Archive 2013 Cleveland Browns Thread: RIP Chud

Commander of Awesome

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Feb 6, 2013 10:56am

CLEconomically Speaking;1383317 wrote:What if we are able to sign Paul Kruger or Anthony Spencer? Then assuming Sheard can make the transition, we can focus the draft on the secondary.. if Milliner is gone at six you trade down and take Rhodes or Banks. This might even be better than getting Milliner beacuse then you can take a FS with your newly acquired second round pick.

No on corner at 6. NO.

CLEconomically Speaking

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Feb 6, 2013 10:57am

This guy has Jarvis Jones going 17th overall...
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/nfldraftscout-DaneBrugler
Even the guys at bleacher report arent that stupid.

CLEconomically Speaking

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Feb 6, 2013 10:58am

Commander of Awesome;1383430 wrote:No on corner at 6. NO.

Are you opposed to trading down for a corner and a FS?

Commander of Awesome

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Feb 6, 2013 11:13am

CLEconomically Speaking;1383434 wrote:Are you opposed to trading down for a corner and a FS?

No, but I'm opposed to reaching for a corner at #6. None of these guys are a value pick there. Rather get a decent corner in the 2nd and not fuck our salary cap down the road. Plus Eagles proved 2 stud corners doesn't equal good defense. Rather get a stud DE/pass rush at 6 and not trade down. Or trade back and get a stud OG and FS.

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BR1986FB

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Feb 6, 2013 11:21am

Commander of Awesome;1383455 wrote:No, but I'm opposed to reaching for a corner at #6. None of these guys are a value pick there. Rather get a decent corner in the 2nd and not fuck our salary cap down the road. Plus Eagles proved 2 stud corners doesn't equal good defense. Rather get a stud DE/pass rush at 6 and not trade down. Or trade back and get a stud OG and FS.

Haden was considered a reach when the Browns took him. Mocks right before that draft had him falling to the Steelers who took, I believe, Pouncey in that draft. But I do agree with you that there's no corner at #6 worth taking.

Commander of Awesome

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Feb 6, 2013 11:22am

Pass Rush

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BR1986FB

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Feb 6, 2013 11:27am

Commander of Awesome;1383471 wrote:Pass Rush

Agreed

like_that

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Feb 6, 2013 11:32am

Trading down is the only way I'd be ok with taking a defensive back in the first round.

CLEconomically Speaking

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Feb 6, 2013 11:43am

Prior to the draft: 1. Sign Kruger or Spencer 2. Trade Sheard for a 2nd round pick
Then trade down from 6 overall and pick up an additional 2nd

round 1: Xavier Rhodes, CB, FSU
round 2: Margus Hunt, DE, SMU
round 2: Jelani Jenkins, OLB, Florida
round 3: Baccarri Rambo, FS, Georgia
round 4: Lonnie Pryor, FB, FSU
round 5: Kiko Alonso, ILB, Oregon
round 6: Quinn Sharp, P, Oregon State
round 6: Jake Stoneburner, TE, Ohio State

Commander of Awesome

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Feb 6, 2013 11:50am

lol those moves are ridiculous. You're living in a pipe dream that it's "easy" to just sign Kruger/Spencer (If Balt lets him walk, and then it comes down to him wanting to come here. Also FAs are fools gold.) and trading Sheard for a second is "easy". Doubt that is the case honestly. Also HIGHLY doubt they trade him this early. Just don't see it. Also hate that draft you presented. Mangus Hunt proved at the senior bowl that he's a major project, his stock dropped IMO. Fuck a FB.

You're not living in the real world.

CLEconomically Speaking

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Feb 6, 2013 11:59am

Agreed, its not "easy" nor is it realistic.

But FB is a HUGE need. Sheard doesnt fit. And 48 million dollars says we can sign a LB

Commander of Awesome

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Feb 6, 2013 12:06pm

CLEconomically Speaking;1383502 wrote:Agreed, its not "easy" nor is it realistic.

But FB is a HUGE need. Sheard doesnt fit. And 48 million dollars says we can sign a LB

We have a lot of our own FA we need to take care of. Don't give a shit about FA either, they rarely work out. Fools Gold, how's Mario Williams working for for the Bills? LCB for us? Albert Haynesworth for the Redskins/Patriots?

CLEconomically Speaking

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Feb 6, 2013 12:07pm

Sorry, I got sick of the same old Jarvis Jones, Barkevius Mingo, Damontre Moore talk.

None of us are on the staff, so none of this matters anyway. At least be interesting.

Commander of Awesome

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Feb 6, 2013 12:08pm

CLEconomically Speaking;1383507 wrote:Sorry, I got sick of the same old Jarvis Jones, Barkevius Mingo, Damontre Moore talk.

None of us are on the staff, so none of this matters anyway. At least be interesting.

Alright, lets start talking about trading for Brady then!!!

CLEconomically Speaking

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Feb 6, 2013 12:14pm

Commander of Awesome;1383509 wrote:Alright, lets start talking about trading for Brady then!!!

Give it a shot.. 5 first rounders? /sarcasm

Crimson streak

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Feb 6, 2013 12:17pm

I would love to get Rambo in the 3rd.

Commander of Awesome

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Feb 6, 2013 12:26pm

I'd love to get Dion Jordan, followed by Werner and then Moore. That's my wish list for us at #6. If they're gone, I want Warmack. If all 4 are gone I want to trade back and pick a FS or Cooper (OG) from UNC.

like_that

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Feb 6, 2013 12:26pm

CLEconomically Speaking;1383507 wrote:Sorry, I got sick of the same old Jarvis Jones, Barkevius Mingo, Damontre Moore talk.

None of us are on the staff, so none of this matters anyway. At least be interesting.

COA, please reconsider this weeks winner of ipotw.

We aren't part of the staff so instead of talking about realistic picks, lets just come up with fantasy scenarios!!!

/cleconfaillogic

Commander of Awesome

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Feb 6, 2013 1:01pm

like_that;1383533 wrote:COA, please reconsider this weeks winner of ipotw.

We aren't part of the staff so instead of talking about realistic picks, lets just come up with fantasy scenarios!!!

/cleconfaillogic

That's true, def IPOTW candidate outside of a SoS post this week. Hell you can't even make these picks in fantasy football.

Reps.

Commander of Awesome

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Feb 6, 2013 1:05pm

Crimson streak;1383521 wrote:I would love to get Rambo in the 3rd.

Rambo: he is a pure FS, as he absolutely HATES to make contact. Complete 180 to Elam.

Pick6

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Feb 6, 2013 1:45pm

BR1986FB;1383346 wrote:I think Baltimore plays more of a hybrid version running both 4-3 & 3-4. I read something about Kruger not being the best for a 3-4 which wouldn't make sense if they are in that set more than the 4-3.

Well I guess its a good thing the Browns are planning on running some sort of a hybrid as well

CLEconomically Speaking;1383432 wrote:This guy has Jarvis Jones going 17th overall...
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/nfldraftscout-DaneBrugler
Even the guys at bleacher report arent that stupid.

Stupid is drafting a guy at 6 that has a deteriorating spine. HUGE risk

Commander of Awesome;1383506 wrote:We have a lot of our own FA we need to take care of. Don't give a shit about FA either, they rarely work out. Fools Gold, how's Mario Williams working for for the Bills? LCB for us? Albert Haynesworth for the Redskins/Patriots?

Congrats on using extreme examples to attempt to make your point.

Peyton Manning
Brandon Carr
Vincent Jackson
Cortland Finnegan
Tracy Porter
Curtis Lofton
Brandon Lloyd
Ben Jarvis Green Ellis
Geoff Schwartz
Mario Manningam
Pierre Garcon
Laron Landry
Dan Connor
Cedric Benson
Martellus Bennet

Were all signed to new teams in 2012 and were pretty damn important to their team

Crimson streak

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Feb 6, 2013 1:48pm

Commander of Awesome;1383570 wrote:Rambo: he is a pure FS, as he absolutely HATES to make contact. Complete 180 to Elam.

Exactly a ball hawking safety is what we need. We have our hard hitting safety in ward. They would compliment each other well

Pick6

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Feb 6, 2013 1:51pm

Crimson streak;1383612 wrote:Exactly a ball hawking safety is what we need. We have our hard hitting safety in ward. They would compliment each other well

Agreed, though I love Elam as well. Would be happy with either.

like_that

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Feb 6, 2013 1:52pm

Pick6;1383608 wrote:Well I guess its a good thing the Browns are planning on running some sort of a hybrid as well

Stupid is drafting a guy at 6 that has a deteriorating spine. HUGE risk

Congrats on using extreme examples to attempt to make your point.

Peyton Manning
Brandon Carr
Vincent Jackson
Cortland Finnegan
Tracy Porter
Curtis Lofton
Brandon Lloyd
Ben Jarvis Green Ellis
Geoff Schwartz
Mario Manningam
Pierre Garcon
Laron Landry
Dan Connor
Cedric Benson
Martellus Bennet

Were all signed to new teams in 2012 and were pretty damn important to their team

Did you even bother to check the stats of the guys you listed? Cedric Benson and Mario Manningham.... LMFAO

Pick6

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Feb 6, 2013 1:55pm

like_that;1383616 wrote:Did you even bother to check the stats of the guys you listed? Cedric Benson and Mario Manningham.... LMFAO

Benson led the Packers in YPG and Mannigham was the 3rd leading receiver even though he missed 1/4 of the season.