sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Jan 25, 2013 10:03pm
Going to cool seeing Lebron and Irving on the floor together at the all-star game.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Jan 25, 2013 10:06pm
The Cavs have to have the youngest starting team in the NBA. Zeller and Waiters are rookies and TT and KI are 2nd year players.
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gport_tennis
Posts: 1,796
Jan 25, 2013 10:15pm
sleeper;1374913 wrote:The Cavs have to have the youngest starting team in the NBA. Zeller and Waiters are rookies and TT and KI are 2nd year players.
And they are all playing well. How pissed would we be if we drafted Austin river lol
GOONx19
Posts: 7,147
Jan 25, 2013 11:14pm
Plus Kyrie and TT were one and dones. Their biggest improvement will likely come between years 4 and 5.sleeper;1374913 wrote:The Cavs have to have the youngest starting team in the NBA. Zeller and Waiters are rookies and TT and KI are 2nd year players.
20, 21, 21, 22, and 25.
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Footwedge
Posts: 9,265
Jan 25, 2013 11:30pm
Not as cool as when they both play on the Cavs team in 2014. Bron will bring Rudy Gay with him too.sleeper;1374910 wrote:Going to cool seeing Lebron and Irving on the floor together at the all-star game.
Pick6
Posts: 14,946
Jan 25, 2013 11:36pm
LOLFootwedge;1374935 wrote:Not as cool as when they both play on the Cavs team in 2014. Bron will bring Rudy Gay with him too.
KR1245
Posts: 4,317
Jan 26, 2013 8:15am
Great game last night! Speights is going to be a great addition to this team, I wouldnt be surprised if he's starting over Zeller in the near future.
Kyrie, TT and Dion all played very good games. If Dion can make a jump in his 2nd year the way that Trsitan did this team could very fun to watch in the future.
Kyrie, TT and Dion all played very good games. If Dion can make a jump in his 2nd year the way that Trsitan did this team could very fun to watch in the future.
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Jan 26, 2013 11:39am
Glad to see Speights is playing well, I was pretty pumped about his addition. ESPN is reporting though that the Cavs may ship him out again in a trade before the deadline.
Pick6
Posts: 14,946
Jan 26, 2013 12:26pm
Yea I believe the Cavs arent done making moves. We already have so many picks stocked up, its crazy. Though some may not work out in our favor (Lakers missing the playoffs).
Mulva
Posts: 13,650
Jan 26, 2013 12:35pm
This would make me sad.Commander of Awesome;1375060 wrote:Glad to see Speights is playing well, I was pretty pumped about his addition. ESPN is reporting though that the Cavs may ship him out again in a trade before the deadline.
KR1245
Posts: 4,317
Jan 26, 2013 12:36pm
I just saw this.Commander of Awesome;1375060 wrote:Glad to see Speights is playing well, I was pretty pumped about his addition. ESPN is reporting though that the Cavs may ship him out again in a trade before the deadline.
I would like to keep him around to see what he can do with some heavy minute.
Midstate01
Posts: 14,766
Jan 26, 2013 12:37pm
I would hate to trade him. He really fits a need with the cavs.
KR1245
Posts: 4,317
Jan 26, 2013 12:39pm
It sounds like Boobie and Casspi will probably be traded as well.
I'll pack Casspi's bags for him but I'd be sad to see Boobie go
I'll pack Casspi's bags for him but I'd be sad to see Boobie go
Pick6
Posts: 14,946
Jan 26, 2013 12:39pm
If we want to keep Speights, we will probably have to end up paying him. I believe his contract expires after this season with an option for 2014. Depends if he wants to stay with us (possibility) and how much flexibility Grant wants to give up to keep him.
KR1245
Posts: 4,317
Jan 26, 2013 12:42pm
It does. I cant imagine him being too expensive.Pick6;1375096 wrote:If we want to keep Speights, we will probably have to end up paying him. I believe his contract expires after this season with an option for 2014. Depends if he wants to stay with us (possibility) and how much flexibility Grant wants to give up to keep him.
You're right, Grant is stashing cash away for the big FA class in a couple years
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gport_tennis
Posts: 1,796
Jan 26, 2013 12:50pm
I think I read his option is 4.5 mill
mucalum49
Posts: 1,639
Jan 26, 2013 12:50pm
Same here but if we can add some more assets for his expiring contract I wouldn't hesitate trading him. Also, I'd like to see Ellington stick on the team. Seems capable to play a similar role and he's not undersized.KR1245;1375097 wrote:It sounds like Boobie and Casspi will probably be traded as well.
I'll pack Casspi's bags for him but I'd be sad to see Boobie go
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Jan 26, 2013 12:56pm
Unless we get a 1st rounder for him, no thanks on trading him. He fits nicely.Commander of Awesome;1375060 wrote:Glad to see Speights is playing well, I was pretty pumped about his addition. ESPN is reporting though that the Cavs may ship him out again in a trade before the deadline.
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gport_tennis
Posts: 1,796
Jan 26, 2013 12:58pm
What's his ceiling? Could he be another Andy v? Injury history? Could he be a starter on a top 5-6 team?
Mulva
Posts: 13,650
Jan 26, 2013 1:14pm
He isn't even close to the same type of player as Varejao.gport_tennis;1375116 wrote:What's his ceiling? Could he be another Andy v? Injury history? Could he be a starter on a top 5-6 team?
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Jan 26, 2013 1:17pm
I think they'll evaluate him (on more than just 1 game) with the team. If he fits like he seems he's going to, they'll pay him. If he's just going to be a decent guy to come off the bench, they'll try and trade him. My opinion
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Jan 26, 2013 2:05pm
Speights Contract is $4.5 mil and the Cavs are very close to salary cap floor. We have to spend some money, which makes shipping him out make even less sense.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Jan 26, 2013 2:15pm
[h=5]Terry Pluto
[/h][h=5]David Thorpe of Scouts INC and ESPN rates Waiters the top scorer among all NBA rookies:
Best scorer: Dion Waiters, Cavaliers
A scorer is someone who can create his own points, not just rely on others to get him open and then make uncontested shots. This is a weak class of scorers, but Waiters has proved he can put up big numbers when he gets rolling. He is the best in this class, but still has a long way to go to be both a productive and efficient scorer on a consistent basis.
Waiters has the requisite athletic, physical and ball skills to be a terrific partner to Kyrie Irving. They could form the most potent set of scoring guards in the league if Waiters figures out how to play the right way.
Runner-up: Lillard
The Blazers have a decent offense, but only because Lillard is not just trying to get the ball to his veteran teammates. He is always on the lookout for his own shot, able to get buckets inside and make open perimeter shots.[/h]
[/h][h=5]David Thorpe of Scouts INC and ESPN rates Waiters the top scorer among all NBA rookies:
Best scorer: Dion Waiters, Cavaliers
A scorer is someone who can create his own points, not just rely on others to get him open and then make uncontested shots. This is a weak class of scorers, but Waiters has proved he can put up big numbers when he gets rolling. He is the best in this class, but still has a long way to go to be both a productive and efficient scorer on a consistent basis.
Waiters has the requisite athletic, physical and ball skills to be a terrific partner to Kyrie Irving. They could form the most potent set of scoring guards in the league if Waiters figures out how to play the right way.
Runner-up: Lillard
The Blazers have a decent offense, but only because Lillard is not just trying to get the ball to his veteran teammates. He is always on the lookout for his own shot, able to get buckets inside and make open perimeter shots.[/h]
dazedconfused
Posts: 2,662
Jan 26, 2013 6:19pm
the bolded is the key. right now, him and kyrie play the same way lebron and wade did in their first year together - basically taking turns going one on one.like_that;1375171 wrote:Terry Pluto
David Thorpe of Scouts INC and ESPN rates Waiters the top scorer among all NBA rookies:
Best scorer: Dion Waiters, Cavaliers
A scorer is someone who can create his own points, not just rely on others to get him open and then make uncontested shots. This is a weak class of scorers, but Waiters has proved he can put up big numbers when he gets rolling. He is the best in this class, but still has a long way to go to be both a productive and efficient scorer on a consistent basis.
Waiters has the requisite athletic, physical and ball skills to be a terrific partner to Kyrie Irving. They could form the most potent set of scoring guards in the league if Waiters figures out how to play the right way.
Runner-up: Lillard
The Blazers have a decent offense, but only because Lillard is not just trying to get the ball to his veteran teammates. He is always on the lookout for his own shot, able to get buckets inside and make open perimeter shots.
also would like to see the cavs pick up the option on speights and not trade him. don't really see the downside in doing so - especially with them needing to spend to get to the floor
Rotinaj
Posts: 7,699
Jan 26, 2013 9:31pm
Speights with another good game and of course once again Kyrie fucking balls out.