sherm03;1209089 wrote:I agree that you have to look at the whole body of work. If you have two teams that you trying to decide between for a playoff spot...one is a one-loss B1G conference champ, and the other is a one-loss Big 12 runner-up...I am OK with giving the edge to the conference champ.

I am just against requiring that all members of the playoffs be conference champions because of all the reasons and hypotheticals I listed. Put the best four teams in the playoffs...not the best four conference champions.

Sonofanump;1209091 wrote:Do you really think that putting two SEC schools in a four team playoff every year is going to fly with the PAC, B1G and B12? If they get bumped by a lesser conference like the ACC or Big Least champion because of an upset in the CC game, then I could see them accepting that.

Four 16 team super conferences would end all of this speculation.

Sonofanump;1209091 wrote:Do you really think that putting two SEC schools in a four team playoff every year is going to fly with the PAC, B1G and B12? If they get bumped by a lesser conference like the ACC or Big Least champion because of an upset in the CC game, then I could see them accepting that.

Four 16 team super conferences would end all of this speculation.

sleeper;1209055 wrote:Luckily, the SEC is still 3rd in Titles in college football history. Also, pretty easy to win every year when your two teams are fraudulently pitted against each other in the title game. Alabama and LSU would both lose by 2 TDs to OKST last year; but instead we got fraud.

slcoach;1209112 wrote:What a load of shit....You are telling me that if you were Wisconsin this season with 2 losses you would have been more upset getting bumped out by Clemson than Alabama? If you honestly believe that then there is no use in talking to you.

Sonofanump;1209129 wrote:Then why do you respond if you are so much better than I am.

slcoach;1209115 wrote:Prove it....as you told me yesterday, you can't so I'm right.

sleeper;1209154 wrote:OK State is just simply the better team. Anyone who thinks otherwise is probably a homo, not saying you are, but probably.

Sonofanump;1209214 wrote:Odd that a 10-3 ACC team would be considered before a 11-2 B1G team. I don't see the logic with that.

Sykotyk;1208936 wrote:The process to determine the 'champion' is a season-long process. It doesn't just start the second week of December. Alabama had their chance last year when they played LSU in the regular season game in an attempt to win their division. They failed. LSU won it. They moved on. Alabama, no matter how good, lost. The season is a playoff. IN EVERY LEAGUE where not all teams qualify for the playoffs.


Alabama knew the setup when they started play. To get to the SEC title game, they had to win their division. To win it last year, they had to be better than five other teams who they played head-to-head. No polls, ratings, etc. They came in second. We know that as an irrefutable fact. They were, at best, second to LSU. The problem is how certain people were that Alabama was better than OSU, Oregon, etc. I mean, if you anoint LSU as the best, and Alabama's only loss was to 'The Best', then obviously their loss is better than any other loss by a one-loss team. It smacks in the face of credibility. It's a self-fulfilling prophecy. We will never know of OSU could've beaten LSU. Or even Alabama. They never got a chance to play. Alabama did get a chance to play. One chance. They lost.

The season is a playoff. Every game factors into you advancing or not to the 'next round'. Alabama lost in the first round, the 12-game regular season. LSU made it to the second round (conference title game) and third round (title game). They should've been able to play another team making that same sort of advancement. Instead, Alabama got to take a round off and play them again.

Usually getting time off while other teams are playing is reserved to the best team in the form of a bye. Not a losing team getting a rematch with the team that beat them.

Sonofanump;1209258 wrote:If for some reason they used last year as a basis even though not all conferences would have had a conference championship game and only conference champions would be allowed, here would be the order:

1 LSU 13-0
3 Oklahoma State 11-1
5 Oregon 11-2
10 Wisconsin 11-2
15 Clemson 10-3
18 TCU 10-2
19 Houston 12-1
23 West Virginia 9-3


Not sure if only four are going in, how Clemson would skip Wisconsin. Not sure why Va Tech would skip either school.

Sonofanump;1209258 wrote:If for some reason they used last year as a basis even though not all conferences would have had a conference championship game and only conference champions would be allowed, here would be the order:

1 LSU 13-0
3 Oklahoma State 11-1
5 Oregon 11-2
10 Wisconsin 11-2
15 Clemson 10-3
18 TCU 10-2
19 Houston 12-1
23 West Virginia 9-3


Not sure if only four are going in, how Clemson would skip Wisconsin. Not sure why Va Tech would skip either school.

Sonofanump;1209258 wrote:If for some reason they used last year as a basis even though not all conferences would have had a conference championship game and only conference champions would be allowed, here would be the order:

1 LSU 13-0
3 Oklahoma State 11-1
5 Oregon 11-2
10 Wisconsin 11-2
15 Clemson 10-3
18 TCU 10-2
19 Houston 12-1
23 West Virginia 9-3


Not sure if only four are going in, how Clemson would skip Wisconsin. Not sure why Va Tech would skip either school.

karen lotz;1209275 wrote:Oregon would have been eliminated by LSU opening week. Why should they get a potential rematch but Bama can't? Because they played in a weaker conference?

WebFire;1209284 wrote:This is a good point. If you eliminate a team for losing the conference championship, you have to eliminate any team that lost an OOC game to one of the playoff qualifiers.

sleeper;1209293 wrote:That can certainly play into it. After making it conference champions only, I wouldn't mind other qualifiers to help sort out the mess.

karen lotz;1209275 wrote:Oregon would have been eliminated by LSU opening week. Why should they get a potential rematch but Bama can't? Because they played in a weaker conference?

slcoach;1209305 wrote:If you do that, we will never have any decent OOC games. They are getting fewer and fewer now. Teams would never play an OOC team that could win another league out of fear of being knocked out.