BR1986FB;1461117 wrote:And that's EXACTLY what they referred to it as "trolling of Cleveland fans by Josh Gordon"

It seems like we have a Braylon 2.0 on our hands with Gordon.

I just want to see the browns win and Gordon to beast. I really don't care if he "trolls" Cleveland fans with Lebron and the heat. He's an African American athlete, of course he's going to like Lebron.

Yeah, I don't care what a retard athlete says...as long as he produces. With that being said, these guys should know better than to tweet dumb shit

wes_mantooth;1461149 wrote:Yeah, I don't care what a retard athlete says...as long as he produces. With that being said, these guys should know better than to tweet dumb shit

It's the nature of the beast. These younger guys root for players, not teams, especially regarding the NBA.

I don't care if Gordon roots for Satan...you just don't rub that shit in a cities faces. As soon as LBJ bolts for another city, Gordon will have a new "favorite" team to bandwagon onto.

BR1986FB;1461151 wrote:It's the nature of the beast. These younger guys root for players, not teams, especially regarding the NBA.

I don't care if Gordon roots for Satan...you just don't rub that shit in a cities faces. As soon as LBJ bolts for another city, Gordon will have a new "favorite" team to bandwagon onto.

I guess my point is why do you give a fuck if Gordon roots for players in a different sport?

The Lebron thing is done with, over. I really doubt anyone really cares if a browns player roots for him. At least I don't.

How is he rubbing it in our faces? Serious question..

SportsAndLady;1461162 wrote:I guess my point is why do you give a fuck if Gordon roots for players in a different sport?

The Lebron thing is done with, over. I really doubt anyone really cares if a browns player roots for him. At least I don't.

How is he rubbing it in our faces? Serious question..

Did you SEE his tweets?

It's got nothing to do with WHO Gordon roots for. I don't care. I don't care that LBJ bandwagoned onto the Yankees & Cowboys. Keep it to yourself. You don't go out, especially after getting a 2 game suspension, and blow up your Twitter account TAUNTING the fans that buy tickets to help pay for YOUR salary.

Why is this so hard to understand. Do you LIKE people psychologically urinating/crapping in your face? Because that's essentially what he's doing....Cleveland fans hate LBJ (and really want nothing to do with him) + Josh Gordon LOVES LBJ and taunts Cleveland fans with it while playing in Cleveland = open wound (fans now dislike Gordon)

like_that;1461130 wrote:It seems like we have a Braylon 2.0 on our hands with Gordon.

I was thinking the same to myself earlier

BR1986FB;1461163 wrote:Did you SEE his tweets?

It's got nothing to do with WHO Gordon roots for. I don't care. I don't care that LBJ bandwagoned onto the Yankees & Cowboys. Keep it to yourself. You don't go out, especially after getting a 2 game suspension, and blow up your Twitter account TAUNTING the fans that buy tickets to help pay for YOUR salary.

Why is this so hard to understand. Do you LIKE people psychologically urinating/crapping in your face? Because that's essentially what he's doing....Cleveland fans hate LBJ (and really want nothing to do with him) + Josh Gordon LOVES LBJ and taunts Cleveland fans with it while playing in Cleveland = open wound (fans now dislike Gordon)

No I didn't see his tweets that's why I was asking what he did specifically that taunted the fans. Still waiting to hear/see what he said.

By the way..how is he psychologically urinating in my face? Lol just because he likes Lebron and tweets about it, I'm supposed to feel hurt?

Let me make this perfectly clear--I don't give a fuck about Lebron James anymore. He has no implications whatsoever on my sports life. The fact that he still gets to you makes me think you need to get over it.

SportsAndLady;1461172 wrote:No I didn't see his tweets that's why I was asking what he did specifically that taunted the fans. Still waiting to hear/see what he said.

By the way..how is he psychologically urinating in my face? Lol just because he likes Lebron and tweets about it, I'm supposed to feel hurt?

Let me make this perfectly clear--I don't give a fuck about Lebron James anymore. He has no implications whatsoever on my sports life. The fact that he still gets to you makes me think you need to get over it.

Just stop. You're obviously missing the point.

Pick6;1461173 wrote:Just stop. You're obviously missing the point.

Exactly

What point am I missing? That you guys get offended that our city's football players cheer for a basketball player that used to play for the cavs?

I'm still waiting on what he actually said. My tune might change depending on what he actually said that psychologically shit on my face.

SportsAndLady;1461181 wrote:What point am I missing? That you guys get offended that our city's football players cheer for a basketball player that used to play for the cavs?

I'm still waiting on what he actually said. My tune might change depending on what he actually said that psychologically shit on my face.

I think you should read his tweets along with Taylor's (taylor retweeted a troll tweet by "the fake art modell" for fucks sake) before questioning why people are getting offended.

Just put it this way, if turdo were to come on this thread right now, and spew his typical troll bullshit, you would pretty much tell him to go fuck himself. Gordon/Taylor's tweets= turdo.

I'm sure my opinion would change if I actually saw them. I don't really do twitter so I won't be able to look right now. All I asked was for someone to post what he said lol

I still stand by saying I don't really care what our players say or do or who they root for. Just produce.

SportsAndLady;1461187 wrote:I'm sure my opinion would change if I actually saw them. I don't really do twitter so I won't be able to look right now. All I asked was for someone to post what he said lol

I still stand by saying I don't really care what our players say or do or who they root for. Just produce.

For the most part, I don't care either. Black athletes are just bandwagon fans period, but they should know better than trolling a very prideful fan base.

like_that;1461190 wrote:but they should know better than trolling a very prideful fan base.

This is all I'm saying. Root for who you like but the trolling is unnecessary.

BR1986FB;1461192 wrote:This is all I'm saying. Root for who you like but the trolling is unnecessary.

Especially toward a fanbase that shows love to them despite providing piss poor results. Even though i got the jersey from that chinese site, I am not sure if I am happy anymore that I bought a Phil Taylor jersey.

like_that;1461194 wrote:Especially toward a fanbase that shows love to them despite providing piss poor results. Even though i got the jersey from that chinese site, I am not sure if I am happy anymore that I bought a Phil Taylor jersey.

Only jersey I'd invest in amongst this current cast of clowns would be Joe Thomas. Otherwise it's old school Steve Everitt, Clay Matthews, etc. At least when they are retired they can't be a bust, get traded/leave in FA or have a career ending injury.

BR1986FB;1461200 wrote:Only jersey I'd invest in amongst this current cast of clowns would be Joe Thomas. Otherwise it's old school Steve Everitt, Clay Matthews, etc. At least when they are retired they can't be a bust, get traded/leave in FA or have a career ending injury.

I already have a JT jersey lol. The Taylor jersey was only 20 bucks, and it is pretty much authentic. So, if he turns into a bitch and leaves, I won't be as pissed departing with that jersey as say my authentic Tim Couch jersey my mother bought for me smh.

like_that;1461214 wrote:I already have a JT jersey lol. The Taylor jersey was only 20 bucks, and it is pretty much authentic. So, if he turns into a bitch and leaves, I won't be as pissed departing with that jersey as say my authentic Tim Couch jersey my mother bought for me smh.

Tell me about it. Learned my lesson with my authentic Kamerion Wimpley jersey.

I still rock my classic throw back Andra Davis jersey. The OG one with his full name on it. I only wish I had it in Brown as well.

SportsAndLady;1461162 wrote:I guess my point is why do you give a **** if Gordon roots for players in a different sport?

The Lebron thing is done with, over. I really doubt anyone really cares if a browns player roots for him. At least I don't.

How is he rubbing it in our faces? Serious question..

Because Cleveland fans are a bunch of fickle idiots. He's not "trolling" our fanbase, he's tweeting about doing what he wants to be doing.

lhslep134;1461222 wrote:Because Cleveland fans are a bunch of fickle idiots. He's not "trolling" our fanbase, he's tweeting about doing what he wants to be doing.

Retweeting "the fake art modell" isn't ill advised? GTFO.

I's have to agree that it wasn't the smartest thing for Gordon to do. As a matter of fact, it was pretty stupid. You have to realize the impact social media has. Like others have said. Don't care who you root for. But don't rub it in my face when it's a player that shit on the city you play in and whose fans support you.

Switching gears on gordon, sick about talking about dumb fucks.

http://blogs.clevelandbrowns.com/2013/06/19/top-5-underrated-browns-of-all-time/

[h=2] Top 5 underrated Browns of all-time [/h] Posted by Vic Carucci on June 19, 2013 – 10:35 pm

By Vic Carucci, Senior Editor
The editors at NFL.com asked me to assist them in putting together a list of the top five underrated Browns of all-time.
I weighed a number of factors in compiling the list, but mainly focused how each player was perceived nationally. My first area of focus was on anyone who has been unjustly ignored by the Pro Football Hall of Fame. After that, I looked at how the player was recognized (if at all) outside of the Cleveland.
I consulted with long-time Browns observers in the media and within the fan base.
Here’s the list, with an explanation for each:
Clay Matthews, Jr., LB (1978-93)
Browns followers widely consider Matthews the biggest of the team’s snubs for the Pro Football Hall of Fame, and it’s hard to argue. Given the high-attrition associated with his position, his 19-year NFL career (16 with the Browns, three with Atlanta) is nothing short of incredible. It’s even more impressive given his relatively small frame for his position (6-foot-2 and 245 pounds). Matthews was highly versatile and played every linebacker spot, registering 1,430 tackles, 62 sacks, 14 interceptions, and 13 fumble recoveries with the Browns. To some, he’s better known as the father of Packers linebacker Clay Matthews III and brother to Hall-of-Fame offensive lineman Bruce Matthews.
Gary Collins, WR (1962-71)
After Matthews, Collins is generally viewed as the Browns’ second-biggest Hall-of-Fame snub. He was among the more versatile players in team history. Besides being a top-flight receiver, Collins also was a highly accomplished punter. He caught 331 career passes for 5,299 yards and 70 touchdowns, and punted 336 times for 13,764 yards. Surprisingly, Collins was selected to the Pro Bowl only twice in his 10 seasons with the Browns. The only real blemish on his career was the fact he never had a 1,000-yard receiving season, coming close only once with 946 yards in 1966.
Frank Minnifield, CB (1984-92)
Minnifield was an exceptionally talented player during his nine NFL seasons (all with the Browns). However, he wasn’t as highly regarded outside of Cleveland as he should have been largely because most of what he accomplished came while being paired with Hanford Dixon as one of the NFL’s top cornerback tandems. At 5-9, Minnifield lacked ideal height for the position. But it didn’t stop him from consistently shutting down opposing receivers. He also finished his career with only 20 interceptions.
Bill Nelsen, QB (1968-72)
Acquired in a trade with the Steelers, Nelsen spent three games as a backup to Frank Ryan before leading the Browns to the playoffs by winning nine of 11 starts. Nelsen would lead the Browns to the postseason two more times, but never seemed to receive a whole lot of recognition for being one of the franchise’s more successful quarterbacks. That was largely due to the fact he was plagued by slumps that prompted temporary benchings and knee injuries that would require five surgeries and ultimately force him into retirement.
Greg Pruitt, RB (1973-81)
When a franchise has two running backs in the Pro Football Hall of Fame (Jim Brown and Leroy Kelly), it’s easy to overlook others who also played the position exceptionally well … just not well enough to end up in Canton. Pruitt is one of those players. His 5,496 yards put him fourth in Browns history, behind Brown and Kelly. Pruitt also ranks or is tied for third in multiple rushing categories, including most games with 100 or more rushing yards (17). But he was more than a highly effective ball-carrier. Pruitt also was remarkably versatile, ranking third on the Browns with 323 receptions and first in average yards on kickoff and punt returns.
Sean Neumann, a guest contributor to NFL.com, came up with the following top five list of the overrated Browns of all-time: running back Peyton Hillis, wide receiver Braylon Edwards, tight end Kellen Winslow, Jr., quarterback Brian Sipe, and running back Charles White.
>>Carucci’s Call is presented by Revol Wireless. Come Save With Us.

Thoughts on the list?

Commander of Awesome;1461273 wrote:Switching gears on gordon, sick about talking about dumb ****s.

http://blogs.clevelandbrowns.com/2013/06/19/top-5-underrated-browns-of-all-time/

Top 5 underrated Browns of all-time

Posted by Vic Carucci on June 19, 2013 – 10:35 pm

By Vic Carucci, Senior Editor
The editors at NFL.com asked me to assist them in putting together a list of the top five underrated Browns of all-time.
I weighed a number of factors in compiling the list, but mainly focused how each player was perceived nationally. My first area of focus was on anyone who has been unjustly ignored by the Pro Football Hall of Fame. After that, I looked at how the player was recognized (if at all) outside of the Cleveland.
I consulted with long-time Browns observers in the media and within the fan base.
Here’s the list, with an explanation for each:
Clay Matthews, Jr., LB (1978-93)
Browns followers widely consider Matthews the biggest of the team’s snubs for the Pro Football Hall of Fame, and it’s hard to argue. Given the high-attrition associated with his position, his 19-year NFL career (16 with the Browns, three with Atlanta) is nothing short of incredible. It’s even more impressive given his relatively small frame for his position (6-foot-2 and 245 pounds). Matthews was highly versatile and played every linebacker spot, registering 1,430 tackles, 62 sacks, 14 interceptions, and 13 fumble recoveries with the Browns. To some, he’s better known as the father of Packers linebacker Clay Matthews III and brother to Hall-of-Fame offensive lineman Bruce Matthews.
Gary Collins, WR (1962-71)
After Matthews, Collins is generally viewed as the Browns’ second-biggest Hall-of-Fame snub. He was among the more versatile players in team history. Besides being a top-flight receiver, Collins also was a highly accomplished punter. He caught 331 career passes for 5,299 yards and 70 touchdowns, and punted 336 times for 13,764 yards. Surprisingly, Collins was selected to the Pro Bowl only twice in his 10 seasons with the Browns. The only real blemish on his career was the fact he never had a 1,000-yard receiving season, coming close only once with 946 yards in 1966.
Frank Minnifield, CB (1984-92)
Minnifield was an exceptionally talented player during his nine NFL seasons (all with the Browns). However, he wasn’t as highly regarded outside of Cleveland as he should have been largely because most of what he accomplished came while being paired with Hanford Dixon as one of the NFL’s top cornerback tandems. At 5-9, Minnifield lacked ideal height for the position. But it didn’t stop him from consistently shutting down opposing receivers. He also finished his career with only 20 interceptions.
Bill Nelsen, QB (1968-72)
Acquired in a trade with the Steelers, Nelsen spent three games as a backup to Frank Ryan before leading the Browns to the playoffs by winning nine of 11 starts. Nelsen would lead the Browns to the postseason two more times, but never seemed to receive a whole lot of recognition for being one of the franchise’s more successful quarterbacks. That was largely due to the fact he was plagued by slumps that prompted temporary benchings and knee injuries that would require five surgeries and ultimately force him into retirement.
Greg Pruitt, RB (1973-81)
When a franchise has two running backs in the Pro Football Hall of Fame (Jim Brown and Leroy Kelly), it’s easy to overlook others who also played the position exceptionally well … just not well enough to end up in Canton. Pruitt is one of those players. His 5,496 yards put him fourth in Browns history, behind Brown and Kelly. Pruitt also ranks or is tied for third in multiple rushing categories, including most games with 100 or more rushing yards (17). But he was more than a highly effective ball-carrier. Pruitt also was remarkably versatile, ranking third on the Browns with 323 receptions and first in average yards on kickoff and punt returns.
Sean Neumann, a guest contributor to NFL.com, came up with the following top five list of the overrated Browns of all-time: running back Peyton Hillis, wide receiver Braylon Edwards, tight end Kellen Winslow, Jr., quarterback Brian Sipe, and running back Charles White.
>>Carucci’s Call is presented by Revol Wireless. Come Save With Us.

Thoughts on the list?

Another Brown who I feel was underrated was Jerry Sherk. He was a great defensive tackle on mostly bad Browns teams.