like_that
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Oct 22, 2012 2:39pm
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QuakerOats
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Oct 22, 2012 3:20pm
Look for Romney to win 301 - 237, or 321 - 217 (as I think PA still has a solid chance to go red). And, imagine the complete spanking if you took the socialist states out, CA, NY, MD.
fish82
Posts: 4,111
Oct 22, 2012 3:42pm
Florida and Virginia are long gone. He needs to worry about Wisconsin. There's a legit chance Mitt loses Ohio and picks up WI, finishing at 271.BoatShoes;1301722 wrote:In the end I think...barring a major flop by Obama tonight akin to the first debate or some other surprise...Barry holds on to a close win losing Florida and Virginia but holding onto Ohio.
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I Wear Pants
Posts: 16,223
Oct 22, 2012 6:05pm
The socialist states...so how much computer time do they allow you in the asylum? Is it even with Ty Webb or does he get more time in what I'm sure you consider a liberal conspiracy?QuakerOats;1301825 wrote:Look for Romney to win 301 - 237, or 321 - 217 (as I think PA still has a solid chance to go red). And, imagine the complete spanking if you took the socialist states out, CA, NY, MD.
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I Wear Pants
Posts: 16,223
Oct 22, 2012 6:06pm
I WANT MAPS DAMN IT, MAPS!!!!!!fish82;1301720 wrote:Mine hasn't changed. I still have Mittens up 261-243 with Ohio, Wisconsin and Iowa too close to call.
fish82
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Oct 23, 2012 5:44am
I"m not cool enough to do a screenshot. :laugh:I Wear Pants;1301956 wrote:I WANT MAPS DAMN IT, MAPS!!!!!!
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BoatShoes
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Oct 23, 2012 5:52am
That would be wild...would definitely prove me wrong on the VP pick because I thought he should've gone with Rubio or Portman because I thought that'd get him a state whereas I never suspected Wisconsin would be this much in play (even with the the Recall, etc.)fish82;1301850 wrote:Florida and Virginia are long gone. He needs to worry about Wisconsin. There's a legit chance Mitt loses Ohio and picks up WI, finishing at 271.
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gut
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Oct 23, 2012 7:12am
We may never know if Ryan was his first choice. But I think for really attacking Obama on spending and economics/fiscal that Ryan was the perfect choice. And I always thought WI could be on the table after looking at the recall and Ryan's popularity there, but of course at the time FL was more critical and very much in doubt. I think it was fair, initially, to think that Ryan could have hurt him in FL.BoatShoes;1302494 wrote:That would be wild...would definitely prove me wrong on the VP pick because I thought he should've gone with Rubio or Portman because I thought that'd get him a state whereas I never suspected Wisconsin would be this much in play (even with the the Recall, etc.)
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gut
Posts: 15,058
Oct 23, 2012 7:17am
What's interesting is the bailout has been effective at hurting Romney, particularly in OH and MI (obviously). But that's been one of the more gross mischaracterizations of Romney's views.
However, if you were going to turn back the clock on that one, it's probably an equally effective (and accurate) tactic to say under Romney the UAW would have gotten a lot less.
What a kick in the nuts that, after 4 years of this economic malaise, what could tip the election is paying off the UAW all the way back in 2009.
However, if you were going to turn back the clock on that one, it's probably an equally effective (and accurate) tactic to say under Romney the UAW would have gotten a lot less.
What a kick in the nuts that, after 4 years of this economic malaise, what could tip the election is paying off the UAW all the way back in 2009.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Oct 24, 2012 9:15am
Rasmussen has Obama/Romney tied at 48% in Ohio. I wish I was voting in Ohio this election smh.
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gut
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Oct 24, 2012 9:22am
Don't they say if the incumbent is not at 50 that he is losing?like_that;1303303 wrote:Rasmussen has Obama/Romney tied at 48% in Ohio. I wish I was voting in Ohio this election smh.
fish82
Posts: 4,111
Oct 24, 2012 9:33am
The needle isn't moving as fast as elsewhere, but Mitt obviously has the momentum going in Ohio.
se-alum
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Oct 24, 2012 9:40am
IMO, it all comes down to Ohio. I see Mitt taking FLA, NC, VA, and CO.
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QuakerOats
Posts: 8,740
Oct 24, 2012 9:40am
For the incumbent to be mid-40's at this stage of the game means game over.gut;1303307 wrote:Don't they say if the incumbent is not at 50 that he is losing?
sleeper
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Oct 24, 2012 9:41am
I think Mitt grabs Ohio as well.se-alum;1303320 wrote:IMO, it all comes down to Ohio. I see Mitt taking FLA, NC, VA, and CO.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Oct 24, 2012 9:43am
I can see Mitt stealing Wisconsin as well.se-alum;1303320 wrote:IMO, it all comes down to Ohio. I see Mitt taking FLA, NC, VA, and CO.
se-alum
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Oct 24, 2012 2:59pm
Ty Webb
Posts: 2,798
Oct 24, 2012 5:14pm
Time Magazine has Obama up 49-44;up 2-to-1 with early voters
Survey USA has him up 47-44
Lake Research has him up 46-44
How exactly does Romney have the momentum in Ohio?
Nevada is drifting blue as well
Survey USA has him up 47-44
Lake Research has him up 46-44
How exactly does Romney have the momentum in Ohio?
Nevada is drifting blue as well
Ty Webb
Posts: 2,798
Oct 24, 2012 5:15pm
Um....nolike_that;1303325 wrote:I can see Mitt stealing Wisconsin as well.
Crimson streak
Posts: 9,002
Oct 24, 2012 5:21pm
Let me guess you got your info from your secret Obama polls?
fish82
Posts: 4,111
Oct 24, 2012 5:21pm
Dude. The Time poll has a farking D+10 sample. The other two are D+5 and D+7. Do you seriously never look at crosstabs before you post this sht?Ty Webb;1303705 wrote:Time Magazine has Obama up 49-44;up 2-to-1 with early voters
Survey USA has him up 47-44
Lake Research has him up 46-44
How exactly does Romney have the momentum in Ohio?
Your disappointment will be palpable that Tuesday night.
se-alum
Posts: 13,948
Oct 24, 2012 5:26pm
If you're not citing Rasmussen or PEW, you're doing it wrong.Ty Webb;1303705 wrote:Time Magazine has Obama up 49-44;up 2-to-1 with early voters
Survey USA has him up 47-44
Lake Research has him up 46-44
How exactly does Romney have the momentum in Ohio?
Nevada is drifting blue as well
Ty Webb
Posts: 2,798
Oct 24, 2012 5:27pm
fish82;1303716 wrote:Dude. The Time poll has a farking D+10 sample. The other two are D+5 and D+7. Do you seriously never look at crosstabs before you post this sht?
Your disappointment will be palpable that Tuesday night.
If Mitt has the type of momentum you people here claim....it shouldn't matter what the crosstabs are! Romney should be kicking our ass everywhere...BUT HE ISN'T
Crimson streak
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Oct 24, 2012 5:37pm
Ty Webb;1303726 wrote:If Mitt has the type of momentum you people here claim....it shouldn't matter what the crosstabs are! Romney should be kicking our ass everywhere...BUT HE ISN'T
Our? You consider yourself part of Obama campaign lmao.
fish82
Posts: 4,111
Oct 24, 2012 5:37pm
He's cut the RCP average from 6 points to less than 2 in the span of three weeks. What would you call that, if not momentum?Ty Webb;1303726 wrote:If Mitt has the type of momentum you people here claim....it shouldn't matter what the crosstabs are! Romney should be kicking our ass everywhere...BUT HE ISN'T
Apply a still very generous D+4 sample to those three polls you just posted and Mittens is probably dead even if not up a point.