wildcats20
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Jul 4, 2012 8:52pm
I'm seeing that Howard has said he has wanted to play with Nash for a long time.hoops23;1218499 wrote:That was the key. They didn't give up much. The Lakers' picks would have been late round picks anyway. Nash is a true PG and I think Kobe will be able to rest himself more during games.
And fuck Dwight. Keep Bynum...
Dwight doesn't want to play in LA because he doesn't want to be accused of following in Shaq's footsteps.
hoops23
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Jul 4, 2012 8:54pm
And Howard's one team was New Jersey... Then it was the Mavs... Then he would be ok with staying with the Magic for another year...wildcats20;1218505 wrote:I'm seeing that Howard has said he has wanted to play with Nash for a long time.
Dude is a joke.
jordo212000
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Jul 4, 2012 8:54pm
hoops23;1218499 wrote:That was the key. They didn't give up much. The Lakers' picks would have been late round picks anyway. Nash is a true PG and I think Kobe will be able to rest himself more during games.
And fuck Dwight. Keep Bynum...
Dwight doesn't want to play in LA because he doesn't want to be accused of following in Shaq's footsteps.
I don't think I would want Howard on my team at this point. Dude is a POS
wildcats20
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Jul 4, 2012 8:55pm
Also, I'm pumped for Kendall. Ready to ball out in the desert.
jordo212000
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Jul 4, 2012 8:55pm
hoops23;1218502 wrote:I thought you liked Mike Brown?
Brown is a great coach, but his system doesn't fit with Nash
hoops23
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Jul 4, 2012 8:57pm
He's a "GREAT" coach?jordo212000;1218510 wrote:Brown is a great coach, but his system doesn't fit with Nash
Interesting.
jordo212000
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Jul 4, 2012 8:57pm
hoops23;1218506 wrote:And Howard's one team was New Jersey... Then it was the Mavs... Then he would be ok with staying with the Magic for another year...
Dude is a joke.
Since you typed this, Howard has changed his mind again.
jordo212000
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Jul 4, 2012 9:00pm
hoops23;1218512 wrote:He's a "GREAT" coach?
Interesting.
Win percentage of 66%, so yeaaah, he's a good coach
wildcats20
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Jul 4, 2012 9:02pm
Now he's just a good coach?jordo212000;1218515 wrote:Win percentage of 66%, so yeaaah, he's a good coach
hoops23
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Jul 4, 2012 9:02pm
Ohhh... So winning percentage is the only thing that matters? NVM the fact that he's walked into 2 GREAT jobs at the time. Funny you weren't singing the "great" tune while he was in Cleveland, IIRC.jordo212000;1218515 wrote:Win percentage of 66%, so yeaaah, he's a good coach
And is he great or good?
wildcats20
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Jul 4, 2012 9:06pm
Soooooo apparently Nash will be trying to get Grant Hill to come to LA also....
http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/story/_/id/8130840/sources-steve-nash-headed-los-angeles-lakers-sign-trade-deal
http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/story/_/id/8130840/sources-steve-nash-headed-los-angeles-lakers-sign-trade-deal
jordo212000
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Jul 4, 2012 9:06pm
hoops23;1218522 wrote:Ohhh... So winning percentage is the only thing that matters? NVM the fact that he's walked into 2 GREAT jobs at the time. Funny you weren't singing the "great" tune while he was in Cleveland, IIRC.
And is he great or good?
If Gilbert / Ferry / Grant could have surrounded Lebron with more talent while he was in Cleveland, they would have won 2 titles. Surrounding Lebron with Jamison, Hughes and Shaq isn't getting it done.
wildcats20
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Jul 4, 2012 9:07pm
Oh and it's Nash for 4 picks. I wonder if Stern will allow it....
hoops23
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Jul 4, 2012 9:10pm
Yeah, it's easy to do that. Talent just always makes itself available.jordo212000;1218532 wrote:If Gilbert / Ferry / Grant could have surrounded Lebron with more talent while he was in Cleveland, they would have won 2 titles. Surrounding Lebron with Jamison, Hughes and Shaq isn't getting it done.
Not only that, but Mike Brown had Kobe, Pau, and Bynum... What did that get him?
Oh, and those were LeBron approved moves. The FO catered to him and learned a hard lesson. And Grant had nothing to do with those moves.
wildcats20
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Jul 4, 2012 9:11pm
I like the potential pick up of Grant Hill too. He just had the same surgery Kobe had and he still plays at a high level. Somehow lol.
hoops23
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Jul 4, 2012 9:15pm
Grant Hill is still very good. He's a better version of Shane Battier right now because he can do more than spot up. His body is still probably younger than what his NBA years would indicate because of all the time missed.wildcats20;1218544 wrote:I like the potential pick up of Grant Hill too. He just had the same surgery Kobe had and he still plays at a high level. Somehow lol.
wildcats20
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Jul 4, 2012 9:16pm
Yes and he is a HUGE upgrade from Metta at the 3.hoops23;1218550 wrote:Grant Hill is still very good. He's a better version of Shane Battier right now because he can do more than spot up. His body is still probably younger than what his NBA years would indicate because of all the time missed.
hoops23
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Jul 4, 2012 9:17pm
No doubt. More consistent and 1000x more stable mentally.wildcats20;1218552 wrote:Yes and he is a HUGE upgrade from Metta at the 3.
wildcats20
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Jul 4, 2012 9:18pm
And at this point in their careers, equals on the defensive end.hoops23;1218554 wrote:No doubt. More consistent and 1000x more stable mentally.
wildcats20
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Jul 4, 2012 9:20pm
lol and it starts.
I've now seen 4 tweets talking about Kobe and Nash's age.
I've now seen 4 tweets talking about Kobe and Nash's age.
Trueblue23
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Jul 4, 2012 9:25pm
If Dwight re-signs trade Bynum and whatever for him now. Magic have said Byum is their main target.
Also Steve Nash fits in any system... And Brown has no system. We're gonna see alot of pick and roll, Kobe post up, Nash making things happen.
Also Steve Nash fits in any system... And Brown has no system. We're gonna see alot of pick and roll, Kobe post up, Nash making things happen.
Terry_Tate
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Jul 4, 2012 9:26pm
hoops23;1218550 wrote:Grant Hill is still very good. He's a better version of Shane Battier right now because he can do more than spot up. His body is still probably younger than what his NBA years would indicate because of all the time missed.
I don't watch a ton of NBA, but there is just no way I believe Grant Hill is still very good. Unless you're talking like a solid 20-25 off the bench. Dude is almost 40, lol.
wildcats20
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Jul 4, 2012 9:27pm
Not to be an ass, but you should have stopped after saying that.Terry_Tate;1218565 wrote:I don't watch a ton of NBA, but there is just no way I believe Grant Hill is still very good. Unless you're talking like a solid 20-25 off the bench. Dude is almost 40, lol.
I'm not expecting anything phenomenal out of Grant Hill, but 13 and 5 would be an instant upgrade from Metta.
Trueblue23
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Jul 4, 2012 9:32pm
Howard's lack of offensive moves would be negated by Nash. Think Amare..
Terry_Tate
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Jul 4, 2012 10:10pm
wildcats20;1218566 wrote:Not to be an ass, but you should have stopped after saying that.
I'm not expecting anything phenomenal out of Grant Hill, but 13 and 5 would be an instant upgrade from Metta.
I hope the Lakers miss the playoffs.
But seriously, when I hear that Grant Hill is very good Im thinking at least 16 and 6. Then I look up his stats and he averaged 10.5 and 3.5 last year, which isn't bad at all given his age, just not what I would call very good. I don't doubt that there are a few stretches where he looks good and I know he has a high basketball IQ, I just thought the very good talk was Laker homerism.
And he's an instant upgrade over MWP just from the mental standpoint alone.