
ernest_t_bass
Posts: 24,984
May 13, 2012 1:05pm
I think the hardest part has to be the equality of enforcement and infractions.

Fly4Fun
Posts: 7,730
May 13, 2012 1:14pm
I'm sure if it's a natural side conversation then that will be fine. I think Justin is speaking more towards an intentional shifting of topics if a person is trying to push an agenda.The Equalizer;1169000 wrote:When it comes to derailing threads, will there be lee way given? I think we all know when people come in to ruin it, but what if during the course of conversation a side discussion branches off?

justincredible
Posts: 32,056
May 13, 2012 1:20pm
Correct. Take sleeper dropping in on threads and derailing them with his anti-religion agenda.Fly4Fun;1169007 wrote:I'm sure if it's a natural side conversation then that will be fine. I think Justin is speaking more towards an intentional shifting of topics i a person is trying to push an agenda.
A lot of threads naturally evolve and go off topic. That's perfectly fine.

justincredible
Posts: 32,056
May 13, 2012 1:22pm
Nope, we're (moderators and myself) all on the same page. If my mom starts posting again and calls someone an asshole she'll be infracted.ernest_t_bass;1169003 wrote:I think the hardest part has to be the equality of enforcement and infractions.
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vball10set
Posts: 24,795
May 13, 2012 1:26pm
:thumbup:

justincredible
Posts: 32,056
May 13, 2012 1:27pm
How about a high five?vball10set;1169017 wrote::thumbup:

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vball10set
Posts: 24,795
May 13, 2012 1:28pm
^^^done!

Mr. 300
Posts: 3,090
May 13, 2012 2:21pm
Mom's are off limits!justincredible;1169014 wrote:Nope, we're (moderators and myself) all on the same page. If my mom starts posting again and calls someone an **** she'll be infracted.

like_that
Posts: 26,625
May 13, 2012 2:28pm
So with these new rules, will posters be mocked for using the "report" feature? Last time we were encouraged to use that feature, but in return we were mocked for it.

justincredible
Posts: 32,056
May 13, 2012 2:58pm
like_that;1169041 wrote:So with these new rules, will posters be mocked for using the "report" feature? Last time we were encouraged to use that feature, but in return we were mocked for it.
No.

justincredible
Posts: 32,056
May 13, 2012 3:01pm
Myself and the mods were as guilty as everyone else for letting the place get the way it is. I'll take full responsibility for our actions (or lack of in a lot of cases).

wes_mantooth
Posts: 17,977
May 13, 2012 3:06pm
speak for yourself...I am awesome.justincredible;1169062 wrote:Myself and the mods were as guilty as everyone else for letting the place get the way it is.

j_crazy
Posts: 8,372
May 13, 2012 3:11pm
So if I disagree with someone I can say "that's the dumbest fucking thing I've ever heard" but can't say "you're fucking stupid"? Ie this isn't a swearing thing but a personal attack thing? I don't wanna be censored.

killer_ewok
Posts: 11,379
May 13, 2012 3:22pm
You obviously don't need my approval but...GOOD. Shit was getting old.

THE4RINGZ
Posts: 16,816
May 13, 2012 3:27pm
Finally

Mooney44Cards
Posts: 2,754
May 13, 2012 3:28pm
Well before you post you should probably be asking yourself "Am I saying this in order to mock the person I'm replying to?" If the answer is yes, it's probably not something you should say. I mean "that's the dumbest fucking thing I've ever heard", while technically not a personal attack, is hyperbole and adds nothing to any conversation. I'm not affiliated with this site, nor am I attempting to pretend like I know what the new rule enforcement parameters will be, but I'm just going off of what I feel is adult conversation and debate.j_crazy;1169066 wrote:So if I disagree with someone I can say "that's the dumbest fucking thing I've ever heard" but can't say "you're fucking stupid"? Ie this isn't a swearing thing but a personal attack thing? I don't wanna be censored.
I'm not sure if I've ever seen a debate/discussion on this site with anyone admitting, "Wow you made some really good points. I still disagree though, to each his own" or anything to that effect. Obviously we don't want to all act like we love each other and suck each other off (verbally, not literally because some may be into that), but honestly, discussions just devolve into one side mocking the other, even if both sides have good solid arguments. What contributes to that? Shit like "That's the dumbest fucking thing I've ever heard!"
This is my opinion, and I've said this since this site was founded (of course, last time this was brought up a few years ago and I mentioned this, I was mocked and I'm sure someone said something like "That's the dumbest fucking thing I've ever heard!")

justincredible
Posts: 32,056
May 13, 2012 3:31pm
I like this post. A lot. I agree 100%.Mooney44Cards;1169072 wrote:Well before you post you should probably be asking yourself "Am I saying this in order to mock the person I'm replying to?" If the answer is yes, it's probably not something you should say. I mean "that's the dumbest fucking thing I've ever heard", while technically not a personal attack, is hyperbole and adds nothing to any conversation. I'm not affiliated with this site, nor am I attempting to pretend like I know what the new rule enforcement parameters will be, but I'm just going off of what I feel is adult conversation and debate.
I'm not sure if I've ever seen a debate/discussion on this site with anyone admitting, "Wow you made some really good points. I still disagree though, to each his own" or anything to that effect. Obviously we don't want to all act like we love each other and suck each other off (verbally, not literally because some may be into that), but honestly, discussions just devolve into one side mocking the other, even if both sides have good solid arguments. What contributes to that? Shit like "That's the dumbest fucking thing I've ever heard!"
This is my opinion, and I've said this since this site was founded (of course, last time this was brought up a few years ago and I mentioned this, I was mocked and I'm sure someone said something like "That's the dumbest fucking thing I've ever heard!")
We aren't going to ban swearing. There are swear filters that can be set for those that don't like bad words. But the "that's the dumbest fucking thing I've ever heard" is just a roundabout personal attack, as far as I'm concerned.

karen lotz
Posts: 22,284
May 13, 2012 3:32pm
Cock. Shit. Balls.

Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
May 13, 2012 3:37pm
It was pretty much LJ who started the mocking of users for using the feature.like_that;1169041 wrote:So with these new rules, will posters be mocked for using the "report" feature? Last time we were encouraged to use that feature, but in return we were mocked for it.
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
May 13, 2012 3:38pm
That's the dumbest f*cking thing I've ever heardMooney44Cards;1169072 wrote:Well before you post you should probably be asking yourself "Am I saying this in order to mock the person I'm replying to?" If the answer is yes, it's probably not something you should say. I mean "that's the dumbest ****ing thing I've ever heard", while technically not a personal attack, is hyperbole and adds nothing to any conversation. I'm not affiliated with this site, nor am I attempting to pretend like I know what the new rule enforcement parameters will be, but I'm just going off of what I feel is adult conversation and debate.
I'm not sure if I've ever seen a debate/discussion on this site with anyone admitting, "Wow you made some really good points. I still disagree though, to each his own" or anything to that effect. Obviously we don't want to all act like we love each other and suck each other off (verbally, not literally because some may be into that), but honestly, discussions just devolve into one side mocking the other, even if both sides have good solid arguments. What contributes to that? **** like "That's the dumbest ****ing thing I've ever heard!"
This is my opinion, and I've said this since this site was founded (of course, last time this was brought up a few years ago and I mentioned this, I was mocked and I'm sure someone said something like "That's the dumbest ****ing thing I've ever heard!")
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
May 13, 2012 3:39pm
I hear he knows thingsCommander of Awesome;1169086 wrote:It was pretty much LJ who started the mocking of users for using the feature.

LJ
Posts: 16,351
May 13, 2012 3:41pm
Commander of Awesome;1169086 wrote:It was pretty much LJ who started the mocking of users for using the feature.
I called ppl out for abusing it. You get infractions and bans on other forums for abusing it in the same way. Its to be used to report things against the rules, nothing more. Not because you dont like what was said or dont like who posted it.

LJ
Posts: 16,351
May 13, 2012 3:42pm
lhslep134;1169090 wrote:I hear he knows things
You trying to get the first warning?

Pick6
Posts: 14,946
May 13, 2012 3:43pm
lmaoLJ;1169092 wrote:You trying to get the first warning?

LJ
Posts: 16,351
May 13, 2012 3:45pm
Pick6;1169095 wrote:lmao
Seriously, it was something mentioned in the first post.