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Jul 4, 2012 8:52 PM
hoops23;1218499 wrote:That was the key. They didn't give up much. The Lakers' picks would have been late round picks anyway. Nash is a true PG and I think Kobe will be able to rest himself more during games.

And fuck Dwight. Keep Bynum...

Dwight doesn't want to play in LA because he doesn't want to be accused of following in Shaq's footsteps.
I'm seeing that Howard has said he has wanted to play with Nash for a long time.
Jul 4, 2012 8:52pm
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Jul 4, 2012 8:54 PM
wildcats20;1218505 wrote:I'm seeing that Howard has said he has wanted to play with Nash for a long time.
And Howard's one team was New Jersey... Then it was the Mavs... Then he would be ok with staying with the Magic for another year...

Dude is a joke.
Jul 4, 2012 8:54pm
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Jul 4, 2012 8:54 PM
hoops23;1218499 wrote:That was the key. They didn't give up much. The Lakers' picks would have been late round picks anyway. Nash is a true PG and I think Kobe will be able to rest himself more during games.

And fuck Dwight. Keep Bynum...

Dwight doesn't want to play in LA because he doesn't want to be accused of following in Shaq's footsteps.

I don't think I would want Howard on my team at this point. Dude is a POS
Jul 4, 2012 8:54pm
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Jul 4, 2012 8:55 PM
Also, I'm pumped for Kendall. Ready to ball out in the desert.
Jul 4, 2012 8:55pm
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Jul 4, 2012 8:55 PM
hoops23;1218502 wrote:I thought you liked Mike Brown?

Brown is a great coach, but his system doesn't fit with Nash
Jul 4, 2012 8:55pm
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Jul 4, 2012 8:57 PM
jordo212000;1218510 wrote:Brown is a great coach, but his system doesn't fit with Nash
He's a "GREAT" coach?

Interesting.
Jul 4, 2012 8:57pm
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Jul 4, 2012 8:57 PM
hoops23;1218506 wrote:And Howard's one team was New Jersey... Then it was the Mavs... Then he would be ok with staying with the Magic for another year...

Dude is a joke.

Since you typed this, Howard has changed his mind again.
Jul 4, 2012 8:57pm
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Jul 4, 2012 9:00 PM
hoops23;1218512 wrote:He's a "GREAT" coach?

Interesting.

Win percentage of 66%, so yeaaah, he's a good coach
Jul 4, 2012 9:00pm
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Jul 4, 2012 9:02 PM
jordo212000;1218515 wrote:Win percentage of 66%, so yeaaah, he's a good coach
Now he's just a good coach?
Jul 4, 2012 9:02pm
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Jul 4, 2012 9:02 PM
jordo212000;1218515 wrote:Win percentage of 66%, so yeaaah, he's a good coach
Ohhh... So winning percentage is the only thing that matters? NVM the fact that he's walked into 2 GREAT jobs at the time. Funny you weren't singing the "great" tune while he was in Cleveland, IIRC.

And is he great or good?
Jul 4, 2012 9:02pm
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Jul 4, 2012 9:06 PM
hoops23;1218522 wrote:Ohhh... So winning percentage is the only thing that matters? NVM the fact that he's walked into 2 GREAT jobs at the time. Funny you weren't singing the "great" tune while he was in Cleveland, IIRC.

And is he great or good?

If Gilbert / Ferry / Grant could have surrounded Lebron with more talent while he was in Cleveland, they would have won 2 titles. Surrounding Lebron with Jamison, Hughes and Shaq isn't getting it done.
Jul 4, 2012 9:06pm
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Jul 4, 2012 9:07 PM
Oh and it's Nash for 4 picks. I wonder if Stern will allow it....
Jul 4, 2012 9:07pm
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Jul 4, 2012 9:10 PM
jordo212000;1218532 wrote:If Gilbert / Ferry / Grant could have surrounded Lebron with more talent while he was in Cleveland, they would have won 2 titles. Surrounding Lebron with Jamison, Hughes and Shaq isn't getting it done.
Yeah, it's easy to do that. Talent just always makes itself available.

Not only that, but Mike Brown had Kobe, Pau, and Bynum... What did that get him?

Oh, and those were LeBron approved moves. The FO catered to him and learned a hard lesson. And Grant had nothing to do with those moves.
Jul 4, 2012 9:10pm
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Jul 4, 2012 9:11 PM
I like the potential pick up of Grant Hill too. He just had the same surgery Kobe had and he still plays at a high level. Somehow lol.
Jul 4, 2012 9:11pm
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Jul 4, 2012 9:15 PM
wildcats20;1218544 wrote:I like the potential pick up of Grant Hill too. He just had the same surgery Kobe had and he still plays at a high level. Somehow lol.
Grant Hill is still very good. He's a better version of Shane Battier right now because he can do more than spot up. His body is still probably younger than what his NBA years would indicate because of all the time missed.
Jul 4, 2012 9:15pm
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Jul 4, 2012 9:16 PM
hoops23;1218550 wrote:Grant Hill is still very good. He's a better version of Shane Battier right now because he can do more than spot up. His body is still probably younger than what his NBA years would indicate because of all the time missed.
Yes and he is a HUGE upgrade from Metta at the 3.
Jul 4, 2012 9:16pm
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Jul 4, 2012 9:17 PM
wildcats20;1218552 wrote:Yes and he is a HUGE upgrade from Metta at the 3.
No doubt. More consistent and 1000x more stable mentally.
Jul 4, 2012 9:17pm
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Jul 4, 2012 9:18 PM
hoops23;1218554 wrote:No doubt. More consistent and 1000x more stable mentally.
And at this point in their careers, equals on the defensive end.
Jul 4, 2012 9:18pm
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Jul 4, 2012 9:20 PM
lol and it starts.

I've now seen 4 tweets talking about Kobe and Nash's age.
Jul 4, 2012 9:20pm
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Jul 4, 2012 9:25 PM
If Dwight re-signs trade Bynum and whatever for him now. Magic have said Byum is their main target.

Also Steve Nash fits in any system... And Brown has no system. We're gonna see alot of pick and roll, Kobe post up, Nash making things happen.
Jul 4, 2012 9:25pm
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Jul 4, 2012 9:26 PM
hoops23;1218550 wrote:Grant Hill is still very good. He's a better version of Shane Battier right now because he can do more than spot up. His body is still probably younger than what his NBA years would indicate because of all the time missed.

I don't watch a ton of NBA, but there is just no way I believe Grant Hill is still very good. Unless you're talking like a solid 20-25 off the bench. Dude is almost 40, lol.
Jul 4, 2012 9:26pm
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Jul 4, 2012 9:27 PM
Terry_Tate;1218565 wrote:I don't watch a ton of NBA, but there is just no way I believe Grant Hill is still very good. Unless you're talking like a solid 20-25 off the bench. Dude is almost 40, lol.
Not to be an ass, but you should have stopped after saying that.


I'm not expecting anything phenomenal out of Grant Hill, but 13 and 5 would be an instant upgrade from Metta.
Jul 4, 2012 9:27pm
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Jul 4, 2012 9:32 PM
Howard's lack of offensive moves would be negated by Nash. Think Amare..
Jul 4, 2012 9:32pm
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Jul 4, 2012 10:10 PM
wildcats20;1218566 wrote:Not to be an ass, but you should have stopped after saying that.


I'm not expecting anything phenomenal out of Grant Hill, but 13 and 5 would be an instant upgrade from Metta.

I hope the Lakers miss the playoffs. :)

But seriously, when I hear that Grant Hill is very good Im thinking at least 16 and 6. Then I look up his stats and he averaged 10.5 and 3.5 last year, which isn't bad at all given his age, just not what I would call very good. I don't doubt that there are a few stretches where he looks good and I know he has a high basketball IQ, I just thought the very good talk was Laker homerism.

And he's an instant upgrade over MWP just from the mental standpoint alone.
Jul 4, 2012 10:10pm