BoatShoes;1397668 wrote:It is true that the spending cuts will harm the economy. He is generally correct. If some of things don't happen that he's telling the public they will it will be because of ignorance of what exactly will occur, not deceit.

It's technically correct. If a quarter falls from my pocket, it's technically correct that I'm poorer. But in substance, it's not accurate.

queencitybuckeye;1397750 wrote:It's technically correct. If a quarter falls from my pocket, it's technically correct that I'm poorer. But in substance, it's not accurate.

haha But it will cause massive gubmint layoff's and grandma will stop receiving her meds.

BoatShoes;1397681 wrote:Sure they are larger but the principle is the same. You're not going to find an example in a vaccuum and the UK is as close of a comparison to the United States we're going to get...a modern industrialized nation with its own fiat currency not convertible into a commodity with a free-floating exchange rate that has done a more hardcore version of the sequester. The UK hasn't had this imposed on them by the creditor nations of the Euro. It is not part of the Euro which has created the separate and distinct problems for the debtor nations which are tied with monetary union but not fiscal union.

Why not use Canada as an example during their austerity journey - or is it because it worked (so I guess there's not a one-size-fits all solution)? You're arguing austerity is bad when there is no evidence keynesianism is working. So perhaps there are other dominating factors.

UK is a bad example because that whole Eurozone just sucks the lifeblood out of all the economies. That bastion of Eurozone economics - Germany - has managed 1 quarter of +2% growth and 2 quarters of +1% growth over the past 5 years. The UK did 1% in Q3 - ohhh the pain of austerity!!!! The UK trailed Germany in 2012 by just about 0.2% growth (0.2 vs 0.4).

So, hmmm, maybe austerity isn't the UK's problem (or maybe all of Europe is just suffocating under a debt overhang). And, again, allow me to point out that the UK austerity measures were multiples of the sequester here.

Europe's problem is not austerity. It's decades of high deficits and high taxes coming home to roost. The US can continue down that path or it can try to change.

Or more simply...you don't cure cancer with more cancer.

(although maybe if Keynes had been a doctor...)

saying he [Obama] didn't have the power to "somehow do a Jedi mind meld with these folks and convince them to do what's right."

Dumbass....That only works on weak-minded fools, like the people that voted for you

gut;1398367 wrote:Or more simply...you don't cure cancer with more cancer.

(although maybe if Keynes had been a doctor...)

He and Kevorkian could have started a practice together.

O-Trap;1398748 wrote:He and Kevorkian could have started a practice together.

haha I see what you did there!

I stopped last night and got a couple of soft tacos at Taco Bell. Got a bad case of the shits this morning. Probably 1/2 horse meat in the ground beef and contaminated with God knows what else. With sequestration and the cuts to the FDA this is the kind of thing Obama has been warning the country about. Its only going to get worse. Thanks a lot John Boehner and you tea party republicans.

majorspark;1398850 wrote:I stopped last night and got a couple of soft tacos at Taco Bell. Got a bad case of the shits this morning. Probably 1/2 horse meat in the ground beef and contaminated with God knows what else. With sequestration and the cuts to the FDA this is the kind of thing Obama has been warning the country about. Its only going to get worse. Thanks a lot John Boehner and you tea party republicans.

Not a problem. Obamacare will give you some free Tums, a "feel good" pat on the back, and maybe an iPhone for your troubles.

After all the teachers get their pink slips I sure hope these cuts don't go far enough to cause the department of education to lose its SWAT team.

gut;1398286 wrote:Why not use Canada as an example during their austerity journey - or is it because it worked (so I guess there's not a one-size-fits all solution)? You're arguing austerity is bad when there is no evidence keynesianism is working. So perhaps there are other dominating factors.

Canada in 2012?? Their austerity measures have slowed growth as they try to chase a balanced budget by 2015...just as they have in the United States as our budget deficit has been shrinking the last couple of years. And, Canada is not even at the zero bound. They've been able to lower interest rates to offset the austerity (but they're running out of room as the inch closer).

If you're talking Canada in 1994...take a look at what happened...interest rates dropped and it offset the budget austerity (which is when I've always said you could cut spending or raise taxes because the central bank can offset the austerity) and the Canadian dollar was sharply devalued (what Paul Ryan would call "debasing").

Interest rates are at the zero bound in the U.S. and I find it unlikely that you would support devaluation. If you don't support that, beyond the unconventional monetary policy we're using, expansionary fiscal policy is the way to go.

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BoatShoes;1398897 wrote:Canada in 2012?? Their austerity measures have slowed growth as they try to chase a balanced budget by 2015...just as they have in the United States as our budget deficit has been shrinking the last couple of years.

No, I was talking Canada in the 90's when they had a real budget crisis.

And talking about slowing growth because of a shrinking deficit in the US the last few years proves you're full of shit (or just clueless). There haven't been any cuts or austerity. You keep saying the deficit is driven by automatic payments, well the economy recovers a bit and that starts ticking down and suddenly a shrinking deficit is bad for the economy. Now you aren't even linking growth with govt spending, but with deficit spending.

C'mon, Boat, it's time you pulled your head out of Keynes' arse.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/barackobama/9908260/Barack-Obama-a-dithering-controlling-risk-averse-US-president.html


The obama disaster rolls on ............ and some thought he would be great at foreign policy (after all, he received the Nobel peace prize). Too fu#$ing funny.

Change we can believe in ...

"Most of the reduction in unemployment from its 10% peak in October 2009 has been accomplished through a significant drop in the percentage of adults working or looking for work. Were the participation rate the same as when President Obama took office, it would be about 10.9%. Adding in part-time workers who would prefer full employment but can't find it, the unemployment rate becomes 14.2%."




The disaster rages; the carnage immeasurable.



Change we can believe in ...

ObamaKare...20,000 pages and rising. Look at a picture of the 828 pages of new regulations from one day - http://washingtonexaminer.com/photo-828-pages-of-new-obamacare-regulations-in-just-one-day/article/2524020

Who in the hell can understand all of this? This is better than what he had prior? I'm betting the stack goes higher than the tax code (73,000 pages) before they're all done making out lives "better".

ObamaPhones for the dead, but the White House is closed to The People. Unless, of course, you have $500,000 laying around, then you can shake hands with our King.

http://nation.foxnews.com/obama-phones/2013/03/12/lawmaker-looks-reign-obamaphone-program-dead

BGFalcons82;1404282 wrote:ObamaKare...20,000 pages and rising. Look at a picture of the 828 pages of new regulations from one day - http://washingtonexaminer.com/photo-828-pages-of-new-obamacare-regulations-in-just-one-day/article/2524020

Who in the hell can understand all of this? This is better than what he had prior? I'm betting the stack goes higher than the tax code (73,000 pages) before they're all done making out lives "better".

I think before a law can be passed, all members of Congress have to sit there and have it read line by line to them before they can leave for the day. Also, each member of Congress is required to print the document with them and highlight 5 sentences per page. If any member of Congress fails to do this, it's an automatic "no" vote and the Congress member pay is deducted by however long it takes Congress to read through the entire legislation. :thumbup:

believer;1398914 wrote:

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Not My President ..... mofo

majorspark;1398850 wrote:I stopped last night and got a couple of soft tacos at Taco Bell. Got a bad case of the shits this morning. Probably 1/2 horse meat in the ground beef and contaminated with God knows what else. With sequestration and the cuts to the FDA this is the kind of thing Obama has been warning the country about. Its only going to get worse. Thanks a lot John Boehner and you tea party republicans.

Please don't eat there anymore. Try the Chipotle.

I can't believe he got elected a second term. But that is politics. As to the corn feed, I don't know if that is done deliberately or what. Thanks for creating this thread here at http://www.ohiochatter.com

Does the person playing the devil in Mark Burnett's History Channel series "The Bible" remind you of anyone?

Is he trying to send us a subliminal message about who it is we should really be fearing in America?

IggyPride00;1408490 wrote:Is he trying to send us a subliminal message about who it is we should really be fearing in America?

No.

O-Trap;1408514 wrote:No.

this

The liberal blogs are on fire because of this right now.

Not only have they used a black man to portray Satan, they put a hoodie on him like that Trayvon Martin had on.

They are convinced the portrayal of the devil is nothing but a big dog whistle to all racists out there using many the ethnic stereotypes of black people seen today.