Was listening to Ryan & Kirwan on the way home and they had a Bills fan call in regarding Fitzpatrick and their GM's (Buddy Nix) comment regarding "we'll be looking for a franchise QB this offseason." Kirwan, who is a former NFL coach/scout/personnel guy said "the problem is, are there any franchise QB's in this draft?" He also said he didn't think any of this years' QB crop would be ready to play from day 1 like Luck or RGIII. He also said the last few years were "rare with QB's that were ready to play" and that most usually need to sit & learn. Soooo...let's take a QB with our top 5 pick !!! :rolleyes:

BR1986FB;1326139 wrote:Was listening to Ryan & Kirwan on the way home and they had a Bills fan call in regarding Fitzpatrick and their GM's (Buddy Nix) comment regarding "we'll be looking for a franchise QB this offseason." Kirwan, who is a former NFL coach/scout/personnel guy said "the problem is, are there any franchise QB's in this draft?" He also said he didn't think any of this years' QB crop would be ready to play from day 1 like Luck or RGIII. Soooo...let's take a QB with out top 5 pick !!! :rolleyes:

Throw the barn at San Francisco for Kaepernick. Dude is the real deal.

sleeper;1326143 wrote:Throw the barn at San Francisco for Kaepernick. Dude is the real deal.

Don't think he's going anywhere, anytime soon. Now Alex Smith (who I wouldn't want) might be a different story.

And let's be honest here, the Browns are a long ways away from being a contender in this league. I mean I look at a team like San Francisco and they are STACKED. Good defense. Good offense. It's going to take many many lucky late draft picks to get even on a 1/3 of their level.

San Fran wins the super bowl this year. Book it.

BR1986FB;1326144 wrote:Don't think he's going anywhere, anytime soon. Now Alex Smith (who I wouldn't want) might be a different story.

No thanks on Smith.

sleeper;1326145 wrote:And let's be honest here, the Browns are a long ways away from being a contender in this league. I mean I look at a team like San Francisco and they are STACKED. Good defense. Good offense. It's going to take many many lucky late draft picks to get even on a 1/3 of their level.

San Fran wins the super bowl this year. Book it.

Hopefully the new regime won't be stuck on building strictly through the draft, and will actually pursue free agents.

se-alum;1326148 wrote:Hopefully the new regime won't be stuck on building strictly through the draft, and will actually pursue free agents.

This where Heckert really screwed the pooch. He could've accelerated this teams ability to "battle" :rolleyes: by adding a few free agents in key areas. Not "break the bank" Mario Williams types but a solid linebacker, corner and a guard would've gone a long way this season. I would've added WR as a need but when guys like Garcon are breaking the bank, I'm skeptical they would've had a legit shot at one of the better WR's.

But after hearing what I've heard, it sounds like Lerner wasn't looking to spend and was just looking for this front office to position this team for a sale (i.e. not adding free agents).

SportsAndLady;1326108 wrote: It'd be at most 3 drafts taking a first round QB.

Who are you, Matt Millen? First round QB's in back-to-back-to-back drafts? And you're laughing your ass off at MY earlier comment? :laugh:

royal_k;1326114 wrote:So you draft a QB in the first round for 3 strait years (4 counting last draft) and neglect the rest of the team....got ya

Im saying that I would take a QB with my first pick in 13. If they turn into another brady quinn, Weeden id take another one in 14. And so on until we get a good QB. Its not neglecting the rest of the team, its using your best pick on the most important position. There are other picks for the other positions. Lol

lhslep134;1326133 wrote:Hey, come on now, you and I have been in this thing since the beginning.

I don't understand what this means?

BR1986FB;1326153 wrote:Who are you, Matt Millen? First round QB's in back-to-back-to-back drafts? And you're laughing your ass off at MY earlier comment? :laugh:

Im taking one this draft only considering they'll find a good QB in the top 5. But yes then again of this one flops. Beats the alternative of doing what we've always done and feeding the fan base bullshit to suck on.

And the only two things ill be laughing my ass off at are weedens name on social security and your weird creepy obsession with cats. Lol

Ps isn't it past your bedtime br?

SportsAndLady;1326164 wrote:Ps isn't it past your bedtime br?

Day off tomorrow but some of us who can buy, sell, and store your ass in my basement as "help" have real jobs. By the way, got your ass kicked lately at OU, little boy?

SportsAndLady;1326162 wrote:Im taking one this draft only considering they'll find a good QB in the top 5. But yes then again of this one flops. Beats the alternative of doing what we've always done and feeding the fan base bullshit to suck on.

And the only two things ill be laughing my ass off at are weedens name on social security and your weird creepy obsession with cats. Lol

An I'm laughing my ass off at your lack of football knowledge. First round QB's in THREE consecutive drafts? That's the most absurd shit I've ever read. Who told you that was a good idea? Will, Sam or Mike?

This is why people shake their head at your dumb ass and the shit you say. Then you get backed into a corner and your only response is taking cheapshots. This is why nobody takes the stupid shit you post on here seriously. Talk like an intelligent adult, instead of the cheapshots, and people might take you seriously.

My apologies if the Matt Millen comment offended you but I think 90%+ of the people on here would agree that is one of the dumbest things you've ever posted. You don't keep drafting QB's over & over with your first round pick. GM's get fired for that shit real quick.

BR1986FB;1326196 wrote:An I'm laughing my ass off at your lack of football knowledge. First round QB's in THREE consecutive drafts? That's the most absurd **** I've ever read. Who told you that was a good idea? Will, Sam or Mike?

Exact this is probably the dumbest shit I have ever read in my life. Forget about that stud pass rusher we need on defense lets take a qb top 5 even though there's no good qb's in this draft. And if that doesn't work lets do it again in 2014 Derp Derp Derp

BR1986FB;1326194 wrote:Day off tomorrow

Lol it's like in middle school where you'd have a day off so you could stay up late. Seriously, I wake up like 30 min later than you do, grow a fucking pair.

And I don't have a real job? Riiiiight

Crimson streak;1326201 wrote:Exact this is probably the dumbest shit I have ever read in my life. Forget about that stud pass rusher we need on defense lets take a qb top 5 even though there's no good qb's in this draft. And if that doesn't work lets do it again in 2014 Derp Derp Derp

In my defense, I said to wait til combine time to make the determination there are no good QBs in this draft.

I just don't think having a stud pash rusher is ever going to bring us to a championship level without a stud QB.

SportsAndLady;1326214 wrote:Lol it's like in middle school where you'd have a day off so you could stay up late. Seriously, I wake up like 30 min later than you do, grow a fucking pair.

And I don't have a real job? Riiiiight

LOL...still deflecting since you got called out for that dumb ass post.

BR1986FB;1326196 wrote:An I'm laughing my ass off at your lack of football knowledge. First round QB's in THREE consecutive drafts? That's the most absurd shit I've ever read. Who told you that was a good idea? Will, Sam or Mike?

Yeah real knee slapper there...almost as funny as your HILARIOUS pictures in the funny pictures thread.../sarcasm

(seriously do us all a favor catman, and stop posting in that thread, you ruin it)

BR1986FB;1326196 wrote:This is why people shake their head at your dumb ass and the shit you say. Then you get backed into a corner and your only response is taking cheapshots. This is why nobody takes the stupid shit you post on here seriously. Talk like an intelligent adult, instead of the cheapshots, and people might take you seriously.

No one shakes their heads at the things I say except for the losers who think the ultimate loser-Weeden-will ever do anything in the NFL other than take us to a solid 8-8 season. Where are you getting this "no one takes you seriously?" Seriously, I'm curious. I have a lot of good, intelligent discussion on here. Sorry I don't get on your weird diet threads and talk about the rice cakes or whatever the fuck you weirdo's talk about.

BR1986FB;1326196 wrote:My apologies if the Matt Millen comment offended you but I think 90%+ of the people on here would agree that is one of the dumbest things you've ever posted. You don't keep drafting QB's over & over with your first round pick. GM's get fired for that shit real quick.

My plan is not "draft 3 QBs in the first round of the next 3 drafts" it's "Weeden isn't our future, so draft a QB in this draft with your top 5 pick. If he sucks, like a lot of you think he will, take one in '14." So enough with the misquotes and overexaggerations.

BR1986FB;1326194 wrote:Day off tomorrow but some of us who can buy, sell, and store your ass in my basement as "help" have real jobs. By the way, got your ass kicked lately at OU, little boy?

It's too bad the Browns aren't playing tomorrow, maybe you could actually go to a game. LOL

No misquote or exaggeration. You said keep drafting QB's every year with your first rounder until you find one. First it was something about 10 years then you scaled it back to 3.

And I'm laughing at your "no one shakes their heads at the things you say" comment. People are laughing at your posts from the last 2 pages about your absurd draft a QB every year bullshit.

As expected, resorting to cheapshots AGAIN since your content is weak. But that's to be expected when you really have nothing but absurdity.

And as far as your comment about the "funny pictures" thread....I get more than my share of reps for pics I post, but thanks.

I hope that one day...we are good, so everyone is happy and this middle school bickering will stop. kumbaya mother fuckers

sleeper;1326224 wrote:It's too bad the Browns aren't playing tomorrow, maybe you could actually go to a game. LOL

Still no interest.

BR1986FB;1326226 wrote:No misquote or exaggeration. You said keep drafting QB's every year with your first rounder until you find one. First it was something about 10 years then you scaled it back to 3.

And I'm laughing at your "no one shakes their heads at the things you say" comment. People are laughing at your posts from the last 2 pages about your absurd draft a QB every year bullshit.

As expected, resorting to cheapshots AGAIN since your content is weak. But that's to be expected when you really have nothing but absurdity.

I said if it takes 3, 10 years, then so be it. We need a fucking QB. We will not win anything (we are not the 49ers..we aren't even fucking close) with defense and a running game.

Not to mention, Weeden isn't good. So, we're not even going to be "playoff" good. We'll literally be 6-10 - 8-8 over the next 5 years until Weeden can start taking from his IRA without being taxed.

wes_mantooth;1326227 wrote:I hope that one day...we are good, so everyone is happy and this middle school bickering will stop. kumbaya mother fuckers

It'll come soon...soon as we get a QB that can go out there and avoid the American flag.

SportsAndLady;1326158 wrote:Im saying that I would take a QB with my first pick in 13. If they turn into another brady quinn, Weeden id take another one in 14. And so on until we get a good QB. Its not neglecting the rest of the team, its using your best pick on the most important position. There are other picks for the other positions. Lol

There are NO qbs WORTH a TOP FIVE PICK. FUCK.

Who would you take Barkley or Smith with a top pick?