Archive Tribe Off Season/Hot Stove thread.

Crimson streak

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Feb 25, 2013 8:41pm

Laley23;1395979 wrote:Seriously?

He had his career ruined with injury and lack of pace. If he can regain 95 consistently I wouldnt doubt he moves into our top 2 of the rotation.

Yes. Francona has even said its crazy how good he is right now. As long as he stays healthy he should make the rotation. From all accounts he was locating his fastball very well and only got hit hard once and that was a hanging breaking pitch.

Crimson streak

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Feb 25, 2013 8:42pm

He was also pitching a bit in winter ball and was consistently hitting 92-93-94 and looked like his old self. The key for him would be to stay healthy

lhslep134

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Feb 25, 2013 9:17pm

That would be amazing if we got anything useful out of Kazmir.

Crimson streak

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Feb 25, 2013 9:21pm

lhslep134;1396015 wrote:That would be amazing if we got anything useful out of Kazmir.

I think he is really going to surprise people.

HitsRus

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Feb 25, 2013 11:44pm

Anybody know what the radar on Ubaldo was?

TBone14

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Feb 26, 2013 9:09am

That is promising news on Kazmir. Looking at his career numbers, 2005-2008 his highest ERA was 3.77 and 3 of those years below 3.5. Never had many wins but he was on some awful Tampa teams. I don't know if we can expect that form but if we got that it would be a huge, huge boost. To say the least.

Crimson streak

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Feb 26, 2013 9:53am

HitsRus;1396129 wrote:Anybody know what the radar on Ubaldo was?

From everything I have heard. Him and Francona are working on him getting to 95mph. Francona was helping him with his mechanics all winter to get him to that 95. If he's hitting 92 or lower he gets rocked but when he hits 95 or higher he always has a very good outing.

HitsRus

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Feb 27, 2013 7:39am

http://cleveland.indians.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20130226&content_id=42028566&vkey=news_cle&c_id=cle

Tribe getting ready to run using newfound speed.....

Well...so much for the undefeated season

Tribe loses to Royals 4-1 yesterday.
Francona names Justin Masterson named opening day starter.

iclfan2

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Feb 28, 2013 10:32pm

Indians making hot dogs $3 and 12oz beers $4. Dolan MUST be on a 3 month bender.

Laley23

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Feb 28, 2013 10:36pm

Im pretty excited about that news on the concessions. Maybe I can get TWO beers this year!!! lol

GOONx19

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Mar 1, 2013 3:57pm

There's a good article about the team in this week's SI.

HitsRus

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Mar 2, 2013 9:49am

That is a good article^^^...and OSU's Braxton Miler is on the cover to boot! Good to see some positive press. The negativity the previous years(self inflicted) was getting suffocating.

Tribe beats Chi Sox 9-7 yesterday....Mike McDade(1B) and Matt Carson(OF) are making a case for themselves. Masterson gets roughed up, but Kaczmir looks good.

Perez out for a month with a shoulder strain:thumbdown:

CLEconomically Speaking

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Mar 2, 2013 12:42pm

HitsRus;1398853 wrote:That is a good article^^^...and OSU's Braxton Miler is on the cover to boot! Good to see some positive press. The negativity the previous years(self inflicted) was getting suffocating.

Tribe beats Chi Sox 9-7 yesterday....Mike McDade(1B) and Matt Carson(OF) are making a case for themselves. Masterson gets roughed up, but Kaczmir looks good.

Perez out for a month with a shoulder strain:thumbdown:

Can we trade him yet?

royal_k

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Mar 2, 2013 6:51pm

Ubaldo gets shelled...Raburn with another HR, and he's a non-roster player. I think he's making a statement.

http://www.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20130302&content_id=42203570&c_id=cle&partnerId=fb_content_CLE

Crimson streak

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Mar 2, 2013 7:07pm

royal_k;1399135 wrote:Ubaldo gets shelled...Raburn with another HR, and he's a non-roster player. I think he's making a statement.

http://www.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20130302&content_id=42203570&c_id=cle&partnerId=fb_content_CLE

Ubaldo got credited for 5 runs but when he was pitching I believe he gave up 2 and the guy that came in have up the rest. He didn't have it today but I liked how he battled the first 2 innings.

HitsRus

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Mar 4, 2013 9:38am

There's a difference between how a guy goes about spring training when they have a guaranteed spot. Those guys are working on pitches and getting ready. Guys that are in competition for roster spots are a different story. Those guys are pitching as if their career depends on it.

CLEconomically Speaking

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Mar 7, 2013 12:51am

I think Kazmir is a lock for the rotation at this point. Thoughts?

HitsRus

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Mar 7, 2013 7:17am

I think there are going to be some tough roster cuts near the end. Some of it may come down to who we can stash at AAA.

royal_k

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Mar 7, 2013 4:16pm

Kazmir and Dice k have both been impressive. Of the 2, I'd prefer Kazmir. Hit's is right. There's going to be some tough decisions at the end of camp.

CLEconomically Speaking

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Mar 7, 2013 4:24pm

Dice k has looked good but he just doesn't have the velocity. It'd be interesting to see him come on in relief though. That delivery would definitely create timing issues

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Footwedge

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Mar 7, 2013 6:44pm

Crimson streak;1399138 wrote:Ubaldo got credited for 5 runs but when he was pitching I believe he gave up 2 and the guy that came in have up the rest. He didn't have it today but I liked how he battled the first 2 innings.

geez....just when you thought Pat Shurmer was officially gone.

HitsRus

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Mar 7, 2013 10:32pm

geez....just when you thought Pat Shurmer was officially gone.

:laugh: no offense crimson, but I thought the same thing. The time for Ubaldo to step up is now....no more excuses. In his defense, it is spring training and pitchers who know they have a guaranteed spot are working on their stuff, and are not necesarily concerned with results..YET. BUT when the season starts....he better be able to get guys out.....we are not going to care about how he battled.....and I certainly hope we never hear this out of Tito's mouth.

royal_k

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Mar 8, 2013 2:52am

Ubaldo pitches well and Swisher and Giambi go deep.

http://cleveland.indians.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20130307&content_id=42416914&vkey=news_cle&c_id=cle

Crimson streak

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Mar 8, 2013 5:57am

HitsRus;1402399 wrote::laugh: no offense crimson, but I thought the same thing. The time for Ubaldo to step up is now....no more excuses. In his defense, it is spring training and pitchers who know they have a guaranteed spot are working on their stuff, and are not necesarily concerned with results..YET. BUT when the season starts....he better be able to get guys out.....we are not going to care about how he battled.....and I certainly hope we never hear this out of Tito's mouth.

Oh I agree but it seemed like last year he would give up 2 hits and then he would melt down and 2 hits turned into 3-4 runs. I feel like he will have a solid bounce back year.

like_that

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Mar 8, 2013 7:18am

Crimson streak;1402478 wrote:Oh I agree but it seemed like last year he would give up 2 hits and then he would melt down and 2 hits turned into 3-4 runs. I feel like he will have a solid bounce back year.

It didnt seem like that... It DID happen. The tribe seems to do a good job of placing mentally weak pitchers on the rotation. Carmona was the fucking worst. He could be having a great outing, all of a sudden a guy gets on base with TWO outs and Carmona implodes to give up 4 runs.