Blue Jackets looking to trade Rick Nash?

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Feb 15, 2012 11:31 AM
http://www.bluejacketsxtra.com/content/stories/2012/2/15/move-to-trade-captain-signals-a-major-rebuild.html

Hmmm I'm not sure how they are going to get any better by getting rid of the best player they have. They certainly haven't been able to do much with any other draft picks, so I'm not sure what they can get for him that will improve the team.

I'm not much of a hockey fan. I tried when they first came to Columbus but it was no fun to pay that much money to watch them continually lose. My company had season tickets and we could buy the tickets we wanted. I think I went to 5-10 games the first 2 or 3 years but then I lost interest. I did take my wife and some friends to a game earlier this year but it was pretty much just as bad as when they first started, if not worse. It's too bad, because I think if they could win a few games or show some improvement then Columbus would really jump on the band wagon.

And if they do trade him, I'll be rooting for him to do well wherever he ends up. He's certainly been loyal to the team and been through a lot of losing.
Feb 15, 2012 11:31am
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Feb 15, 2012 11:33 AM
They're looking to dump everything. Not necessarily a bad strategy when you're one of the worst franchises in pro sports. Before they lose their best player (by far) though, I'd like to know they have a rebuilding strategy in place. Whatever they would get for him would have to be the cornerstone of the franchise for the next 10 years (be it a great player or a group of young but potentially great players).
Feb 15, 2012 11:33am
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Feb 15, 2012 11:34 AM
Interesting, what would you think would be some targets if we part with Nash?
Feb 15, 2012 11:34am
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Feb 15, 2012 11:37 AM
only rumors i've heard are with LA and NYR.
Feb 15, 2012 11:37am
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Feb 15, 2012 11:38 AM
That would piss me off.
Feb 15, 2012 11:38am
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Feb 15, 2012 11:39 AM
gerb131;1086627 wrote:That would piss me off.
why? Columbus is a dumpster fire, i bet the guy is burnt out playing there and wants something different.
Feb 15, 2012 11:39am
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Feb 15, 2012 11:39 AM
I'd probably add the Leafs and Flyers as potential destinations (although I'm not sure about their cap space)
Feb 15, 2012 11:39am
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Feb 15, 2012 11:47 AM
Some of those young guys from Philly they mention (Couturier, Schenn, van Riemsdyk) interest me although I wonder just how much they'd be willing to part them.
Feb 15, 2012 11:47am
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Feb 15, 2012 12:02 PM
gorocks99;1086620 wrote:Before they lose their best player (by far) though, I'd like to know they have a rebuilding strategy in place.
That is what concerns me. I don't think they could find their ass with both hands, let alone get the cornerstone of the franchise for the next ten years. They've had plenty of high draft picks and not much success.
Raw Dawgin' it;1086631 wrote:why? Columbus is a dumpster fire, i bet the guy is burnt out playing there and wants something different.
I get why he would want out. But he isn't asking to be traded. Columbus is looking to move him.
Feb 15, 2012 12:02pm
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Feb 15, 2012 1:02 PM
FatHobbit;1086658 wrote:That is what concerns me. I don't think they could find their ass with both hands, let alone get the cornerstone of the franchise for the next ten years. They've had plenty of high draft picks and not much success.



I get why he would want out. But he isn't asking to be traded. Columbus is looking to move him.
He has a NTC or NMC, it sounds like he's willing to waive that, which is basically saying "yeah i wouldn't mind getting out of this crappy situation" It's not an out right ask to be traded, more a classy way of doing it.
Feb 15, 2012 1:02pm
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Feb 15, 2012 1:41 PM
Nash is too important for the NHL to keep him in C-bus.
Feb 15, 2012 1:41pm
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Feb 15, 2012 1:48 PM
said_aouita;1086768 wrote:Nash is too important for the NHL to keep him in C-bus.
this is a moronic statement.
Feb 15, 2012 1:48pm
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Feb 15, 2012 1:54 PM
said_aouita;1086768 wrote:Nash is too important for the NHL to keep him in C-bus.
SMH
Feb 15, 2012 1:54pm
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Feb 15, 2012 1:59 PM
Raw Dawgin' it;1086726 wrote:He has a NTC or NMC, it sounds like he's willing to waive that, which is basically saying "yeah i wouldn't mind getting out of this crappy situation" It's not an out right ask to be traded, more a classy way of doing it.
Yes, but they went to him and asked. He said he wouldn't ask to be traded but if they want to get rid of him he will let them. Why would he stay here when they are basically telling him they don't want him?

I hope he uses that no trade clause to make sure he goes somewhere that doesn't suck. He couldn't go to a team that was worse, but I feel like he's earned the right to go to a contender.
Feb 15, 2012 1:59pm
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Feb 15, 2012 2:05 PM
FatHobbit;1086793 wrote:Yes, but they went to him and asked. He said he wouldn't ask to be traded but if they want to get rid of him he will let them. Why would he stay here when they are basically telling him they don't want him?

I hope he uses that no trade clause to make sure he goes somewhere that doesn't suck. He couldn't go to a team that was worse, but I feel like he's earned the right to go to a contender.
it's not that they don't want him, they can just get a lot for him to start over.
Feb 15, 2012 2:05pm
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Feb 15, 2012 2:06 PM
Ya know what......why not? This is their most miserable season to date I believe so what can it really hurt? They have one ill fated playoff sweep season to give fans hope, but they are at rock bottom. They really cannot get much worse so why not see if they can restock?

Now....I dont really trust that they have the smarts and plan to go out and draft and develope the right guys, but that is a whole diff topic.
Feb 15, 2012 2:06pm
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Feb 15, 2012 2:28 PM
I hope he either goes to Boston or stays in the western conference ha.

I don't want him lighting my team up if he's on the rangers or Flyers
Feb 15, 2012 2:28pm
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Feb 15, 2012 8:14 PM
Raw Dawgin' it;1086777 wrote:this is a moronic statement.
Really? You don't think it would benefit the NFL moving him to a larger market?

Look at what Lin is doing in NYC for the NBA. If it was Utah or Golden State it would not get the same media coverage.
Feb 15, 2012 8:14pm
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Feb 15, 2012 8:30 PM
said_aouita;1087122 wrote:Really? You don't think it would benefit the NFL moving him to a larger market?

Look at what Lin is doing in NYC for the NBA. If it was Utah or Golden State it would not get the same media coverage.
This whole post is moronic. First of all, NHL. Second of all Rick Nash's story will NEVER be the same as Jeremy Lin
Feb 15, 2012 8:30pm
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Feb 15, 2012 9:02 PM
chicago510;1087129 wrote:First of all, NHL.
Third. Which is a repeat of the first. Nobody will really care no matter what.
Feb 15, 2012 9:02pm
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Feb 16, 2012 1:30 AM
chicago510;1087129 wrote:This whole post is moronic. First of all, NHL. Second of all Rick Nash's story will NEVER be the same as Jeremy Lin
I must not have been clear enough for you. True Rick Nash will NEVER be the same as Lin, unless he can become Asian, attended an Ivy League school and has a nice cross over. Sorry you missed the analogy.

I'm saying it's important for the NHL's stars to be in the larger markets. I tried comparing how being in NYC can make an athlete a star overnight. Keep thinking of Gretzsky being traded to LA right after Edmonton won the Stanley Cup, which was because of money. The NHL needs it's stars in larger markets....imo.
Feb 16, 2012 1:30am
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Feb 16, 2012 1:42 AM
said_aouita;1087328 wrote:I must not have been clear enough for you. True Rick Nash will NEVER be the same as Lin, unless he can become Asian, attended an Ivy League school and has a nice cross over. Sorry you missed the analogy.

I'm saying it's important for the NHL's stars to be in the larger markets. I tried comparing how being in NYC can make an athlete a star overnight. Keep thinking of Gretzsky being traded to LA right after Edmonton won the Stanley Cup, which was because of money. The NHL needs it's stars in larger markets....imo.
*Gretzky.

And Rick Nash is a star, in the NHL. Sadly, the NHL doesn't have the national cache like the NFL or NBA have, so only the super duper stars (Ovechkin, Crosby) even sniff the "Sportscenters" of the world in terms of popularity. Rick Nash could put up 90 pts/yr in NYC and would not be a super duper star. Marian Gaborik is doing that this year and how many people even know who he is?
Feb 16, 2012 1:42am
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Feb 16, 2012 2:33 AM
gorocks99;1086642 wrote:Some of those young guys from Philly they mention (Couturier, Schenn, van Riemsdyk) interest me although I wonder just how much they'd be willing to part them.
If Columbus wanted Couturier they would have never traded their first last year. Him and Schenn are going no where.

If Nash was to be moved, I'd like to see him go to Vancouver and get a package of either:

Schneider
Hodgson

or

Schneider
Ballard
Raymond

I know he'll never agree to it but, I wouldn't mind seeing him go to Edmonton either and trying to get the #2 pick in this years draft and a solid roster player.

The possibility of getting two of Yakupov, Murray, or Grigorenko would be incredible to rebuild the franchise around.
Feb 16, 2012 2:33am
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Feb 16, 2012 2:38 AM
chicago510;1087331 wrote:*Gretzky.

And Rick Nash is a star, in the NHL. Sadly, the NHL doesn't have the national cache like the NFL or NBA have, so only the super duper stars (Ovechkin, Crosby) even sniff the "Sportscenters" of the world in terms of popularity. Rick Nash could put up 90 pts/yr in NYC and would not be a super duper star. Marian Gaborik is doing that this year and how many people even know who he is?
If Nash were to be traded to the Rags, I would want Staal/Kreider/Dubinsky coming back.
Feb 16, 2012 2:38am