Site rules announcement (it's lengthy but required reading).

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May 13, 2012 1:05pm
I think the hardest part has to be the equality of enforcement and infractions.
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May 13, 2012 1:14pm
The Equalizer;1169000 wrote:When it comes to derailing threads, will there be lee way given? I think we all know when people come in to ruin it, but what if during the course of conversation a side discussion branches off?
I'm sure if it's a natural side conversation then that will be fine. I think Justin is speaking more towards an intentional shifting of topics if a person is trying to push an agenda.
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May 13, 2012 1:20pm
Fly4Fun;1169007 wrote:I'm sure if it's a natural side conversation then that will be fine. I think Justin is speaking more towards an intentional shifting of topics i a person is trying to push an agenda.
Correct. Take sleeper dropping in on threads and derailing them with his anti-religion agenda.

A lot of threads naturally evolve and go off topic. That's perfectly fine.
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May 13, 2012 1:22pm
ernest_t_bass;1169003 wrote:I think the hardest part has to be the equality of enforcement and infractions.
Nope, we're (moderators and myself) all on the same page. If my mom starts posting again and calls someone an asshole she'll be infracted.
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vball10set
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May 13, 2012 1:26pm
:thumbup:
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May 13, 2012 1:27pm
vball10set;1169017 wrote::thumbup:
How about a high five?

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May 13, 2012 1:28pm
^^^done!
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May 13, 2012 2:21pm
justincredible;1169014 wrote:Nope, we're (moderators and myself) all on the same page. If my mom starts posting again and calls someone an **** she'll be infracted.
Mom's are off limits!
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May 13, 2012 2:28pm
So with these new rules, will posters be mocked for using the "report" feature? Last time we were encouraged to use that feature, but in return we were mocked for it.
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May 13, 2012 2:58pm
like_that;1169041 wrote:So with these new rules, will posters be mocked for using the "report" feature? Last time we were encouraged to use that feature, but in return we were mocked for it.

No.
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May 13, 2012 3:01pm
Myself and the mods were as guilty as everyone else for letting the place get the way it is. I'll take full responsibility for our actions (or lack of in a lot of cases).
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May 13, 2012 3:06pm
justincredible;1169062 wrote:Myself and the mods were as guilty as everyone else for letting the place get the way it is.
speak for yourself...I am awesome.
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May 13, 2012 3:11pm
So if I disagree with someone I can say "that's the dumbest fucking thing I've ever heard" but can't say "you're fucking stupid"? Ie this isn't a swearing thing but a personal attack thing? I don't wanna be censored.
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May 13, 2012 3:22pm
You obviously don't need my approval but...GOOD. Shit was getting old.
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May 13, 2012 3:27pm
Finally
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May 13, 2012 3:28pm
j_crazy;1169066 wrote:So if I disagree with someone I can say "that's the dumbest fucking thing I've ever heard" but can't say "you're fucking stupid"? Ie this isn't a swearing thing but a personal attack thing? I don't wanna be censored.
Well before you post you should probably be asking yourself "Am I saying this in order to mock the person I'm replying to?" If the answer is yes, it's probably not something you should say. I mean "that's the dumbest fucking thing I've ever heard", while technically not a personal attack, is hyperbole and adds nothing to any conversation. I'm not affiliated with this site, nor am I attempting to pretend like I know what the new rule enforcement parameters will be, but I'm just going off of what I feel is adult conversation and debate.

I'm not sure if I've ever seen a debate/discussion on this site with anyone admitting, "Wow you made some really good points. I still disagree though, to each his own" or anything to that effect. Obviously we don't want to all act like we love each other and suck each other off (verbally, not literally because some may be into that), but honestly, discussions just devolve into one side mocking the other, even if both sides have good solid arguments. What contributes to that? Shit like "That's the dumbest fucking thing I've ever heard!"

This is my opinion, and I've said this since this site was founded (of course, last time this was brought up a few years ago and I mentioned this, I was mocked and I'm sure someone said something like "That's the dumbest fucking thing I've ever heard!")
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May 13, 2012 3:31pm
Mooney44Cards;1169072 wrote:Well before you post you should probably be asking yourself "Am I saying this in order to mock the person I'm replying to?" If the answer is yes, it's probably not something you should say. I mean "that's the dumbest fucking thing I've ever heard", while technically not a personal attack, is hyperbole and adds nothing to any conversation. I'm not affiliated with this site, nor am I attempting to pretend like I know what the new rule enforcement parameters will be, but I'm just going off of what I feel is adult conversation and debate.

I'm not sure if I've ever seen a debate/discussion on this site with anyone admitting, "Wow you made some really good points. I still disagree though, to each his own" or anything to that effect. Obviously we don't want to all act like we love each other and suck each other off (verbally, not literally because some may be into that), but honestly, discussions just devolve into one side mocking the other, even if both sides have good solid arguments. What contributes to that? Shit like "That's the dumbest fucking thing I've ever heard!"

This is my opinion, and I've said this since this site was founded (of course, last time this was brought up a few years ago and I mentioned this, I was mocked and I'm sure someone said something like "That's the dumbest fucking thing I've ever heard!")
I like this post. A lot. I agree 100%.

We aren't going to ban swearing. There are swear filters that can be set for those that don't like bad words. But the "that's the dumbest fucking thing I've ever heard" is just a roundabout personal attack, as far as I'm concerned.
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May 13, 2012 3:32pm
Cock. Shit. Balls.
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May 13, 2012 3:37pm
like_that;1169041 wrote:So with these new rules, will posters be mocked for using the "report" feature? Last time we were encouraged to use that feature, but in return we were mocked for it.
It was pretty much LJ who started the mocking of users for using the feature.
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May 13, 2012 3:38pm
Mooney44Cards;1169072 wrote:Well before you post you should probably be asking yourself "Am I saying this in order to mock the person I'm replying to?" If the answer is yes, it's probably not something you should say. I mean "that's the dumbest ****ing thing I've ever heard", while technically not a personal attack, is hyperbole and adds nothing to any conversation. I'm not affiliated with this site, nor am I attempting to pretend like I know what the new rule enforcement parameters will be, but I'm just going off of what I feel is adult conversation and debate.

I'm not sure if I've ever seen a debate/discussion on this site with anyone admitting, "Wow you made some really good points. I still disagree though, to each his own" or anything to that effect. Obviously we don't want to all act like we love each other and suck each other off (verbally, not literally because some may be into that), but honestly, discussions just devolve into one side mocking the other, even if both sides have good solid arguments. What contributes to that? **** like "That's the dumbest ****ing thing I've ever heard!"

This is my opinion, and I've said this since this site was founded (of course, last time this was brought up a few years ago and I mentioned this, I was mocked and I'm sure someone said something like "That's the dumbest ****ing thing I've ever heard!")
That's the dumbest f*cking thing I've ever heard
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May 13, 2012 3:39pm
Commander of Awesome;1169086 wrote:It was pretty much LJ who started the mocking of users for using the feature.
I hear he knows things
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May 13, 2012 3:41pm
Commander of Awesome;1169086 wrote:It was pretty much LJ who started the mocking of users for using the feature.

I called ppl out for abusing it. You get infractions and bans on other forums for abusing it in the same way. Its to be used to report things against the rules, nothing more. Not because you dont like what was said or dont like who posted it.
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May 13, 2012 3:42pm
lhslep134;1169090 wrote:I hear he knows things

You trying to get the first warning?
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May 13, 2012 3:43pm
LJ;1169092 wrote:You trying to get the first warning?
lmao
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May 13, 2012 3:45pm
Pick6;1169095 wrote:lmao

Seriously, it was something mentioned in the first post.