SportsAndLady;1325387 wrote:I will bet my life a QB in next year's draft will be better than Weeden.

Weeden isn't good lol idk why I keep hearing this "there's no QB better than Weeden"

Well of course there will probably be a QB that turns out better than Weeden. But do you know who it will be? Maybe we should just spend our entire draft on QBs. One is bound to be good lol.

Pick6;1325395 wrote:I said they are fine when Haden is healthy. Everybody "bumping up" is what causes problems. Reading comprehension is your friend.

They are very average to below average with Haden in. We really need a cover safety that way we can bump ward up to help stop the run which he's good at.

Collin kapernick from San Fran is looking legit right now lol. Harbough just does his thing with any qb, its crazy.

shook_17;1325419 wrote:Collin kapernick from San Fran is looking legit right now lol. Harbough just does his thing with any qb, its crazy.

He's so fun to watch. I've been watching him all year when he gets in.

Crimson streak;1325403 wrote:I bet there won't be. Honestly name 1 qb that is worthy of a top 5 pick this draft. All these qb's have major major flaws. And keep drafting a qb top 5 year after year is no way to build a team at all.

Agree to disagree. Name a draft where a top QB didn't pan out

SportsAndLady;1325433 wrote:He's so fun to watch. I've been watching him all year when he gets in.

This is my first time this year, he is making the Bears D look stupid silly.

SportsAndLady;1325434 wrote:Agree to disagree. Name a draft where a top QB didn't pan out

Define "top."

Crimson streak;1325407 wrote:They are very average to below average with Haden in. We really need a cover safety that way we can bump ward up to help stop the run which he's good at.

which is what I said.

like_that;1325444 wrote:Define "top."

Top 12?

SportsAndLady;1325434 wrote:Agree to disagree. Name a draft where a top QB didn't pan out

tons of them.

SportsAndLady;1325434 wrote:Agree to disagree. Name a draft where a top QB didn't pan out

1996,1997,2000,2002,2003,2006,2007 and you could even say 1999, and 2010

Pick6;1325446 wrote:which is what I said.

Still need another corner. Brown isn't getting any younger

Pick6;1325446 wrote:which is what I said.

Originally Posted by Crimson streak
They are very average to below average with Haden in. We really need a cover safety that way we can bump ward up to help stop the run which he's good at.


Thats the problem. There isn't a Safety thats top 10 worthy either. The Browns would have to trade down, grab a CB in free agency then your safety with a trade down while recouping our 2nd round pick and then some.

I'm waiting for someone to delusionally suggest we hire Chip Kelly and trade for Kaepernick to run the spread.

SportsAndLady;1325448 wrote:Top 12?

2007. Brady Quinn and Jamarcus Russell were the 2 QBs selected in the first round. LOL.

Mulva;1325455 wrote:I'm waiting for someone to delusionally suggest we hire Chip Kelly and trade for Kaepernick to run the spread.

I think the Browns hire Chip Kelly, bring in Kaepernick, trade Richardson for another first round pick, draft black mamba and draft Barner to replace Richardson. Browns go on to win the division 14-2.

like_that;1325456 wrote:2007. Brady Quinn and Jamarcus Russell were the 2 QBs selected in the first round. LOL.

It's a rarity more than it is common.

Rotinaj;1325325 wrote:Redskins will EASILY be better than the Browns over the next 3 years. Not sure how you can possibly say otherwise. Unless RG3 suffers a horrible injury.

I like the Browns defense much better. Skins will try to plug in new pieces like they always do with Snyder and continue to be mediocre. Browns have a chance to improve on what they are, I dont think the Skins do...and they arent THAT far ahead of Cleveland as it is.

And RG3 getting injured would absolutely matter. But thats a giant risk you take when you have him as the QB

Rotinaj;1325350 wrote:Serious question here. Who's the last successful nfl QB who had a .500 final year in college? I admit I haven't watched much of Geno but he seems to have disappeared in some big games.

Just a random guess at the first name that popped up into my head. But what were Eli, Rivers and Cutler in their last year? What was Tom Brady? I honestly have no clue, but I know the first 3 play for non-powers in power 6 conferences, so they mightve been mediocre record wise.

SportsAndLady;1325434 wrote:Agree to disagree. Name a draft where a top QB didn't pan out

Way to many to name. But most notably (at least off the top of my head), 2007 with Quinn and Russell.

like_that;1325456 wrote:2007. Brady Quinn and Jamarcus Russell were the 2 QBs selected in the first round. LOL.

Beat me to it.

Let's trade for Colin Kapernick. Dude is a beast.

So 6 out of the last 12 years isn't the common. It's 50/50 that's not good odds at all

Crimson streak;1325471 wrote:So 6 out of the last 12 years isn't the common. It's 50/50 that's not good odds at all

Hasn't happened in 5 years though..when technology, social media, scouting, etc. has all skyrocketed. We'll find a good QB in the top 5.

SportsAndLady;1325474 wrote:Hasn't happened in 5 years though..when technology, social media, scouting, etc. has all skyrocketed. We'll find a good QB in the top 5.

2010? Bradford hasn't done shit in the nfl yet

You could even say 2011 also even though its too early to tell

Laley23;1325469 wrote:I like the Browns defense much better. Skins will try to plug in new pieces like they always do with Snyder and continue to be mediocre. Browns have a chance to improve on what they are, I dont think the Skins do...and they arent THAT far ahead of Cleveland as it is.

And RG3 getting injured would absolutely matter. But thats a giant risk you take when you have him as the QB

I assume we will have to wait for Auoita to "finish" his "job" with RG3 tonight, so we can see his fail response.

Crimson streak;1325475 wrote:2010? Bradford hasn't done shit in the nfl yet

Ok well that's pretty tough considering there was 2 QBs taken in the first 47 picks lol

Bradford isn't a stud, but he's still better than Weeden (and younger).