ptown_trojans_1;1314911 wrote:By law, massive cuts happen that impact every program for everyone if the Congress cannot come up with a solution.
Hey, their idea.

So, that is the problem. Cuts, but not in a smart way. Taking a meat cleaver when a scalper is needed.

Calling those cuts "massive" is ridiculous when they won't even get the deficit below $1 trillion a year.

ptown_trojans_1;1314894 wrote:What a bland speech by Romney....Wow.

What was he supposed to say?

ptown_trojans_1;1314896 wrote:I agree, but half the Congress is in the R hands. They DO have to do something. I have yet to see a damn thing from them.

They have sent reams to the senate Harry Reid has killed all of it. obama has stood by and watched it all. I guess that is the leadership we can expect going forward. But, obama just won, so HOW IS HE GOING TO SOLVE OUR PROBLEMS? The neck of the bottle is at the top.

ptown_trojans_1;1314911 wrote:By law, massive cuts happen that impact every program for everyone if the Congress cannot come up with a solution.
Hey, their idea.

So, that is the problem. Cuts, but not in a smart way. Taking a meat cleaver when a scalper is needed.

No meat clever or scalpel are required. We'll just have Ben print more bogus money to cover the deal.

Terry_Tate;1314913 wrote:What was he supposed to say?

I guess P-town was hoping Romney would offer to give Barry a blow job to spice things up.

QuakerOats;1314914 wrote:They have sent reams to the senate Harry Reid has killed all of it. obama has stood by and watched it all. I guess that is the leadership we can expect going forward. But, obama just won, so HOW IS HE GOING TO SOLVE OUR PROBLEMS? The neck of the bottle is at the top.

LoL. He's going to abolish private property duh. Stop pretending you're a reasonable person and accept your fail.

Footwedge;1314910 wrote:Pretty much tells me that my former party is viewed as a true ****pile of American politics.

No, they have a problem punching thru the lies/spin/deception of a liberal media. You can't tell me if Obama was a Repub - nevermind conservative or white - that he wouldn't have been skewered by the national media over his record and Benghazi and lost this election convincingly.

Cleveland Buck;1314912 wrote:Calling those cuts "massive" is ridiculous when they won't even get the deficit below $1 trillion a year.

Massive in the sense as they impact nearly every program without thought. Good programs will get cuts. Instead, the cuts need to be rationalized. These are just blind cuts to everything.

Terry_Tate;1314913 wrote:What was he supposed to say?

More like McCain in 2008.

QuakerOats;1314914 wrote:They have sent reams to the senate Harry Reid has killed all of it. obama has stood by and watched it all. I guess that is the leadership we can expect going forward. But, obama just won, so HOW IS HE GOING TO SOLVE OUR PROBLEMS? The neck of the bottle is at the top.

He has a plan, but I honestly do not care what you say. You have no real validity on here anymore. You have been so fail ridden that is is hilarious. Come back when you have new buzzwords and want to accuse the President of being a dictator and being a commie.
I'm sorry, but I have to smile when you are so wrong over the past few years. Please, come back with new ideas.

Oh, and Allen West, the crazy Tea Pary folk is tied at 50/50. Wow. Epic fail.

Still find it stunning that in an era where bankers are possibly the most hated people in America that the GOP nominated someone who could so easily be charicatured as Daddy War Bucks the way Willard was.

Everyone knew this is what Democrats would do to him, and yet it is as if the party elites just didn't care and were determined to nominate him because of his fund raising prowess.

Without the auto bailout issue Romney is President right now, but that was a club used to just beat him to death across the midwest.

The stuff with Bain, tax returns, his wealth and the Swiss bank accounts and the "Let Detroit go Bankrupt" op-ed were just fatal to him as a candidate in the long run.

In the Republican primary it was never properly dealt with because he just yelled "you hate free markets" if it was even broached. That was never going to fly in the general, and it was an unforced error that should have been dealt with by never even letting him get out of the primary.

IggyPride00;1314922 wrote:Still find it stunning that in an era where bankers are possibly the most hated people in America that the GOP nominated someone who could so easily be charicatured as Daddy War Bucks the way Willard was.

Everyone knew this is what Democrats would do to him, and yet it is as if the party elites just didn't care and were determined to nominate him because of his fund raising prowess.

Without the auto bailout issue Romney is President right now, but that was a club used to just beat him to death across the midwest.

The stuff with Bain, tax returns, his wealth and the Swiss bank accounts and the "Let Detroit go Bankrupt" op-ed were just fatal to him as a candidate in the long run.

In the Republican primary it was never properly dealt with because he just yelled "you hate free markets" if it was even broached. That was never going to fly in the general, and it was an unforced error that should have been dealt with by never even letting him get out of the primary.

I agree with what you're saying but look at who the other candidates were....

ptown_trojans_1;1314911 wrote:By law, massive cuts happen that impact every program for everyone if the Congress cannot come up with a solution.
Hey, their idea.

So, that is the problem. Cuts, but not in a smart way. Taking a meat cleaver when a scalper is needed.

The cuts really aren't that massive and probably should stand. What is it, like $80-100B a year in total? We should probably be looking at something on the order of $200B in cuts and increased revenues per year, and hope a recovering economy closes the rest of the gap. And cutting spending first, before raising taxes, would be preferable.

A growing economy should be able to absorb that, and putting this country on a sustainable fiscal path will pay dividends, as well. The deficit monstrosity is literally an anchor around the throat of this economy.

BoatShoes;1314918 wrote:LoL. He's going to abolish private property duh. Stop pretending you're a reasonable person and accept your fail.

Please tell us, how is your man going to lead us now? How is he going to tackle our problems. Ball in your court; enlighten us.

I would agree that the cuts need to take place. But, these cuts are across the board, to all programs. I would shift it to more defense and domestic programs that need cut.
That is what is needed. What is going to be cut, and how. Some programs need drastic and some not as much.
Something we did not hear at all in the election.

IggyPride00;1314922 wrote:Everyone knew this is what Democrats would do to him, and yet it is as if the party elites just didn't care and were determined to nominate him because of his fund raising prowess.

Divide & Conquer would have been the strategy for anyone, the attack ads would have just been a little different. Romney really was the best choice to take it Obama on the economy and he did it well. The fundamental problem would appear to be a Repub issue and not a Romney issue.

Oh wait...Obama wins Virginia too.

Let's see....

"Virginia is long gone" despite polls showing it being slightly for Obama at the end....I guess the claim was oversampling, etc. LOL

Garbage in/garbage out....LOL

"Nobody's getting near 300 electoral votes." 303-203....LOL.

QuakerOats;1314927 wrote:Please tell us, how is your man going to lead us now? How is he going to tackle our problems. Ball in your court; enlighten us.

Oh, he is going to enslave you and take you guns. He is going to lower the stars and stripes and raise the hammer and sickle.
Is that what you expected? Guess seeing what you type it sounds like it......
Stalin is in power!
Commie, dictator and socialist.

You understand that language right? It is all you said the past 4 years.

QuakerOats;1314927 wrote:Please tell us, how is your man going to lead us now? How is he going to tackle our problems. Ball in your court; enlighten us.

Well I could do that but you think he's a socialist...master of debt...master of unemployment...communist....activist/agitator....you're an unreasonable person and your views of the world have been repudiated again and all of your predictions were wrong....it's not worth it. Much more fun compelling you to accept your fail. :laugh:

The amount of hyperbolic, butt-hurt reactionist statements in this thread are hilarious.

Oh, and to ccrunner, I guess the worst President of all time just for reelected. What a joke.

BoatShoes;1314933 wrote:Well I could do that but you think he's a socialist...master of debt...master of unemployment...communist....activist/agitator....you're an unreasonable person and your views of the world have been repudiated again and all of your predictions were wrong....it's not worth it. Much more fun compelling you to accept your fail. :laugh:

"November can't get here fast enough....change you can believe in":laugh:

Change you can believe it!
Right Quaker?

ptown_trojans_1;1314928 wrote:I would agree that the cuts need to take place. But, these cuts are across the board, to all programs. I would shift it to more defense and domestic programs that need cut.
That is what is needed. What is going to be cut, and how. Some programs need drastic and some not as much.
Something we did not hear at all in the election.

Agreed.

But of course no one wanted to talk about it during the election. But talking about cutting anything in our increasingly socialistic society is a political death sentence. Romney/Ryan danced around it with Medicare "reform", and it may have cost them FL and OH (I don't think it did). So expecting a candidate to give you a more definitive/aggressive plan was never going to happen.

Although it does play into why Romney/Ryan may ultimately have lost. They WERE going to have those debates. But it's a loser to debate that in a public/campaign forum. America is warming to the need for reform but not ready to trust someone to fix those issues.

ptown_trojans_1;1314935 wrote:Oh, and to ccrunner, I guess the worst President of all time just for reelected. What a joke.

Now Obama's failure can be complete

ptown_trojans_1;1314920 wrote:Massive in the sense as they impact nearly every program without thought. Good programs will get cuts. Instead, the cuts need to be rationalized. These are just blind cuts to everything.


More like McCain in 2008.


He has a plan, but I honestly do not care what you say. You have no real validity on here anymore. You have been so fail ridden that is is hilarious. Come back when you have new buzzwords and want to accuse the President of being a dictator and being a commie.
I'm sorry, but I have to smile when you are so wrong over the past few years. Please, come back with new ideas.

Oh, and Allen West, the crazy Tea Pary folk is tied at 50/50. Wow. Epic fail.

Alan West is a microcosm of why the GOP is where they are.

ptown_trojans_1;1314931 wrote:Oh, he is going to enslave you and take you guns. He is going to lower the stars and stripes and raise the hammer and sickle.
Is that what you expected? Guess seeing what you type it sounds like it......
Stalin is in power!
Commie, dictator and socialist.

You understand that language right? It is all you said the past 4 years.

So you cannot tell us how obama is going to lead us and solve our problems? why? He just won, again, he obviously has a plan to lead us, what is it? How is he going to solve our insolvency? Can't you answer the question?