Con_Alma;1246267 wrote:...and yet they truly exist and exist different from people. They are real. They are not people.

isadore;1246291 wrote:as I stated power ultimately belongs to the people

isadore;1246292 wrote:they are artifical creations of government with the economic rights of a person.

Con_Alma;1246885 wrote:..then how come I still can't do what I want like you said I could?

Con_Alma;1246888 wrote:The are very real. They exist. They function with different economic capabilities and different limitations that an individual.

isadore;1247741 wrote:the people are the ultimate power.

isadore;1247745 wrote:they are creations of government, artifical entities given the economic rights of a person.

Con_Alma;1248192 wrote:..then how come I still can't do what I want like you said I could?

Why do you just keep repeating who has power?

I can't do what I want and you said I could. You're wrong about that.

Con_Alma;1248194 wrote:The economic rights of a corporation ad a person are different.

Who created a corporation is irrelevant. They exist. if they didn't there's no "economic rights" being realized.

isadore;1248258 wrote:corporatation is an artifical creation of government that are endowed with the economic rights of a person.

isadore;1248255 wrote:I am just guessing now, but I think you are one of the people. so be involved in our representative democracy that allow the people to ultimately determine the laws.

isadore;1248258 wrote:corporatation is an artifical creation of government that are endowed with the economic rights of a person.

Con_Alma;1248475 wrote:One being involved doesn't change anything legislatively as you know. The collective does through representation. That results in me not being able to do what I want like you previously posted.

Con_Alma;1248477 wrote:Just because they have economic rights doesn't mean they are the same as a person. They are not.

It's an actual creation as opposed to an artificial creation. It does exist.

isadore;1248822 wrote:artifical flowers are real, corporations can hire, like people, fire, like people, make contracts like people, borrow like people, lend like people....

isadore;1248819 wrote:since people have the ultimate power and you seemingly are part of the people, working with your fellow members of the citizenry can determine the laws we live by.

Con_Alma;1249028 wrote:...and those citizens have determine that I can't do what I want as you previously stated. There's nothing I can do to change that as an individual because it would be in opposition to the collective.

Con_Alma;1249027 wrote:Corporations have different abilities and protections than a person does. Just because soe things may be the same doesn't make them all the same. Lol they are very different.

Corporations are real not artificial. There's nothing artificial about them. Your artificial flower example has no correlation whatsoever. Fake flowers are a copy of something else. A corporation is not. It's it's own entity.

isadore;1249068 wrote:of course as an individual you can exercise freedom of speech to effect the people's ultimate power over the law's of our nation.

isadore;1249071 wrote:artifical flowers are given some characteristic of flowers, corporations are given the economic characteristics of a person by the government.

Con_Alma;1249092 wrote:Exercising freedom f speech doesn't mean I can do what I want as you previously stated.

Con_Alma;1249096 wrote:This statement doesn't lend to or verify that corporations are artificial. They are not "fake" and they do exist. In addition, the economic abilities of a corporation are very different of that of an individual.

isadore;1249117 wrote:the people of whom you are seemingly apart are the ultimate power, you can use your freedom of speech to change law.

isadore;1249120 wrote:they are artifical entities given the economic rights of a person by government.

Con_Alma;1249135 wrote:Freedom of speech doesn't necessarily change the law. You shouldn't assume I haven't already nor am not currently using my freedom of speech to do so.

The legislative process has determined I can't do what I want as you previously stated....even with my free speech efforts.