wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
Dec 15, 2012 11:16pm
gut;1344145 wrote:No, just do a better job of controlling access. It's actually not complicated when you think about it.
Yeah because shooting out a window or glass door is completely not an option for a psychopath.
reclegend22
Posts: 8,772
Dec 15, 2012 11:44pm
wildcats20;1344163 wrote:Yeah because shooting out a window or glass door is completely not an option for a psychopath.
Exactly. If a mental patient dressed as a G.I. Joe and brandishing a Winchester Liberator shows up at an elementary school, it's lights out. As soon as he shoots out a window to gain access, piles of people are dying.
bases_loaded
Posts: 6,912
Dec 15, 2012 11:53pm
But if he knows there is an armed person working there, hes not going in. We never hear about anyone walking into a police station and shooting it up. Its all about body count for these lunatics. Eliminate the easy target.
Mulva
Posts: 13,650
Dec 16, 2012 12:18am
You might (doubtful, but not impossible) be able to eliminate these things from schools, but not eliminate them entirely. Even if schools were completely locked down it would just change the venue for a determined party. Any mall, movie theater, park, rec center, soccer field, etc. You can't lock down everywhere at all times.bases_loaded;1344144 wrote:How much would an armed police officer cost each school a year? Wanna eliminate these things, provide a threat to the lunatic.
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gut
Posts: 15,058
Dec 16, 2012 12:20am
Depends on what the access point is. either way it reduces casualties as he has to go around, and then thruwildcats20;1344163 wrote:Yeah because shooting out a window or glass door is completely not an option for a psychopath.
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isadore
Posts: 7,762
Dec 16, 2012 12:26am
Gunman Shoots Four Detroit Police Officers Inside Precinctbases_loaded;1344179 wrote:But if he knows there is an armed person working there, hes not going in. We never hear about anyone walking into a police station and shooting it up. Its all about body count for these lunatics. Eliminate the easy target.
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/gunman-shoots-four-detroit-police-officers-inside-precinct/
reclegend22
Posts: 8,772
Dec 16, 2012 12:29am
If the psychopath who is hell bent on shooting up a school is donning a bulletproof vest and wielding an assault rifle, he's going to walk into the school and blow that officer and his pistol out of the water.bases_loaded;1344179 wrote:But if he knows there is an armed person working there, hes not going in. We never hear about anyone walking into a police station and shooting it up. Its all about body count for these lunatics. Eliminate the easy target.
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stlouiedipalma
Posts: 1,797
Dec 16, 2012 1:06am
Although I was always shocked and concerned by the previous mass shootings in our country, I cannot recall being so emotionally distressed as I am with this one. I'm sure it's because of the children being murdered, but I'm finding that I cannot watch coverage of this without tears.
wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
Dec 16, 2012 1:26am
stlouiedipalma;1344211 wrote:Although I was always shocked and concerned by the previous mass shootings in our country, I cannot recall being so emotionally distressed as I am with this one. I'm sure it's because of the children being murdered, but I'm finding that I cannot watch coverage of this without tears.
Same here '
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Sonofanump
Dec 16, 2012 1:35am
An easy conclusion to make is that this is the weakest human being ever, targeting women and 6 year olds. Condoning murder is not my idea of </SPAN>Machiavellian</SPAN></SPAN> retribution, but he is correct in this circumstance, hope a hell exist for him. </SPAN>
*preface that I am a father of a seven year old.</SPAN>
*preface that I am a father of a seven year old.</SPAN>
se-alum
Posts: 13,948
Dec 16, 2012 2:44am
This is the kind of ridiculousness that all these anti-gun nuts believe. This person was ready to die, he wanted to kill people inside the school. You can't really believe that one armed person inside this school would've stopped this rampage?!?bases_loaded;1344179 wrote:But if he knows there is an armed person working there, hes not going in. We never hear about anyone walking into a police station and shooting it up. Its all about body count for these lunatics. Eliminate the easy target.
se-alum
Posts: 13,948
Dec 16, 2012 2:49am
I agree. My first thoughts after I learned about the shooting were my nieces and nephew that are in that same age group. All I could think of was, "what if it was them not coming home tonight". I can't possibly fathom, knowing how hurt I was by this, how the people of Newtown were/are able to cope with this. Earlier one of the parents of a slain child had a press conference, and I had to turn off the TV, just couldn't take anymore of it.stlouiedipalma;1344211 wrote:Although I was always shocked and concerned by the previous mass shootings in our country, I cannot recall being so emotionally distressed as I am with this one. I'm sure it's because of the children being murdered, but I'm finding that I cannot watch coverage of this without tears.
GoChiefs
Posts: 16,754
Dec 16, 2012 3:39am
Ironman92;1344148 wrote:What were they trying to protest in your area?
Military funeral.
GoChiefs
Posts: 16,754
Dec 16, 2012 3:42am
Mulva;1344129 wrote:Yeah that seems like an appropriate response.
I thought so too.
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gut
Posts: 15,058
Dec 16, 2012 4:03am
It would be pretty damn tough to shoot out a window, and then crawl thru it, and then lay down firewildcats20;1344163 wrote:Yeah because shooting out a window or glass door is completely not an option for a psychopath.
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WebFire
Posts: 14,779
Dec 16, 2012 9:58am
Yep, and if there was CHL holder in the Colorado theater they would have got him, gosh darn it. :rolleyes:
Look, I am a believer of concealed carry. I have a license myself. But people severely overestimate what they might do in these types of situations. I don't think teachers or admins packing heat is the way to go.
Look, I am a believer of concealed carry. I have a license myself. But people severely overestimate what they might do in these types of situations. I don't think teachers or admins packing heat is the way to go.
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MontyBrunswick
Dec 16, 2012 10:12am
The dude wanted to go out and he wanted to bring attention on himself.
Take away his guns and he'd just find something else to use.
It blows my mind how ignorant people are
Take away his guns and he'd just find something else to use.
It blows my mind how ignorant people are
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isadore
Posts: 7,762
Dec 16, 2012 11:23am
but probably not as successfully as he did with thisdlazz;1344265 wrote:The dude wanted to go out and he wanted to bring attention on himself.
Take away his guns and he'd just find something else to use.
It blows my mind how ignorant people are
for putting 3 to 11 bullets in each small child.
Crimson streak
Posts: 9,002
Dec 16, 2012 11:29am
isadore;1344291 wrote:but probably not as successfully as he did with this
He would still of found a way to get the guns he used. It's not like every gun will just magically disappear. There was absolutely no stopping this.
LJ
Posts: 16,351
Dec 16, 2012 12:16pm
A CHL holder drew down on the Clackmas mall shooter, when the shooter saw the CHL holder, he shot himself. The CHL holder didn't shoot because there were too many people behind the shooter to risk it.WebFire;1344261 wrote:Yep, and if there was CHL holder in the Colorado theater they would have got him, gosh darn it. :rolleyes:
Look, I am a believer of concealed carry. I have a license myself. But people severely overestimate what they might do in these types of situations. I don't think teachers or admins packing heat is the way to go.
LJ
Posts: 16,351
Dec 16, 2012 12:17pm
AR15's are illegal in CT. It's felony possession to have one.Crimson streak;1344292 wrote:He would still of found a way to get the guns he used. It's not like every gun will just magically disappear. There was absolutely no stopping this.
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friendfromlowry
Posts: 6,239
Dec 16, 2012 12:22pm
I honestly haven't watched much of it all for this reason.stlouiedipalma;1344211 wrote:Although I was always shocked and concerned by the previous mass shootings in our country, I cannot recall being so emotionally distressed as I am with this one. I'm sure it's because of the children being murdered, but I'm finding that I cannot watch coverage of this without tears.
Tigerfan00
Posts: 3,427
Dec 16, 2012 12:26pm
Is it just me or is gut the dumbest poster on this site?gut;1344231 wrote:It would be pretty damn tough to shoot out a window, and then crawl thru it, and then lay down fire
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friendfromlowry
Posts: 6,239
Dec 16, 2012 12:30pm
Someone explain this to me, and I'm not asking rhetorically, because I really don't know the reasoning behind it. Some redneck on my newsfeed liked some other redneck's status (it actually had like 68K likes so perhaps someone else has seen it) which basically said that by establishing stricter gun laws, we would be making it actually easier to get them. He went on to cite drugs as an example. Since I'm not a retard, I didn't engage in a Facebook argument. But I can't remember a recent time where it was legal to buy heroin, cocaine, etc. so I'm not sure how legally vs illegally buying drugs makes sense in this case.
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isadore
Posts: 7,762
Dec 16, 2012 12:50pm
"Adam Lanza took three weapons with him to the school – two pistols, a Glock and a Sig Sauer, and a Bushmaster .223-caliber semi-automatic assault-style rifle – all of which were registered to Nancy Lanza." illegal?LJ;1344314 wrote:AR15's are illegal in CT. It's felony possession to have one.
and mom
"avid gun enthusiast who liked to take her sons to the shooting range to practice their marksmanship, a friend tells NBC News." the family that shots together
http://openchannel.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/12/15/15935397-mom-of-suspected-school-shooter-first-to-die-was-avid-gun-enthusiast-friend-says?lite
hopefully our first African American President will be able to do something about these gun atrocities in his second term despite the opposition of gun nuts and racists.