2012 MLB Random Chatter

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Nov 13, 2012 8:37pm
A lot of people think Toronto has/had the best farm system in baseball, and Marisnick, Nicolino, and Hechavarria are their #2, 5, and 8 prospects (by Baseball America).

If the Marlins didn't want this to happen they shouldn't have gone 69-93 last year. If you're going to suck anyway why not save $100 million?
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Nov 13, 2012 8:40pm
Terrible for Miami. Just terrible.
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sleeper
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Nov 13, 2012 8:42pm
Just imagine how Cleveland would feel if their owners shipped all their good players for a bunch of junk.
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Nov 13, 2012 10:18pm
sleeper;1319668 wrote:Just imagine how Cleveland would feel if their owners shipped all their good players for a bunch of junk.
We dont have to imagine.

However, if Cleveland got back what Miami did, it would be like striking oil in Rocky River.
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Nov 13, 2012 10:34pm
Laley23;1319750 wrote:We dont have to imagine.

However, if Cleveland got back what Miami did, it would be like striking oil in Rocky River.
Seriously.

We traded back to back Cy Young winners for a pile of steaming dog crap.

I read that part of what made this trade easy for the Marlins is they refuse to give no trade provisions in all contracts, I guess we can see why now.

Something tells me the Dolan's might adopt that philosophy if they haven't already.
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Nov 14, 2012 8:16am
I work with Nicolino's uncle and Justin is just absolutely pissed about this deal. Wants nothing to do with the Marlins. Lol
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Nov 14, 2012 12:41pm
Tigers sign Torii Hunter for 2 years and 26 million.
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Nov 14, 2012 1:08pm
Laley23;1319750 wrote:We dont have to imagine.

However, if Cleveland got back what Miami did, it would be like striking oil in Rocky River.
IF those guys pan out to be as good as their prospect rating. I mean, with Cleveland, LaPorta was a really highly-rated prospect, wasn't he? And he's turned out to be shit, making that deal look really horrible in retrospect.

The difference between Cleveland and Miami is that Cleveland gives the pretense of "caring" in that they space out their salary dumps, so they can say it's because they know they can't afford a soon-to-be free agent, but are doing what they can to get value for them. The goons running Miami don't even bother with this. More like, "Okay, we spent a lot of money last year because you guys are footing nearly all the massive bill on our stadium. Things didn't work out, so fuck that and fuck you...BITCHES! We're lining our pockets and that's that."

Miami might have gotten quality guys (for down the road) back, but they've pretty much lost Stanton and probably anyone currently on the team who will have ANY demand for their services from anywhere else when the time comes for them to work on their next contract.
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Nov 14, 2012 1:32pm
Laley23;1319750 wrote:We dont have to imagine.

However, if Cleveland got back what Miami did, it would be like striking oil in Rocky River.
It was a joke. Cleveland doesn't have any good players.
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Nov 14, 2012 1:39pm
sleeper;1320126 wrote:It was a joke. Cleveland doesn't have any good players.
I know, cause they traded all of them...for dogshit.
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Nov 14, 2012 1:41pm
Heretic;1320102 wrote:IF those guys pan out to be as good as their prospect rating. I mean, with Cleveland, LaPorta was a really highly-rated prospect, wasn't he? And he's turned out to be shit, making that deal look really horrible in retrospect.
Yes. But also, CC and Lee>>>>>>>>>>> Buehrle, Reyes and Johnson.
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Sonofanump
Nov 14, 2012 1:57pm
TBone14;1320074 wrote:Tigers sign Torii Hunter for 2 years and 26 million.
Not surprised, Detroit is close to South Bend.
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Nov 14, 2012 2:04pm
I LOVE BEING A MARLINS FAN!!!!! Such a joke glad I don't actually live there haha. Still was hoping to go to some games but now I probably won't waste my time.

Also Laley love your signature its so true too.
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Nov 14, 2012 3:57pm
Sonofanump;1320149 wrote:Not surprised, Detroit is close to South Bend.

Exactly that was a no brainer all around
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Nov 14, 2012 4:01pm
Laley23;1320132 wrote:I know, cause they traded all of them...for dogshit.
I don't disagree. Cleveland had CC and Lee and got junk in return for them; but at least this case was due to CC and Lee being far more expensive than Cleveland was willing to pay.

The Marlins just don't care about winning anymore; they want to save money.
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Nov 14, 2012 4:02pm
Laley23;1320133 wrote:Yes. But also, CC and Lee>>>>>>>>>>> Buehrle, Reyes and Johnson.
One cannot emphasize how much better CC and Lee are compared to that group.
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Nov 14, 2012 4:04pm
sleeper;1320252 wrote:
The Marlins just don't care about winning anymore; they want to save money.
That is very true.
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Nov 14, 2012 4:05pm
Laley23;1320133 wrote:Yes. But also, CC and Lee>>>>>>>>>>> Buehrle, Reyes and Johnson.
That is true. Johnson had a chance to be with those two, but injuries really diminished him.
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Nov 14, 2012 4:09pm
Heretic;1320258 wrote:That is true. Johnson had a chance to be with those two, but injuries really diminished him.
Yeah, and Reyes couldve been special as well. Not to the level of Cy Young pitching, like Johnson mightve, but still much better. Injures have hindered both, and Buehrle is just over the hill.
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Nov 14, 2012 6:22pm
David Price won the Cy Young with 14 votes, Verlander had 13, Weaver 1. Hope the Rays don't pull an Indians and trade him away. There's been talk of either dealing Price, Shields or Hellickson because the team won't be able to afford all 3 and we obviously need the offense via trade.
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Nov 14, 2012 6:45pm
Little surprise as RA Dickey wins the NL Cy Young
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Nov 14, 2012 8:11pm


Class.
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Nov 14, 2012 8:11pm
They say Verlander was 3rd on 2 ballots or he would've won.
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Crimson streak
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Nov 14, 2012 8:12pm
As much as I hate the tigers verlander has always been a class act guy
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Nov 14, 2012 8:55pm
gorocks99;1320372 wrote:Little surprise as RA ****ey wins the NL Cy Young
This Mets fan can finally smile for the first time in a while ... very deserving, what a season for RA!