the rules as he admitteed in his press conference. Talk of asteriks if he were to come back and win.
The fact that the ball shot off at an angle after it hit the flagstick caused the problem. Tiger mistakenly combined two rules, thinking he could simply hit from the same line, rather than the exact same spot.
These jackasses calling for him to DQ himself are crazy. He incurred the penalty that the rule deems necessary, and even more actually since he got screwed by it hitting the flagstick. He went from birdie to bogey, and then got nailed with 2 extra shots.