Archive 2012 NBA Offseason

ohiobucks1

Posts: 4,915

Jul 19, 2012 3:21pm

Yeah, I think the nets will be great...at least in the same comparison as the bulls were this year.

Although when I say great I mean around 40+ wins.

and edit for whatever that translates to a full season of.

So I guess I'd say around 55-60

like_that

Posts: 26,625

Jul 19, 2012 3:22pm

ohiobucks1;1229208 wrote:Yeah, I think the nets will be great.

Although when I say great I mean around 43-48 wins.

Yeah, that's not great. Especially with an actual full season.

Laley23

Posts: 29,506

Jul 19, 2012 3:23pm

ohiobucks1;1229208 wrote:Yeah, I think the nets will be great.

Although when I say great I mean around 40+ wins.

haha, no offense, but at 40 they will be UNDER .500. I know you said 40+, but still.

ohiobucks1

Posts: 4,915

Jul 19, 2012 3:24pm

lol I'm retarded.

55+ wins in a full NBA season

like_that

Posts: 26,625

Jul 19, 2012 3:26pm

ohiobucks1;1229211 wrote:lol I'm retarded.

55+ wins in a full NBA season

Def don't see that happening. I see them in the 45-52 range.

swoosh

Posts: 303

Jul 19, 2012 3:26pm

I see them as a 4-6 seed.

Laley23

Posts: 29,506

Jul 19, 2012 3:27pm

ohiobucks1;1229211 wrote:lol I'm retarded.

55+ wins in a full NBA season

haha, ok. If they get to 55+ Ill come back here and agree they had a great season. I dont see it though.

I think they will compete for the 4 seed. I have Heat 1, Pacers 2 and Celtics 3. Bulls up there higher if Rose comes back earlier and healthy.

swoosh

Posts: 303

Jul 19, 2012 3:28pm

Laley23;1229215 wrote:haha, ok. If they get to 55+ Ill come back here and agree they had a great season. I dont see it though.

I think they will compete for the 4 seed. I have Heat 1, Pacers 2 and Celtics 3. Bulls up there higher if Rose comes back earlier and healthy.

If Rose misses most of the season, I don't even see them in the playoffs.

Laley23

Posts: 29,506

Jul 19, 2012 3:29pm

swoosh;1229217 wrote:If Rose misses most of the season, I don't even see them in the playoffs.

I can see them really struggling. But even without Rose, they have a Reg. Season type team. They play defense and are grinders/battle tested. They are not good without Rose, but they still manage to win enough.

that said, nothing would surprise me if he is out most of the year.

wildcats20

Posts: 27,794

Jul 19, 2012 3:34pm

Isn't Rose expected back around the first of the year?

Pick6

Posts: 14,946

Jul 19, 2012 3:35pm

The Nets signing Joe Johnson isnt scaring anybody. Probably a lower seeded playoff team

Laley23

Posts: 29,506

Jul 19, 2012 3:36pm

wildcats20;1229222 wrote:Isn't Rose expected back around the first of the year?

Last I heard was he wasnt recovering all that quickly. I heard end of February. Granted, that was like 2 months ago.

Commander of Awesome

Posts: 23,151

Jul 19, 2012 3:37pm

I've heard Feb as well.

wildcats20

Posts: 27,794

Jul 19, 2012 3:38pm

Ok. I swore at one time I heard that. Probably was an original prognosis.

Laley23

Posts: 29,506

Jul 19, 2012 3:43pm

wildcats20;1229229 wrote:Ok. I swore at one time I heard that. Probably was an original prognosis.

I think initially they thought that, cause people have been recovering around 6 months recently (if you are a pro athlete with all the help in the world). But something about Rose wasnt going quick and they think its gonna be closer to the typical 9 months.

ohiobucks1

Posts: 4,915

Jul 19, 2012 4:34pm

Hey.. .I'm by no means an expert lol I just have this feeling the Nets will win 55.

We'll see!

Commander of Awesome

Posts: 23,151

Jul 19, 2012 4:35pm

If Lopez stays healthy, in the shitty Eastern Conference I could see it. I'm a bigger fan of Deron Williams than most though.

osu45804

Posts: 6,188

Jul 19, 2012 4:40pm

Boston sends JaJuan Johnson to Houston for Courtney Lee

Edit: Celtics will send E'Twaun Moore, JaJuan Johnson, Sean Williams & a 2nd rd pick in for Courtney Lee

BigAppleBuckeye

Posts: 2,935

Jul 19, 2012 5:25pm

Pick6;1229224 wrote:The Nets signing Joe Johnson isnt scaring anybody. Probably a lower seeded playoff team

The Joe Johnson move was the primary reason that DWill stayed, so I am 100% in favor of it, despite the crazy contract.

The Nets did exactly (well, without Howard, maybe not 100% exactly) what they set out to do: have a playoff team in their first season in Brooklyn and ... piss off the Knicks. Really like their roster, and if they get into the 2nd round after being a turd for several years, I'll take it. Really love their offseason moves, including one that hasn't gotten a ton of play: I think Mirza Teletovic can be a sneaky pickup, he was dominant in Europe.

PS, the Barclays Center is going to be sweet. I had wondered how they would wedge an arena into the corner of Atlantic and Flatbush Avenues (two major streets in Brooklyn), but the design is sharp:

lhslep134

Posts: 9,774

Jul 19, 2012 5:40pm

Commander of Awesome;1229310 wrote:. I'm a bigger fan of Deron Williams than most though.

I'm with you. I think he's underrated in the sense that people don't really realize how awesome he really is. They know he's great, but not really great.

wildcats20

Posts: 27,794

Jul 19, 2012 5:58pm

lhslep134;1229348 wrote:I'm with you. I think he's underrated in the sense that people don't really realize how awesome he really is. They know he's great, but not really great.

Same here.

hoops23

Posts: 15,696

Jul 19, 2012 6:22pm

Deron is the best PG in the game, IMO. Until Kyrie takes the spot.

Commander of Awesome

Posts: 23,151

Jul 19, 2012 7:50pm

hoops23;1229365 wrote:Deron is the best PG in the game, IMO. Until Kyrie takes the spot.

I'm with you hoops, I was being a pussy and didn't want to say it (bc of the Rose and CP3 love) but I'd take him first overall in a PG draft. That being said, CP3 and Rose are awesome. Deron IMO on his game is the best of the bunch.

bigdaddy2003

Posts: 7,384

Jul 19, 2012 7:51pm

I'm a Rondo guy personally as far as pure point guards go.

Mulva

Posts: 13,650

Jul 19, 2012 8:05pm

I've said D-Will was the best PG in the game for a few years now.

I think him and CP3 are close though, and honestly putting one above the other might depend on the players around them (the overall fit with their team).