Archive 2013 Cleveland Browns Thread: RIP Chud

shook_17

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Feb 5, 2013 3:50pm

lololololo

ohiobucks1

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Feb 5, 2013 3:57pm

I think Weeden actually has a MUCH better year this year. I think things will click for him this year and he will go off for like 3800+ 25+ Td < 10 INT

Also, this thread has been ruined.

Rotinaj

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Feb 5, 2013 4:01pm

like_that;1382380 wrote:Who cares? Next year it will be the same ****. 4-12 after three years chud will be fired along with banner and Lombardi then we will switch back to the 4-3.

Im sorry it double posted. please forgive me dad

Commander of Awesome

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Feb 5, 2013 4:01pm

ohiobucks1;1382457 wrote:Also, this thread has been ruined.

Who cares? Next year it will be the same shit. 4-12 after three years chud will be fired along with banner and Lombardi then we will switch back to the 4-3.

Commander of Awesome

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Feb 5, 2013 4:17pm

#Browns cut DE Frostee Rucker, the team announced. Started all 16 games last season.

Must not fit the 3-Fail defense.

wes_mantooth

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Feb 5, 2013 4:33pm

Anyone catch florio talking about flacco to the browns? It was interesting...not so much that he would end up there, but that the browns are the one team that can drive up his price and handicap the ravens on salary cap issues

like_that

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Feb 5, 2013 4:33pm

Commander of Awesome;1382475 wrote:#Browns cut DE Frostee Rucker, the team announced. Started all 16 games last season.

Must not fit the 3-Fail defense.

Smh. He was pretty serviceable in a 4-3.

like_that

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Feb 5, 2013 4:35pm

wes_mantooth;1382496 wrote:Anyone catch florio talking about flacco to the browns? It was interesting...not so much that he would end up there, but that the browns are the one team that can drive up his price and handicap the ravens on salary cap issues

Is he a restricted FA? If so that would bring the lulz, however it's pretty risky.

Commander of Awesome

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Feb 5, 2013 4:38pm

wes_mantooth;1382496 wrote:Anyone catch florio talking about flacco to the browns? It was interesting...not so much that he would end up there, but that the browns are the one team that can drive up his price and handicap the ravens on salary cap issues

Ravens are going to either tender him (RFA) Sign him (most likely), Franchise him (next likely) or match whatever anyone else signs him to. None of these options end with him being in Cleveland.

like_that

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Feb 5, 2013 4:42pm

Commander of Awesome;1382503 wrote:Ravens are going to either tender him (RFA) Sign him (most likely), Franchise him (next likely) or match whatever anyone else signs him to. None of these options end with him being in Cleveland.

That's Wes's point. If he is a RFA Cleveland can drive up his price lol.

bases_loaded

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Feb 5, 2013 4:46pm

@evansilva: #Browns quietly have impressive pieces for new 3-4. Taylor on nose, Rubin 5-tech. Winn at RE. DQwell & JMJ inside. Need OLB opposite Sheard.

Commander of Awesome

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Feb 5, 2013 4:48pm

Where does Foot, Fujita, Hughes, Gocong fit in this scheme? Also need 2 CBs and a starting caliber FS (plus depth at both).

wes_mantooth

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Feb 5, 2013 4:53pm

like_that;1382509 wrote:That's Wes's point. If he is a RFA Cleveland can drive up his price lol.

yeah, it is more of a bargaining chip kind of thing for him. If they franchise him, according to Florio...he would be sitting at 20 mil. Then that is the bottom of where they can offer to sign him in a long term deal. It is just interesting that the Browns could play a factor in them having to release guys like Boldin and Kruger.

Commander of Awesome

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Feb 5, 2013 4:58pm

wes_mantooth;1382519 wrote:yeah, it is more of a bargaining chip kind of thing for him. If they franchise him, according to Florio...he would be sitting at 20 mil. Then that is the bottom of where they can offer to sign him in a long term deal. It is just interesting that the Browns could play a factor in them having to release guys like Boldin and Kruger.

Oh I see, that would be awesome. Love to snag a guy like Kruger, had a huge sack in the SB.

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Sonofanump

Feb 5, 2013 5:03pm

Commander of Awesome;1382515 wrote:Where does Foot, Fujita, Hughes, Gocong fit in this scheme? Also need 2 CBs and a starting caliber FS (plus depth at both).

I think Fujita is done, at least in Cleveland. Gocong would be a servicable backup to Mingo.

Crimson streak

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Feb 5, 2013 5:20pm

Sonofanump;1382524 wrote:I think Fujita is done, at least in Cleveland. Gocong would be a servicable backup to Mingo.

Hell I would take mingo, Moore or jones at 6

wes_mantooth

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Feb 5, 2013 5:24pm

Commander of Awesome;1382521 wrote:Oh I see, that would be awesome. Love to snag a guy like Kruger, had a huge sack in the SB.

Agreed. I thought it was a really interesting take, mainly because of the Browns having a boatload of money and that Banner is supposedly a salary cap expert....so I assume he would be interested in fucking over bmore.

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Sonofanump

Feb 5, 2013 7:17pm

Crimson streak;1382542 wrote:Hell I would take mingo, Moore or jones at 6

Should be possible, just need Gino Smith & Luke Joeckel taken ahead of them to have a good draft.

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BR1986FB

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Feb 6, 2013 7:22am

Commander of Awesome;1382503 wrote:Ravens are going to either tender him (RFA) Sign him (most likely), Franchise him (next likely) or match whatever anyone else signs him to. None of these options end with him being in Cleveland.

Hypothetically (won't happen), if the Browns threw a ridiculous contract at Flacco, with some kind of poison pill that the Rats couldn't match, they'd be fucked.

For as much as I believe Weeden has a chance to flourish in this offense, if they have a chance to nab Flacco, weakening a division opponent, I do it. Even if it means giving up two 1st's. Flacco isn't "elite" but he is a franchise QB with a Super Bowl ring and he fits Turner/Chud's scheme (big arm).

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BR1986FB

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Feb 6, 2013 8:58am

In the wrong system? Passes batted down because of the 3 step drop? Why...why....Pluto's an idiot !!!! :rolleyes:

http://www.cleveland.com/pluto/blog/index.ssf/2013/02/statistics_show_west_coast_was.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

CLEconomically Speaking

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Feb 6, 2013 9:39am

Crimson streak;1382542 wrote:Hell I would take mingo, Moore or jones at 6

What if we are able to sign Paul Kruger or Anthony Spencer? Then assuming Sheard can make the transition, we can focus the draft on the secondary.. if Milliner is gone at six you trade down and take Rhodes or Banks. This might even be better than getting Milliner beacuse then you can take a FS with your newly acquired second round pick.

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BR1986FB

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Feb 6, 2013 9:41am

CLEconomically Speaking;1383317 wrote:What if we are able to sign Paul Kruger or Anthony Spencer? Then assuming Sheard can make the transition, we can focus the draft on the secondary.. if Milliner is gone at six you trade down and take Rhodes or Banks. This might even be better than getting Milliner beacuse then you can take a FS with your newly acquired second round pick.

I'd take Spencer. I like Kruger, a lot, but have heard questions about him in a 3-4. I like that Ellerbe too. They (Rats) won't be able to re-sign both linebackers AND keep Flacco.

Mulva

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Feb 6, 2013 9:56am

BR1986FB;1383321 wrote: I like Kruger, a lot, but have heard questions about him in a 3-4.

Am I misreading this? He already plays in a 3-4.

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BR1986FB

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Feb 6, 2013 10:01am

Mulva;1383337 wrote:Am I misreading this? He already plays in a 3-4.

I think Baltimore plays more of a hybrid version running both 4-3 & 3-4. I read something about Kruger not being the best for a 3-4 which wouldn't make sense if they are in that set more than the 4-3.

CLEconomically Speaking

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Feb 6, 2013 10:05am

Building off my last post.. what if we trade Sheard? He would easily bring a second round pick. Then you look at guys like Jelani Jenkins or John Simon for that pass rushing OLB.