isadore;1228512 wrote:there was that and starvation.
Read the post above. Everyone had the same choices available to themisadore;1228513 wrote:no there weren't
children are not responsible for their parents procreation decisions. Corporations advertised encouraging immigration and promising much. millions lacked the skill or resources to leave the metropolitan area or to farm and land was rising in price and diminishing in availability.Con_Alma;1228659 wrote:no one needed to work for a corporation
1. limit procreation on the family farms so that the farm could provide enough to sustain living
2. Do not immigrate to the US.
3. leave the major metropolitan area seeking our land to live of of.
They chose poorly.
Responsibility wasn't never mentioned in my post with regards to procreation. That doesn't mean the through choice, ramifications unfolded. Procreation was one of them. They chose poorly.isadore;1228730 wrote:children are not responsible for their parents procreation decisions. Corporations advertised encouraging immigration and promising much. millions lacked the skill or resources to leave the metropolitan area or to farm and land was rising in price and diminishing in availability.
they had no choice, they were presented with the problem of overpopulation.Con_Alma;1228963 wrote:Responsibility wasn't never mentioned in my post with regards to procreation. That doesn't mean the through choice, ramifications unfolded. Procreation was one of them. They chose poorly.
They did have choices. We are not restricted with regards to residency in this country.isadore;1229048 wrote:they had no choice, they were presented with the problem of overpopulation.
if you have no money, no applicable skills and no support system you have no choice.Con_Alma;1229051 wrote:They did have choices. We are not restricted with regards to residency in this country.
There are always choices. People don't always like those choices.
They chose poorly.
I disagree.isadore;1229126 wrote:if you have no money, no applicable skills and no support system you have no choice.
again your family's history is both interesting and admireable but it is not definitive for the life choices of million of others. Support system, family situation, skill level for millions of others was not the same. they had no real choices but the factory.Con_Alma;1229166 wrote:I disagree.
You don't need money. For example, my grandparents didn't know how they were going to eat each day the woke up. They had nothing and yet they traveld from the East Coast to Ohio...sometimes by simply walking. While bringing a child who was old 1 year old....my father.
There's always a choice. Those people made their decision and it turned out to be a poor one when considering they place the security of their family in someone elses hands.
It's not definitive...it's an example. Everyone had a choice ...either leave or stay. It doesn't' take skill or money. All it takes is a decision. They chose poorly.isadore;1229381 wrote:again your family's history is both interesting and admireable but it is not definitive for the life choices of million of others. Support system, family situation, skill level for millions of others was not the same. they had no real choices but the factory.
a choice between starving and working for a corporation because of a lack of skill, money or support.Con_Alma;1229633 wrote:It's not definitive...it's an example. Everyone had a choice ...either leave or stay. It doesn't' take skill or money. All it takes is a decision. They chose poorly.
Well, I guess that's one choice.isadore;1229685 wrote:a choice between starving and working for a corporation because of a lack of skill, money or support.
I've been saying that all along. They chose poorly.isadore;1229808 wrote:you are right that working for a soulless exploitive entity is not a good choice...
gosh a ruddies I am glad we agree on the soulless exploitation of the soulless, conscienceless entities known as corporations. When you add all those lacks together millions had no real alternative to work for corporations in the post bellum era.Con_Alma;1229943 wrote:I've been saying that all along. They chose poorly.
Even without support, resources and skills, they still had options. They weren't easy options.
Those people chose poorly.
they had one other real choice, starvation. they choice was not to starve.Con_Alma;1230355 wrote:Everyone has an alternative. They choose not to act on them. No one has to ever work for a corporation. People choose to. Often times it's a poor choice.
I disagree. Everyone had the choice to leave the city. Everyone.isadore;1230410 wrote:they had one other real choice, starvation. they choice was not to starve.
no they can not. they had no choice. Gosh without support and advise I sure could get land to produce the food to support myself. most people in our society right now could not get land to produce the food to support themselves. I lack the skills as many do. Many others lack the resources to acquire land.Con_Alma;1230414 wrote:I disagree. Everyone had the choice to leave the city. Everyone.
All people can produce food on land and support them selves. People need not put their security in the hands of a company. They chose to stay.
They chose poorly.
so you have a few that band together and share knowledge and resources because they lack the knowledge and resources on their own. For millions of others they also lacked the skills and resources. And they did not have the situation that allowed them to band together in a way to support themselves.Con_Alma;1230433 wrote:Maybe you didn't read the sentence very clearly. I have example(s).
When people need the basics of life for survival, they are capable of miraculous things. The seek out others. they band together and travel and move about to find what they need. No one was made to move to the city. No one was forced to stayi n the city. People had choices.
Some chose poorly.
Who said a few? Those are your words not mine.isadore;1230442 wrote:so you have a few that band together and share knowledge and resources because they lack the knowledge and resources on their own. For millions of others they also lacked the skills and resources. And they did not have the situation that allowed them to band together in a way to support themselves.