like_that
Posts: 26,625
Feb 13, 2013 8:22am
Sounds like a fancy way of saying "small ball." New lineup, new season, same shit.HitsRus;1388181 wrote:I like this lineup...speed and defense. This team can score many ways.
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
Feb 13, 2013 8:39am
No, it's a fancy way of saying we should be a threat to score a run every inning, which we haven't been since '07.like_that;1388199 wrote:Sounds like a fancy way of saying "small ball." New lineup, new season, same ****.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Feb 13, 2013 8:47am
I won't hold my breath.lhslep134;1388210 wrote:No, it's a fancy way of saying we should be a threat to score a run every inning, which we haven't been since '07.
CLEconomically Speaking
Posts: 401
Feb 13, 2013 10:02am
Who cares? Next year it will be the same shit. 4-12 after three years chud will be fired along with banner and Lombardi then we will switch back to the 4-3.like_that;1388199 wrote:Sounds like a fancy way of saying "small ball." New lineup, new season, same shit.
hoops23
Posts: 15,696
Feb 13, 2013 10:36am
I'm pleased with the offseason. Don't think we'll win the central, but you never know...
I do think we are improved enough to contend for that LAST Wild Card spot.
Last season, a game would be 5-2 after the 3rd or 4th inning, and you knew the game was over... Not so much this year. There is good speed and some good pop in the line up now.
I do think we are improved enough to contend for that LAST Wild Card spot.
Last season, a game would be 5-2 after the 3rd or 4th inning, and you knew the game was over... Not so much this year. There is good speed and some good pop in the line up now.
CLEconomically Speaking
Posts: 401
Feb 13, 2013 10:51am
How has no one criticized this yet? I won the WS with the Tribe on 2k11, how come we didn't at least make the playoffs that year?? I also hate this batting order. You have the lineup spread too thin. Cant let opposition walk a batter to get better matchups. Gotta string together hits to score runs.lhslep134;1388144 wrote:I made all of the recent changes and started a new franchise in MLB 2K12 (Bauer is my 5th starter).
Lineup is ridiculous, there's speed all over the place, at least in the lineup I used:
1. Bourn
2. Cabrera
3. Kipnis
4. Santana
5. Brantley
6. Swisher
7. Reynolds
8. Chisenhall
9. Stubbs
1.Bourn
2. Cabrera
3. Swisher
4.Reynolds
5.Santana
6.Brantley
7.Kipnis
8.Chisenhall
9.Stubbs
hasbeen
Posts: 6,504
Feb 13, 2013 10:53am
Nobody has criticized it because not everyone's a tool.CLEconomically Speaking;1388292 wrote:How has no one criticized this yet? I won the WS with the Tribe on 2k11, how come we didn't at least make the playoffs that year?? I also hate this batting order. You have the lineup spread too thin. Cant let opposition walk a batter to get better matchups. Gotta string together hits to score runs.
1.Bourn
2. Cabrera
3. Swisher
4.Reynolds
5.Santana
6.Brantley
7.Kipnis
8.Chisenhall
9.Stubbs
HitsRus
Posts: 9,206
Feb 13, 2013 12:37pm
I didn't criticize it because I was only looking at the people in it, not necessarily the order. Sure, I'm not going to hit Swish in the 6 hole...but so what. I expect Francona to get it right.How has no one criticized this yet?
What I like is the speed. You have 3 + guys who can steal a base.....you don't necessarily have to give up an out to advance a runner. That is huge...and I think that'll be a big boost to the offense and the ability to score runs.
not at all.Sounds like a fancy way of saying "small ball." New lineup, new season, same ****.
I really like the way this team is going to match up against the Tigers and their defense. If you can't outslug a team, ( and probably not outpitch them either)then you beat them by putting pressure on their doddering defense which is loaded with hitters who are average/belowaverage fielders. Speed kills, and I like what the front office has done.
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Feb 13, 2013 1:13pm
Having a conversation with a friend, he thinks Brantley is the odd man out/non starter currently of our 4 OFs. Thinks Swisher, Stubbs, Bourn starts over him. I think Stubbs is the odd man out. What do you guys think?
ohiobucks1
Posts: 4,915
Feb 13, 2013 1:24pm
I'd say stubbs is out, but if he can somehow find his swing, then he might be the steal of the year.
Ty Webb
Posts: 2,798
Feb 13, 2013 1:38pm
That is the exactly line-up my buddy and I were talking about at work last night...CLEconomically Speaking;1388292 wrote:How has no one criticized this yet? I won the WS with the Tribe on 2k11, how come we didn't at least make the playoffs that year?? I also hate this batting order. You have the lineup spread too thin. Cant let opposition walk a batter to get better matchups. Gotta string together hits to score runs.
1.Bourn
2. Cabrera
3. Swisher
4.Reynolds
5.Santana
6.Brantley
7.Kipnis
8.Chisenhall
9.Stubbs
While I'm not an Indians fan.....they sure are going to be fun to watch
GOONx19
Posts: 7,147
Feb 13, 2013 2:08pm
Who's DH and who's 1B?lhslep134;1388144 wrote:I made all of the recent changes and started a new franchise in MLB 2K12 (Bauer is my 5th starter).
Lineup is ridiculous, there's speed all over the place, at least in the lineup I used:
1. Bourn
2. Cabrera
3. Kipnis
4. Santana
5. Brantley
6. Swisher
7. Reynolds
8. Chisenhall
9. Stubbs
royal_k
Posts: 4,423
Feb 13, 2013 2:30pm
Swisher will play 1st and Reynolds would DH.GOONx19;1388429 wrote:Who's DH and who's 1B?
Read an article somewhere where Francona said 1st base is probably Swisher's best position.
CLEconomically Speaking
Posts: 401
Feb 13, 2013 2:44pm
saw a bleacher report article that had Giambi as fulltime DH LOLroyal_k;1388439 wrote:Swisher will play 1st and Reynolds would DH.
Read an article somewhere where Francona said 1st base is probably Swisher's best position.
hoops23
Posts: 15,696
Feb 13, 2013 2:58pm
No way Stubbs starts over Brantley... Brantley is a good hitter, will get on base, and doesn't K nearly as often.Commander of Awesome;1388393 wrote:Having a conversation with a friend, he thinks Brantley is the odd man out/non starter currently of our 4 OFs. Thinks Swisher, Stubbs, Bourn starts over him. I think Stubbs is the odd man out. What do you guys think?
shook_17
Posts: 3,023
Feb 13, 2013 3:07pm
This would be some what funny if this were the browns thread. So therefore you continue to look like a tool. SMHCLEconomically Speaking;1388256 wrote:Who cares? Next year it will be the same ****. 4-12 after three years chud will be fired along with banner and Lombardi then we will switch back to the 4-3.
I will get excited about this team once they show they can actually compete with MLB teams. Right now I'm close but they have to prove it.
HitsRus
Posts: 9,206
Feb 13, 2013 4:01pm
I'm thinking Swish will log some time at 1B, and Reynolds goes to DH. Or Swish goes to DH and Reynolds plays first. Or Swish plays RF and Brantley Dh's..... Or...lots of combos etc.
Crimson streak
Posts: 9,002
Feb 13, 2013 4:26pm
royal_k;1388439 wrote:Swisher will play 1st and Reynolds would DH.
Read an article somewhere where Francona said 1st base is probably Swisher's best position.
Yep.
Stubbs-rf
Bourn-cf
Brantley-lf
Swisher-1b
Reynolds-dh
wes_mantooth
Posts: 17,977
Feb 13, 2013 4:27pm
Bought a 10 ticket flex pass today....pumped!
se-alum
Posts: 13,948
Feb 13, 2013 5:04pm
Not sure you want Stubbs playing a corner outfield position. He's terrible at playing angles, and I can see him turning a lot of doubles into triples trying to play the corners.Crimson streak;1388507 wrote:Yep.
Stubbs-rf
Bourn-cf
Brantley-lf
Swisher-1b
Reynolds-dh
Crimson streak
Posts: 9,002
Feb 13, 2013 5:33pm
se-alum;1388520 wrote:Not sure you want Stubbs playing a corner outfield position. He's terrible at playing angles, and I can see him turning a lot of doubles into triples trying to play the corners.
That's what Francona has said will happen so let's hope he gets better lol
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
Feb 13, 2013 5:48pm
I think Stubbs would be OK defensively in RF. But his R/L splits are awful. I'm guessing that Stubbs will sit against righties, Swish to RF, Reynolds to 1st and a DH who hits righties well.
As per my lineup: that's not my projected lineup nor the lineup I think is best. It's the one I wanted to play with in 2k lol.
As per my lineup: that's not my projected lineup nor the lineup I think is best. It's the one I wanted to play with in 2k lol.
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Footwedge
Posts: 9,265
Feb 13, 2013 6:16pm
Stubbs will not start. The guy strikes out more than 3 out of 10 times. Carrera will play ahead of him. And if Carrera cant cut it, I'm going to suit up.Crimson streak;1388507 wrote:Yep.
Stubbs-rf
Bourn-cf
Brantley-lf
Swisher-1b
Reynolds-dh
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Footwedge
Posts: 9,265
Feb 13, 2013 6:25pm
Brantley will play...almost every single day. If I remember correctly, he hits lefties pretty well.Commander of Awesome;1388393 wrote:Having a conversation with a friend, he thinks Brantley is the odd man out/non starter currently of our 4 OFs. Thinks Swisher, Stubbs, Bourn starts over him. I think Stubbs is the odd man out. What do you guys think?
Crimson streak
Posts: 9,002
Feb 13, 2013 6:28pm
Footwedge;1388548 wrote:Stubbs will not start. The guy strikes out more than 3 out of 10 times. Carrera will play ahead of him. And if Carrera cant cut it, I'm going to suit up.
Better tell Francona that considered he said Stubbs will be the RF