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Nov 2, 2012 4:10 PM
Why are people so incredibly high on him for not having accomplished much of anything? Hes a good player, real good....but ahead of some of those proven stars is pretty much laughable
Nov 2, 2012 4:10pm
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Nov 2, 2012 4:14 PM
Hb31187;1310702 wrote:Why are people so incredibly high on him for not having accomplished much of anything? e
Age and body of work so far.
Nov 2, 2012 4:14pm
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Nov 2, 2012 5:18 PM
I would remove Josh Smith and possible Joe Johnson from that list
Nov 2, 2012 5:18pm
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Nov 2, 2012 5:24 PM
Hb31187;1310696 wrote:Harden ahead of Melo Rose ect ect.....are you fully or just partially retarded?

Ahead of melo, yes. Ahead of a healthy rose, no. Rose won't be the same this year, I would for sure take harden this year, if rose comes back 100% by next year you probably take him.
Nov 2, 2012 5:24pm
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Nov 2, 2012 5:45 PM
Smh
Nov 2, 2012 5:45pm
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Nov 2, 2012 5:46 PM
Automatik;1310704 wrote:Age and body of work so far.
I guess. I mean I'm not saying hes not talented or anything. But the position on a list of NBA players that some have placed him at is kinda shocking to say the least lol
Nov 2, 2012 5:46pm
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Nov 2, 2012 6:26 PM
Hb31187;1310748 wrote:I guess. I mean I'm not saying hes not talented or anything. But the position on a list of NBA players that some have placed him at is kinda shocking to say the least lol
No, what's shocking is for someone to put Tim Duncan or Joe Johnson or Josh Smith or Rudy Gay ahead of Harden (okay, at this point Josh Smith's game is pretty damn well rounded so maybe exclude him).

When someone says someone is a top 25 player in the NBA they can mean one of 2 things: they have one of the 25 best career resumes/body of work in the league, or they are one of the 25 best basketball players in the league. There is definitely overlap in those 2 defintions, but not complete overlap.

James Harden does not fall into the former category. Anyone who says he doesn't fall in the latter is clearly unaware of how immensely talented he is and needs to watch him play more than just watching highlights (or lowlights).
Nov 2, 2012 6:26pm
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Nov 2, 2012 6:30 PM
I f'ed my back so I'm going to watch the Heat and Knicks and some of that Cavs game tonight.
Nov 2, 2012 6:30pm
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Nov 2, 2012 6:32 PM
lhslep134;1310759 wrote:No, what's shocking is for someone to put Tim Duncan or Joe Johnson or Josh Smith or Rudy Gay ahead of Harden (okay, at this point Josh Smith's game is pretty damn well rounded so maybe exclude him)
You think it's shocking to put Rudy Gay ahead of Harden? Seriously?

Your completely overvaluing him. Harden might make my top 25, but you're being ridiculous.
Nov 2, 2012 6:32pm
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Nov 2, 2012 7:27 PM
Mulva;1310766 wrote:You think it's shocking to put Rudy Gay ahead of Harden? Seriously?

Your completely overvaluing him. Harden might make my top 25, but you're being ridiculous.

I'm going to look at the stats tonight when I get home, but I am pretty sure that hardon have better numbers across the board last year except points when compared to Russell westbrook
Nov 2, 2012 7:27pm
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Nov 2, 2012 7:29 PM
gport_tennis;1310787 wrote:I'm going to look at the stats tonight when I get home, but I am pretty sure that hardon have better numbers across the board last year except points when compared to Russell westbrook
He didnt, It was close in rebounds n assists, but he didnt. I didnt look at steals blocks ect, just the main 3. Ppg,rpg,apg
Nov 2, 2012 7:29pm
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Nov 2, 2012 7:31 PM
lhslep134;1310759 wrote:No, what's shocking is for someone to put Tim Duncan or Joe Johnson or Josh Smith or Rudy Gay ahead of Harden (okay, at this point Josh Smith's game is pretty damn well rounded so maybe exclude him).

When someone says someone is a top 25 player in the NBA they can mean one of 2 things: they have one of the 25 best career resumes/body of work in the league, or they are one of the 25 best basketball players in the league. There is definitely overlap in those 2 defintions, but not complete overlap.

James Harden does not fall into the former category. Anyone who says he doesn't fall in the latter is clearly unaware of how immensely talented he is and needs to watch him play more than just watching highlights (or lowlights).
He may, MAY have the tools to be better than Gay. But to this point in their careers Gay has put up better numbers. Ill agree he has the talent to potentially surpass him, but until he does....doesnt really matter

I'll wait for Harden to play an entire season being "The Man" before I'm ready to proclaim him as being top 25 in the league.
Nov 2, 2012 7:31pm
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Nov 2, 2012 8:15 PM
Feltonsanity and Melo going off early. Knicks up 9 but game just started.
Nov 2, 2012 8:15pm
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Nov 2, 2012 8:30 PM
Melo with 16 points in the 1st quarter. The Heat have scored 17 points. Knicks lead 33-17 after 1.
Nov 2, 2012 8:30pm
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Nov 2, 2012 8:37 PM
Kemba Walker is having a good opener. 28 pts in the 3rd. Not that Charlotte has many other scoring options.
Nov 2, 2012 8:37pm
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Nov 2, 2012 8:37 PM
It's so annoying that the in arena announcer announces the score after every basket. I'm pretty sure people can see the score.
Nov 2, 2012 8:37pm
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Nov 2, 2012 8:37 PM
Mulva;1310816 wrote:Kemba Walker is having a good opener. 28 pts in the 3rd. Not that Charlotte has many other scoring options.

I was watching the first quarter. Mullens was playing well as well
Nov 2, 2012 8:37pm
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Nov 2, 2012 8:44 PM
Jason Kidd is worthless
Nov 2, 2012 8:44pm
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Nov 2, 2012 8:46 PM
Trueblue23;1310820 wrote:Jason Kidd is worthless
Jason Kidd is 47 years old.
Nov 2, 2012 8:46pm
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Nov 2, 2012 9:20 PM
Bobcats leading by 1 with 36 seconds
Nov 2, 2012 9:20pm
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Nov 2, 2012 9:22 PM
Indiana with ball, down 1 and 10 seconds left....Bobcats have 23 game losing streak

Horrible shot by Walker
Nov 2, 2012 9:22pm
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Nov 2, 2012 9:23 PM
Bobcats win!
Nov 2, 2012 9:23pm
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Nov 2, 2012 9:27 PM
The Magic take it to the Nuggets led by Glen Davis 29/10 and J.J. Redick 21/6/4
Nov 2, 2012 9:27pm
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Nov 2, 2012 9:27 PM
Ironman92;1310842 wrote:Indiana with ball, down 1 and 10 seconds left....Bobcats have 23 game losing streak

Horrible shot by Walker
You totally confused me with this post. Indiana had the ball but Walker threw up a horrible shot?

As a UConn fan, I love seeing the boys succeed at the next level and I am really hoping that Walker and Thabeet have good years. I think for Thabeet it would be sticking with the Thunder all year. Walker might lead the team in scoring but they will continue to stink.
Nov 2, 2012 9:27pm
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Nov 2, 2012 9:29 PM
BJ Mullens 0-6 from 23 feet.
Nov 2, 2012 9:29pm