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Feb 19, 2012 4:44 PM
1st Team:
G - Frazier (Penn St)
G - Taylor (Wisconsin)
F - Shurna (Northwestern)
F - Green (MSU)
F - Sullinger (OSU)

2nd Team:
G - Buford (OSU)
G - Burke (Michigan
G - Paul (Illinois)
F - Zeller (Indiana)
F - Hummel (Purdue)

3rd Team:
G - Gatens (Iowa)
G - Spencer (Nebraska)
F - Thomas (OSU)
F - Watford (Indiana)
C - Leonard (Illinois)

POY - Green (MSU)
FOY - Zeller (Indiana) (also known as Newcomer of year)
COY - Crean (Indiana)

I cannot, seriously cannot, believe I cant find a spot on the first team for Cody Zeller. I would take him over Frazier, but I think the B1G does 2/3 (either 3 guards and 2 post or 3 post and 2 guards). If they go 4/1 Zeller beats Frazier imo.

Very tough. I think Thomas deserves it as well as a few others, like Craft, Hardaway and Rodney Williams. But, the B1G has a lot of talent, and a lot of players with that talent as the reasons for their teams success...so it cant be overlooked.
Feb 19, 2012 4:44pm
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Feb 19, 2012 4:51 PM
Pretty good. Few questionable. Izzo could get COY IMO. And still a handful of games to go that could change things.
Feb 19, 2012 4:51pm
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Feb 19, 2012 4:57 PM
centralbucksfan;1090507 wrote:Pretty good. Few questionable. Izzo could get COY IMO. And still a handful of games to go that could change things.
Definitely. I wouldnt argue with rplacing the entire 3rd team with any other 5 players lol.

I think the 1st and 2nd teams will all be there though. 1st team I think I have pretty nailed. 2nd Team I could see a few slipping to 3rd team.

And, yes. Still 2 weeks to go. But Im bored out of my mind right now waiting for this IU game to start tonight. So I made the thread lol.
Feb 19, 2012 4:57pm
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Feb 19, 2012 4:59 PM
I'd take Drew Crawford over Bo Spencer, without question.

I might take Leonard over Paul as a 2nd teamer too, although that one is close.
Feb 19, 2012 4:59pm
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Feb 19, 2012 5:04 PM
Mulva;1090518 wrote:I'd take Drew Crawford over Bo Spencer, without question.

I might take Leonard over Paul as a 2nd teamer too, although that one is close.
I honestly dont know if they vote on total stats or B1G play stats. But if its only conference...Paul is at 18.2 ppg a game (4th) and 5.1 rpg (17th). Leonard is 12.4 (18th), 7.1 (3rd).
Feb 19, 2012 5:04pm
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Feb 19, 2012 5:43 PM
Looks pretty good, Laley, but I'd go with Burke as FOY over Zeller (I can't believe I just typed that :o)
Feb 19, 2012 5:43pm
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Feb 19, 2012 5:45 PM
I would put Thomas on the 2nd team probably but I don't follow the rest of the conference enough to know a lot about the players who are ahead of him so I could be wrong.
Feb 19, 2012 5:45pm
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Feb 19, 2012 5:50 PM
bigdaddy2003;1090536 wrote:I would put Thomas on the 2nd team probably but I don't follow the rest of the conference enough to know a lot about the players who are ahead of him so I could be wrong.

There's a lot of damn good players in the big 10 this year. I don't think he's consistent enough to be ahead of the guys ahead of him. But I would almost be tempted to put him above Buford. He has really struggled lately but I believe Buford is more important to Ohio st than Thomas
Feb 19, 2012 5:50pm
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Feb 19, 2012 5:59 PM
bigdaddy2003;1090536 wrote:I would put Thomas on the 2nd team probably but I don't follow the rest of the conference enough to know a lot about the players who are ahead of him so I could be wrong.
Only guy you can replace for Thomas, IMO, is Buford. I dont see it.
Feb 19, 2012 5:59pm
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Feb 19, 2012 7:59 PM
ccrunner609;1090578 wrote:Do we not have centers anymore?
No, not really. Leonard is the only listed Center on my list.

How much basketball do you actually watch? We havent really had centers in college for years.
Feb 19, 2012 7:59pm
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Feb 19, 2012 10:10 PM
I really don't think Buford should be 2nd Team.
I also go with Burke as FOY.
Feb 19, 2012 10:10pm
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Feb 19, 2012 11:03 PM
ccrunner609;1090762 wrote:2 things, Sully and guys like Zellers might be listed at forwards but are centers in reality. Also if you are going to list positions in lists like this then you have the traditional G,G, F, F, C.
No, you dont. And no, they arent.

What is traditional about GGFFC anyway? You would need a PG, SG, SF, PF, and C. So again, no...you dont.
Feb 19, 2012 11:03pm
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Feb 19, 2012 11:26 PM
Is Taylor having a great year? Seems like most of the games I've seen this year he hasn't been impressive.

Beilien will be COY unless they drop 2 or 3 more regular season games.
Feb 19, 2012 11:26pm
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Feb 19, 2012 11:35 PM
dave;1090784 wrote:Is Taylor having a great year? Seems like most of the games I've seen this year he hasn't been impressive.

Beilien will be COY unless they drop 2 or 3 more regular season games.
He has been solid. Struggled early, but is the reason for the turnaround and Wisky being 4th. He also, as usual, has a ridiculous A/T ratio.

Also, UofM was predicted as a top 4 team. Not sure what Beilien has done to be COY, though he has been good.
Feb 19, 2012 11:35pm
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Feb 19, 2012 11:53 PM
Beilien would be my #3 selection for COY in the B1G, behind Izzo and Crean.
Feb 19, 2012 11:53pm
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Feb 20, 2012 12:04 AM
SportsAndLady;1090800 wrote:Beilien would be my #3 selection for COY in the B1G, behind Izzo and Crean.
He would be #4 for me.

1. Crean
2. Weber
3. Izzo
4. Beilien

lol
Feb 20, 2012 12:04am
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Feb 20, 2012 12:15 AM
Lol...Weber

List looks a lot like team MVP's get a 1st or a 2nd. These always find people butthurt but they're not all that bad I guess.
Feb 20, 2012 12:15am
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Feb 20, 2012 12:54 AM
Buford just hasn't been playing great lately. That is why I would put Thomas in for him.
Feb 20, 2012 12:54am
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Mar 5, 2012 7:01 PM
Time to see how close I was. I would probably change some things now, 2 weeks later. But we will see how close these projections were. 1/1 so far with Draymond as POY.
Mar 5, 2012 7:01pm
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Mar 5, 2012 7:25 PM
POS. FIRST TEAM
SECOND TEAM THIRD TEAM
G: Jordan Taylor, Wisconsin Trey Burke, Michigan Keith Appling, Michigan State
G/F: Robbie Hummel, Purdue Tim Frazier, Penn State Brandon Paul, Illinois
G/F: John Shurna, Northwestern William Buford, Ohio State Matt Gatens, Iowa
F: DRAYMOND GREEN, Michigan State Deshaun Thomas, Ohio State Tim Hardaway Jr., Michigan
F/C: Jared Sullinger, Ohio State Cody Zeller, Indiana Drew Crawford, Northwestern
HONORABLE MENTION: Lewis Jackson, Purdue; Aaron Craft, Ohio State; Ryan Evans, Wisconsin; Christian Watford, Indiana; Jared Berggren, Wisconsin; Meyers Leonard, Illinois
ALL FRESHMAN
TREY BURKE, Michigan
Dave Sobolewski, Northwestern
Branden Dawson, Michigan State
Aaron White, Iowa
CODY ZELLER, Indiana
SUPERLATIVE WINNERS
Player of the Year: Draymond Green, Michigan State
Coach of the Year: Tom Izzo, Michigan State
Freshman of the Year: Cody Zeller, Indiana
Defensive Player of the Year: Aaron Craft, Ohio State
Sixth Man of the Year: D.J. Byrd, Purdue
POS. FIRST TEAM
SECOND TEAM THIRD TEAM
G: Tim Frazier, Penn State Trey Burke, Michigan Keith Appling, Michigan State
G/F: Robbie Hummel, Purdue Jordan Taylor, Wisconsin Aaron Craft, Ohio State
G/F: John Shurna, Northwestern Matt Gatens, Iowa Tim Hardaway Jr., Michigan
F: DRAYMOND GREEN, Michigan State William Buford, Ohio State Drew Crawford, Northwestern
F/C: Jared Sullinger, Ohio State Cody Zeller, Indiana Deshaun Thomas, Ohio State

HONORABLE MENTION: Meyers Leonard, Illinois; Brandon Paul, Illinois; Jordan Hulls, Indiana; Victor Oladipo, Indiana; Christian Watford, Indiana; Aaron White, Iowa; Zack Novak, Michigan; Branden Dawson, Michigan State; D.J. Byrd, Purdue
Lewis Jackson, Purdue; Jared Berggren, Wisconsin; Ryan Evans, Wisconsin
Player of the Year: Draymond Green, Michigan State
Freshman of the Year: Trey Burke, Michigan
Coach of the Year: Tom Izzo, Michigan State
BIG TEN SPORTSMANSHIP AWARD HONOREES: Sam Maniscalco, Illinois; Jordan Hulls, Indiana; Matt Gatens, Iowa; Stu Douglass, Michigan; Austin Thornton, Michigan State; Ralph Sampson III, Minnesota; Brandon Richardson, Nebraska; Nick Fruendt, Northwestern; Aaron Craft, Ohio State; Billy Oliver, Penn State; Robbie Hummel, Purdue; Rob Wilson, Wisconsin.
Tom Izzo, the Big Ten Coach of the Year

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Mar 5, 2012 7:25pm
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Mar 5, 2012 7:30 PM
Ugh, they end the show with Jimmy Jackson (Rolls Royce) talking and then start the new show with Tim Doyle (roller blades) talking.

What a horrible transition. lol
Mar 5, 2012 7:30pm
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Mar 5, 2012 7:36 PM
Laley23;1106166 wrote:Ugh, they end the show with Jimmy Jackson (Rolls Royce) talking and then start the new show with Tim Doyle (roller blades) talking.

What a horrible transition. lol

I've never seen Tim Doyle on there, but flipped back and heard him talking and wow he seems annoying.
Mar 5, 2012 7:36pm
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Mar 5, 2012 7:41 PM
Terry_Tate;1106172 wrote:I've never seen Tim Doyle on there, but flipped back and heard him talking and wow he seems annoying.
I stand by my analogy.
Mar 5, 2012 7:41pm
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Mar 6, 2012 12:17 PM
Ohio State got 4 players on the All Big Ten Team 1st, 2nd and 3rd Team, no other school got more than 2.

Craft thus far in his 2 seasons. Sixth man of the year. 3rd Team All Big Ten. First Team All Big Defensive Team twice, Defensive player of the year. First Team Academic All-American.
Mar 6, 2012 12:17pm
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Mar 6, 2012 12:28 PM
ccrunner609;1106178 wrote:Izzo did his thing but Crean had one hell of a year. Did more with less talent for sure
I would agree with this. But everyone wants to look at MSU going into the season unranked, then doing so well. When in reality, Izzo did have talent coming back. They also seem to forget they lost their last 2 games of the season, and VERY lucky it wasn't their last 3 games. He did a nice job. But I think many went overboard on him this year to be honest.
Mar 6, 2012 12:28pm