Election Day 2012

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Terry_Tate
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Nov 6, 2012 11:44pm
isadore;1314777 wrote:gosh a ruddies, the racism expected from Republican who hate our African American President.

I never heard a "White man vote" campaign on the radio. I did however hear a "Black man vote" campaign. But its the white people that are racist.

To clarify so this isn't misconstrued: racism exists on both sides, not just saying its only black people.

Also, can't believe I just responded to isadore. Just ignore everything I said, lol.
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QuakerOats
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Nov 6, 2012 11:44pm
rmolin73;1314780 wrote:How may I ask have you come up with this?
$6 trillion in new obama 'progressive' debt, the left can't pay for their agenda; the party will end. Where have you been the last 4 years?
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pmoney25
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Nov 6, 2012 11:44pm
gut;1314771 wrote:That's extremely wishful thinking.

This election was about the economy. In voting for Obama people chose fear of losing handouts over the hope of jobs Romney was promising. That's socialism. That's dependency.
I didn't say it would have made the gap close but even to close that gap by a couple points would have made a difference. I also agree that people are afraid of losing handouts. I also believe that when you nominate a candidate who looks like the guys who took your job, that is a problem. The Dems did a great job painting Romney as a Wall Street Fat cat who was out of touch with American People. Most people don't even understand what Romney actually did.

I honestly think this is the best thing that could have happened to the party if they are serious about being a true conservative party. We will see what happens in 4 years.
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Automatik
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Nov 6, 2012 11:45pm
All I wanna know is...

Who's moving to Colorado?!?

ROCKY MOUNTAIN HIGHHHHHH!!!
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WebFire
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Nov 6, 2012 11:45pm
isadore;1314777 wrote:gosh a ruddies, the racism expected from Republican who hate our African American President.
gosh a ruddies maybe it's because this ain't fucking Kenya. You are the racist one.
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isadore
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Nov 6, 2012 11:46pm
tk421;1314775 wrote:I bet you think this world would be a better place without white people, don't you? After all, all republicans are racists and greedy rich bastards. Us evil white men, keeping everyone else down. No one else in this country is racist or greedy except us.
millions of white people voted for Obama, ohio has larger percentage of white than the majority. But the greedy and the racists voted against our African American President.
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ts1227
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Nov 6, 2012 11:47pm
Automatik;1314787 wrote:All I wanna know is...

Who's moving to Colorado?!?

ROCKY MOUNTAIN HIGHHHHHH!!!
LOL, color me surprised.

(wes, here's one of the marijuana initiatives you were asking about, and it passed, lol)
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BoatShoes
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Nov 6, 2012 11:48pm
So the people who had a supposed special insight into the polls were wrong and were not relying on evidence but their gut feelings indeed...wishful thinking in other words when they claimed the polls were "garbage in/garbage out" will they admit this fact?
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wes_mantooth
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Nov 6, 2012 11:48pm
I am curious about one thing with Obama. I read that he is carrying about 93% of the black vote. I just wonder how many of them voted only because he is black...no other reason.
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IggyPride00
Posts: 6,482
Nov 6, 2012 11:49pm
Karl Rove is pissed.

THey just had to bring the decision desk people out on air to explain to him why Obama is going to win the state.

He is in disbelief right now, but it is good TV.
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wes_mantooth
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Nov 6, 2012 11:49pm
ts1227;1314791 wrote:LOL, color me surprised.

(wes, here's one of the marijuana initiatives you were asking about, and it passed, lol)
oh snap! Fuck the presidency...this is bigger news
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isadore
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Nov 6, 2012 11:49pm
tk421;1314779 wrote:lol, why do you always bring up the race of the President? What does it matter that he is half black? Who's the racist now?
because his race is the major motivating fact in their hatred of this president. you know the man republicans attacked as a Muslim Kenyan.
gosh we even saw of that in the open on this thread.
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Terry_Tate
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Nov 6, 2012 11:50pm
Also, I freaking can't stand Van Jones.
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gut
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Nov 6, 2012 11:50pm
BoatShoes;1314792 wrote:So the people who had a supposed special insight into the polls were wrong and were not relying on evidence but their gut feelings indeed...wishful thinking in other words when they claimed the polls were "garbage in/garbage out" will they admit this fact?
Riiiigggghhhttttt....Because the polls didn't show just a little bit more than a 20k or so vote difference.
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rmolin73
Posts: 4,278
Nov 6, 2012 11:50pm
wes_mantooth;1314793 wrote:I am curious about one thing with Obama. I read that he is carrying about 93% of the black vote. I just wonder how many of them voted only because he is black...no other reason.
About 80% or more lol.
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ts1227
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Nov 6, 2012 11:50pm
wes_mantooth;1314793 wrote:I am curious about one thing with Obama. I read that he is carrying about 93% of the black vote. I just wonder how many of them voted only because he is black...no other reason.
Oh there are plenty... and there are plenty of whites that voted for Mitt because he's not black. That will never go away in either direction. Blacks will always look out for one another, and the south will always be the south.
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wes_mantooth
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Nov 6, 2012 11:51pm
ts1227;1314800 wrote:Oh there are plenty... and there are plenty of whites that voted for Mitt because he's not black. That will never go away in either direction.
sad but true.
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gut
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Nov 6, 2012 11:53pm
pmoney25;1314786 wrote:I didn't say it would have made the gap close but even to close that gap by a couple points would have made a difference. I also agree that people are afraid of losing handouts. I also believe that when you nominate a candidate who looks like the guys who took your job, that is a problem. The Dems did a great job painting Romney as a Wall Street Fat cat who was out of touch with American People. Most people don't even understand what Romney actually did.

I honestly think this is the best thing that could have happened to the party if they are serious about being a true conservative party. We will see what happens in 4 years.
I get what you're saying, but I think you're ignoring that a more conservative platform also costs them votes on the margin.

What cost Romney this election is all socialist agenda - bailout in OH, minorities (not socialist, but it's been discussed) and probably also SS/Medicare in FL. Definitely lost FL on latinos, not sure if it could have made a difference in NV.
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IggyPride00
Posts: 6,482
Nov 6, 2012 11:53pm
The Tea Party officially cost Republicans control of the Senate this cycle.

In 2010 and 2012 they have now cost the party 5 slam bunk Senate seats, which would have given the party control of the Senate.

At some point these people need to be reigned in because they are hurting more than helping at this point.
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rmolin73
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Nov 6, 2012 11:53pm
On a side note Abby Huntsman can get it:D
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BoatShoes
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Nov 6, 2012 11:54pm
gut;1314798 wrote:Riiiigggghhhttttt....Because the polls didn't show just a little bit more than a 20k or so vote difference.
Why is it so hard to admit you were wrong? It is no reflection on your character or your person.
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BoatShoes
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Nov 6, 2012 11:54pm
rmolin73;1314805 wrote:On a side note Abby Huntsman can get it:D
Hard.
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gut
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Nov 6, 2012 11:56pm
BoatShoes;1314806 wrote:Why is it so hard to admit you were wrong? It is no reflection on your character or your person.
Read what I wrote several times. +7/8 Obama wins. +2 or less, Romney wins easily. D+3/4 it's a dead toss-up. I pretty much nailed it chief. All those polls having Obama +2, +4 or 5+ were off the mark, like I said.

Yeah, I thought turnout would be more like D+2 and Romney would win. I was wrong in that regard, and so were the polls.
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IggyPride00
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Nov 7, 2012 12:02am
Fox just called Colordo for Obama.

Romney should concede now, because even if he won Ohio, Florida, Virginia he would still be short.

It's time.
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WebFire
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Nov 7, 2012 12:03am
So it appears every big city is liberal. The rest of the country is overwhelmingly Republican. Looking at the county levels maps is just crazy.