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bases_loaded;1108841 wrote:Link? So I can rain on these facebookers parade
[video=youtube;RvqFi_HRPmk][/video]
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Hb31187;1108239 wrote:http://visiblechildren.tumblr.com/

The cause is great, the organization....not so much however
I would disagree there. The awareness they raise is worth it. They do far more than that douche to help.

And they've stated several times that they aren't giving money to the Ugandan government.
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WebFire;1108787 wrote:It's almost to 27 million now. Crazy.
That's damn impressive considering the video is 29 minutes long. Usually with videos that long, users don't even end up watching it.
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WebFire;1108820 wrote:Point is, even if we do step in, how far do we go? Getting rid of 1 guy isn't going to fix the problem.
Bingo!
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I Wear Pants;1108943 wrote: And they've stated several times that they aren't giving money to the Ugandan government.
That's good, since Kony hasn't been in Uganda since 2005 and the war has been over almost 10 years.
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Mar 8, 2012 12:16 PM
Here's IC's response to criticisms, which gets at some of the points brought up here:

http://invisible.tumblr.com/post/18929372614/thank-you-for-reading-this-and-doing-further
[h=3]RE: THE STRATEGY TO SECURE KONY ARREST[/h]For more than two decades, Kony has refused opportunities to negotiate an end to the violence peacefully, and governments of countries where Kony has operated — including Uganda, South Sudan, Democratic Republic of Congo, and Central African Republic — have been unable to capture Kony or bring him to justice. This is because regional governments are often not adequately committed to the task, but also because they lack some of the specific capabilities that would help them do so. The KONY 2012 campaign is calling for U.S. leadership to address both problems. It supports the deployment of U.S. advisors and the provision of intelligence and other support that can help locate and bring Kony to justice, but also increased diplomacy to hold regional governments accountable to their basic responsibilities to protect civilians from this kind of brutal violence. Importantly, the campaign also advocates for broader measures to help communities being affected by LRA attacks, such as increased funding for programs to help Kony’s abductees escape and return to their homes and families. For a clear understanding of the KONY 2012 political goals, please see the letter to President Obama.
[h=3]RE: UGANDAN GOVERNMENT HUMAN RIGHTS RECORD[/h]We do not defend any of the human rights abuses perpetrated by the Ugandan government or the Ugandan army (UPDF). None of the money donated through Invisible Children ever goes to the government of Uganda. Yet the only feasible and proper way to stop Kony and protect the civilians he targets is to coordinate efforts with regional governments.
[h=3]RE: STOPPING KONY[/h]We are advocating for the arrest of Joseph Kony so that he can be tried by the International Criminal Court (ICC) as a precedent for future war criminals. The goal of Kony 2012 is for the world to unite to see him arrested and prosecuted for his crimes against humanity.
[h=3]RE: WHY WORK WITH THE UPDF IF THE LRA IS NO LONGER IN NORTHERN UGANDA[/h]The LRA left northern Uganda in 2006. The LRA is currently active in Democratic Republic of Congo, Central African Republic, and South Sudan. Invisible Children’s mission is to stop Joseph Kony and the LRA wherever they are and help rehabilitate LRA-affected communities. The Ugandan government’s army, the UPDF, is more organized and better equipped than that of any of the other affected countries (DRC, South Sudan, CAR) to track down Joseph Kony. Part of the US strategy to stop Kony is to encourage cooperation between the governments and armies of the 4 LRA-affected countries. The LRA was active in Uganda for nearly 20 years, displacing 1.7 million people and abducting at least 30,000 children. The people and government of Uganda have a vested interested in seeing him stopped.
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Mar 8, 2012 12:18 PM
Scarlet_Buckeye;1108944 wrote:That's damn impressive considering the video is 29 minutes long. Usually with videos that long, users don't even end up watching it.
It doesn't say 27 million people viewed the whole thing...
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Mar 8, 2012 12:22 PM
bases_loaded;1108957 wrote:It doesn't say 27 million people viewed the whole thing...
I could be wrong, but I thought a "view" only counted if the ticker made it all the way to the end?
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Ummm does nobody pay attention to the news? Or does nobody care?

It's been almost 2 years since Congress passed the law for the United States to provide aid in the finding and crushing of Joseph Kony and his rebellion. In October the President authorized a small number of US ground troops to aid in the fight (you may recall this is when Rush Limbaugh had to stick his foot in his mouth then too because he was defending Joseph Kony as a man of God or some other terrible statement which made it clear he knew nothing about the situation).

We're doing something about it. The problem is, he's no longer in Uganda. And its not easy to find him.

Don't give your money to some organization. There's nothing wrong with raising awareness, but write to your congressman or something and let them know we need more ground troops or something.
Mar 8, 2012 12:56pm
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Mar 8, 2012 1:28 PM
mcburg93;1108801 wrote:This stuff has been going on for years over there. Its ridiculous something hasnt been done about it by now. Must not be much oil over there cause seems not to many governments are worried about it.
Gblock;1108816 wrote:no they dont have any oil or resources we need...when they do we will step in

Um, you realize Uganda has large untapped oil/gas reserves, right? And you're also aware that the US gov't is already actively looking for Kony, right?
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fan_from_texas;1109036 wrote:Um, you realize Uganda has large untapped oil/gas reserves, right? And you're also aware that the US gov't is already actively looking for Kony, right?
im not saying we wont eventually give it 10-20 years....right now its still cheaper and safer to exploit the asian countries...once they start to modernize and demand more than a dollar a day etc...we will move to africa and exploit them for a dollar a day and pillage their resources.
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Mooney44Cards;1109002 wrote:Ummm does nobody pay attention to the news? Or does nobody care?

It's been almost 2 years since Congress passed the law for the United States to provide aid in the finding and crushing of Joseph Kony and his rebellion. In October the President authorized a small number of US ground troops to aid in the fight (you may recall this is when Rush Limbaugh had to stick his foot in his mouth then too because he was defending Joseph Kony as a man of God or some other terrible statement which made it clear he knew nothing about the situation).

We're doing something about it. The problem is, he's no longer in Uganda. And its not easy to find him.

Don't give your money to some organization. There's nothing wrong with raising awareness, but write to your congressman or something and let them know we need more ground troops or something.
Did it stick though? I thought I heard that he pulled it because of criticism. Not sure, just thought I heard that.
Mar 8, 2012 1:52pm
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WebFire;1109049 wrote:Did it stick though? I thought I heard that he pulled it because of criticism. Not sure, just thought I heard that.
I don't think so. Not as far as I can tell. But if you find a source to back that up I'd be more than happy to admit I'm wrong.
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Mar 8, 2012 2:09 PM
I don't have a source, that's why I was asking. They were talking about it on the radio this morning and I thought that's what they said. But I wasn't paying enough attention to say it was or wasn't
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