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Nov 2, 2012 9:33 PM
Not only does Austin rivers suck, but now he maybe gave Anthony Davis a concussion.
Nov 2, 2012 9:33pm
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Nov 2, 2012 9:37 PM
sportswizuhrd;1310849 wrote:You totally confused me with this post. Indiana had the ball but Walker threw up a horrible shot?

As a UConn fan, I love seeing the boys succeed at the next level and I am really hoping that Walker and Thabeet have good years. I think for Thabeet it would be sticking with the Thunder all year. Walker might lead the team in scoring but they will continue to stink.

To end the previous possession
Nov 2, 2012 9:37pm
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Nov 2, 2012 9:40 PM
Harden is awful. 38 points on 19 shots with 3 minutes left.
Nov 2, 2012 9:40pm
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Nov 2, 2012 9:43 PM
Ironman92;1310848 wrote:The Magic take it to the Nuggets led by Glen Davis 29/10 and J.J. Redick 21/6/4
Both top 25 players.
Nov 2, 2012 9:43pm
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Nov 2, 2012 9:44 PM
lhslep134;1310857 wrote:Harden is awful. 38 points on 19 shots with 3 minutes left.

We need a Harden thread because this thread is ESPN-like saturated with the same shit.
Nov 2, 2012 9:44pm
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Nov 2, 2012 9:47 PM
42/6/2 now for Harden.

Give me Marc Gasol and Bynum over him all day. :laugh:
Nov 2, 2012 9:47pm
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Nov 2, 2012 9:47 PM
I'm done posting about it, I don't need to keep pointing out the obvious.
Nov 2, 2012 9:47pm
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Nov 2, 2012 9:55 PM
Automatik;1310862 wrote:42/6/2 now for Harden.

Give me Marc Gasol and Bynum over him all day. :laugh:
na bro, rudy gay all they way
Nov 2, 2012 9:55pm
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Nov 2, 2012 10:01 PM
Brandon Jennings must be elite he scored 55 and obviously 1 game means soooooo much on this board
Nov 2, 2012 10:01pm
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Nov 2, 2012 10:03 PM
Hb31187;1310875 wrote:Brandon Jennings must be elite he scored 55 and obviously 1 game means soooooo much on this board
You're implying that Jennings' game/skills/body of work somewhat compares to Harden's.

It doesn't.
Nov 2, 2012 10:03pm
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Nov 2, 2012 10:04 PM
Hb31187;1310875 wrote:Brandon Jennings must be elite he scored 55 and obviously 1 game means soooooo much on this board
Bro we get it, Harden stole your girlfriend. Get back to reality.
Nov 2, 2012 10:04pm
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Nov 2, 2012 10:06 PM
Automatik;1310878 wrote:You're implying that Jennings' game/skills/body of work somewhat compares to Harden's.

It doesn't.
hardens body of work averaging like 13 3 n 3 career? Yeah I bet Jennings has that down. He must be top 25
Nov 2, 2012 10:06pm
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Nov 2, 2012 10:07 PM
lhslep13l4;1310879 wrote:Bro we get it, Harden stole your girlfriend. Get back to reality.
bc I'm not sold on him being top 25 I'm unrealistic n have an unjustifiable hate for him eh?
Nov 2, 2012 10:07pm
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Nov 2, 2012 10:08 PM
Hb31187;1310881 wrote:hardens body of work averaging like 13 3 n 3 career? Yeah I bet Jennings has that down. He must be top 25
Now you're just being stupid. :laugh:
Nov 2, 2012 10:08pm
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Nov 2, 2012 10:09 PM
Hb31187;1310882 wrote:bc I'm not sold on him being top 25 I'm unrealistic n have an unjustifiable hate for him eh?

No, but you're acting like a child about it with posts like your Jennings one. I didn't say James Harden was top 25 because of one game I'm saying it because of last year this summer and what he's done so far is only proof of it.
Nov 2, 2012 10:09pm
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Nov 2, 2012 10:51 PM
Automatik;1310878 wrote:You're implying that Jennings' game/skills/body of work somewhat compares to Harden's.

It doesn't.
Brandon Jennings: 16.8 ppg, 5.4 apg, 3.5 rpg = Scrub, terrible body of work
James Harden: 12.8 ppg, 2.5 apg, 3.4 rpg = Top 25 player, great body of work

:laugh:
Nov 2, 2012 10:51pm
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Nov 2, 2012 10:58 PM
Interestingly enough, Brandon Jennings is 28 days YOUNGER than James Harden...
Nov 2, 2012 10:58pm
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Nov 2, 2012 11:02 PM
sleeper;1310903 wrote:Brandon Jennings: 16.8 ppg, 5.4 apg, 3.5 rpg = Scrub, terrible body of work
James Harden: 12.8 ppg, 2.5 apg, 3.4 rpg = Top 25 player, great body of work

:laugh:

Give me more, give me shots per game, fg%, ft%, steals, blocks, turnovers, and per 48 adjusted stats
Nov 2, 2012 11:02pm
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Nov 2, 2012 11:05 PM
gport_tennis;1310907 wrote:Give me more, give me shots per game, fg%, ft%, steals, blocks, turnovers, and per 48 adjusted stats
Here's a stat for you:
Brandon Jennings = Zero rings, total scrub, terrible body of work
James Harden = Zero rings, top 25 player, great body of work

Don't forget, Harden gets to go up against second stringers and has fresh legs
Jennings has to play against 1st teamers.
Nov 2, 2012 11:05pm
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Nov 2, 2012 11:08 PM
Jennings 15.5 FGAPG for career with 2.34:1 A/T ratio.
Harden with 8.7 FGAPG for career with 1.56:1 A/T ratio.

Jennings plays about 4 more minutes per game for his career.

Rebounds are dead even, Harden is slightly better from the line (83% to 81%) and Harden also shoots a bit over 2% higher from the 3-point line and 5% better from the field.

I think you can argue some of Harden's "mass stats" are undervalued because of who he played with. However, I also think some of his percentages may dip slightly. It's safe to say that his numbers in both scoring and assists are bound to go way up, which is why a direct comparison to Jennings as this year moves forward probably favors Harden.
Nov 2, 2012 11:08pm
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Nov 2, 2012 11:09 PM
Pretty embarrassing we have to dig as far back as Brandon Jennings as someone to compare James Harden to.
Nov 2, 2012 11:09pm
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Nov 2, 2012 11:13 PM
I'm abstaining from the back and forth but I think it's pretty clear Harden is the better player and has had the better and more efficient career. This argument, IMO, is just a matter of time as the gap is going to widen significantly in-terms of perception after this year. I actually thought Jennings would be better than he is.

In other news, the Kings haven't gotten any better. The Nuggets have gotten worse. The Eastern Conference is going to be Miami, Chicago and about 8-10 teams between 36-43 wins.

Finally, agreed on the Austin Rivers/Anthony Davis thing. Rivers is not only terrible, but he even takes out his own team MVP.
Nov 2, 2012 11:13pm
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Nov 2, 2012 11:16 PM
Eric Bledsoe can test free agency next year. I have a feeling he's going to be very highly coveted for a team looking for a potential All Star point guard. I can't see the Clips keeping him around with Paul just entering his prime.
Nov 2, 2012 11:16pm
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Nov 2, 2012 11:20 PM
I'm not knocking Jennings at all. I too thought he would be better. He came out fearless as a rookie then kinda fell off....doesn't help that his team is shite.

Regardless, I don't see how you could compare he and Harden unless just throwing out similar aged players for the hell of it.

Will Jennings get a max deal when his time comes? Doubtful.
Nov 2, 2012 11:20pm
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Nov 2, 2012 11:41 PM
I would take harden over Jennings as well. I was just pointing out someone similar in age and put up just as good of numbers. But isn't thought of to even sniff the top 25.
Nov 2, 2012 11:41pm