This is like 2008. I am shocked really.

ptown_trojans_1;1314869 wrote:Umm, ball is in the House's court on the fiscal cliff.

True the ball is in the house's court. For some reason the American people left the republican party with control of the house. Maybe they would like to see them put up or shut up. They left them with the power of the purse. The republican's champion themselves as the only beacon of fiscal sanity. Their balls will shrivel up like raisins at the first mention of grandma or a child loosing some government benefit. You can bank on that.

BoatShoes;1314933 wrote:Well I could do that but you think he's a socialist...master of debt...master of unemployment...communist....activist/agitator....you're an unreasonable person and your views of the world have been repudiated again and all of your predictions were wrong....it's not worth it. Much more fun compelling you to accept your fail. :laugh:

He won; he must be able to solve our problems; 50% apparently think so. So, what is the plan? How is he going to lead us? How is he going to solve our massive problems? He's your man; you should know. What is it?

QuakerOats;1314941 wrote:So you cannot tell us how obama is going to lead us and solve our problems? why? He just won, again, he obviously has a plan to lead us, what is it? How is he going to solve our insolvency? Can't you answer the question?

Oh, now you come you serious questions?
Hmm, took you a while.
He has a freaking plan. It is not perfect and has much room for improvement, but is better than your boys.
And please, you have validity anymore.
What a joke.
Change you can believe in right?
You have never, ever, been right on here.

QuakerOats;1314945 wrote:He won; he must be able to solve our problems; 50% apparently think so. So, what is the plan? How is he going to lead us? How is he going to solve our massive problems? He's your man; you should know. What is it?

Ben is going to fire up the helicopter :laugh:

majorspark;1314943 wrote:True the ball is in the house's court. For some reason the American people left the republican party with control of the house. Maybe they would like to see them put up or shut up. They left them with the power of the purse. The republican's champion themselves as the only beacon of fiscal sanity. Their balls will shrivel up like raisins at the first mention of grandma or a child loosing some government benefit. You can bank on that.

1000% agreed.
I want them to come with tough solutions. I have yet to see a massive movement towards it that works with the Senate.

gut;1314947 wrote:Ben is going to fire up the helicopter :laugh:

Fire it up? It's been running since he took the job. He will run out of gas eventually.

Footwedge;1314936 wrote:"November can't get here fast enough....change you can believe in":laugh:

Indeed :laugh::laugh::laugh:

Cleveland Buck;1314951 wrote:Fire it up? It's been running since he took the job. He will run out of gas eventually.

No, man, it runs on water....WATER, man!

LMAO, two birds with one stone, eh?:laugh:

QuakerOats;1314945 wrote:He won; he must be able to solve our problems; 50% apparently think so. So, what is the plan? How is he going to lead us? How is he going to solve our massive problems? He's your man; you should know. What is it?

Abolish private property...get in the game....change we can believe in!

ptown_trojans_1;1314948 wrote:1000% agreed.
I want them to come with tough solutions. I have yet to see a massive movement towards it that works with the Senate.

What tough solutions do you think will work in the Senate? They won't cut one penny.

Obama wants to sit down with Romney to talk about how they can move this country forward?!?

Let me guess:
Obama: "You know, Mitt, you had some really good ideas...can you give me the cliff notes? And would you mind if I sign my own name?"

BoatShoes;1314954 wrote:Abolish private property...get in the game....change we can believe in!

Obama is going to take over all industries now. Stalin here we come
Change we can believe in!

There's always the Birth Certificate Option! #Whereisthebirthcertificate!?!?!?!?!

BoatShoes;1314959 wrote:There's always the Birth Certificate Option! #Whereisthebirthcertificate!?!?!?!?!

Did you see Kenya celebrating!
Not my President!

majorspark;1314943 wrote:True the ball is in the house's court. For some reason the American people left the republican party with control of the house. Maybe they would like to see them put up or shut up. They left them with the power of the purse. The republican's champion themselves as the only beacon of fiscal sanity. Their balls will shrivel up like raisins at the first mention of grandma or a child loosing some government benefit. You can bank on that.

Because there's so many gerrymandered districts it's absurd...it was a point of pride in 2010 when Republicans gained so many state and federal seats and would be able to gerrymander their districts and it proved true. Ohio is the perfect example. Huge Win by Sherrod Brown and a decisive win by Obama but way more Republican House Members.

Issue 2 should've passed but there just wasn't enough ad time. In a non-presidential year like next March with more money for it I think it would pass. There's no way there should be a district with all the black people in Akron and East Cleveland shoved in together. There's no way there should be a district composed of Toledo and the west side of Cleveland; etc. etc.

ptown_trojans_1;1314961 wrote:Did you see Kenya celebrating!
Not my President!

Just wait for the end of the acceptance speech when he reveals his true nefarious agenda to end Capitalism and punish America for Colonialism!

BoatShoes;1314963 wrote:Just wait for the end of the acceptance speech when he reveals his true nefarious agenda to end Capitalism and punish America for Colonialism!

And he will enslave us all like the dictator his really is.

And he will really go down as the worst President of all time.....

believer;1314885 wrote:And another example of why the Electoral College method of electing the POTUS needs some serious revamping.

My diagnosis is you suffer from election fatigue and you have a mild case of Romnesia. My prescription is get some rest. In the morning read up on the history of the founding. Do a thorough reading of the constitution and get back to me in the morning.

majorspark;1314969 wrote:My diagnosis is you suffer from election fatigue and you have a mild case of Romnesia. My prescription is get some rest. In the morning read up on the history of the founding. Do a thorough reading of the constitution and get back to me in the morning.

he's right. votes for certain candidates in certain states will never matter

tk421;1314480 wrote:nationwide? Where's Obama leading? CNN and FOX both having Romney ahead in the popular vote and electoral college.

Good Call...LOL:laugh:

Oh neat...another Tea Party Favorite....Allen West....LOST! :laugh::laugh::laugh:

Call me the eternal optimist, but this isn't the worst result. Obviously millions of Americans made this race a lot closer than it was in '08, even with a "Mormon" challenger and a MSM that ignored every gaffe the current administration made and Benghazi up and until the vote (BTW, what's the over/under that the BLS "unexpectedly" upticks the U-6 unemployment rate in the next couple of months?).

GOP kept the House, Obama lost percentage votes in virtually every jurisdiction other than those that are hard blue or dependent on government (Maryland, I'm looking at you).

To that point, I think Romney's inartistic comment about the 47% is actually true to a certain degree. We've grown our government to the point that so many Americans are dependent on the government directly (via employment, benefits, bail-outs, hand-outs, food stamps, TANF, etc.) or indirectly (government contracting) that it is a miracle that any politician proposing a reduction in entitlements would ever get elected.

That said, we can't go another US$6T in debt (mostly to China), if we do it would take a lunatic to want to run for POTUS in '16.

Nobody invests in losers. China invests in us because we're winners. Simple as that.