hey chief, there is a right side and wrong side. And those people trying to deprive others of rights. Those attacking them for not being "normal" are on the wrong side. You began our conversation with an attack mocking my position and me.Bio-Hazzzzard;1083513 wrote:My point proven. Thank you Isadore for once again proving that you only stand on one side and to hell with the rest. Now you tell me to get ****ed, who's attacking who here.
I thank you for the kind remarks
not an attack, just a question without a clear answer from you...and calling me Rev Phelps isn't mocking. SMHisadore;1083515 wrote:hey chief, there is a right side and wrong side. And those people trying to deprive others of rights. Those attacking them for not being "normal" are on the wrong side. You began our conversation with an attack mocking my position and me.
What did you expect?
A question which no matter how I answered would be rejected by you. As could be seen in the continuing discussion. Because of " I no way do I approve homosexuality as being a normal way of life." That statement is definitive, everything else is just pc bs to cover your true feelingsand reflective of rev phelps view of the world. So go a head an SMH.Bio-Hazzzzard;1083516 wrote:not an attack, just a question without a clear answer from you...and calling me Rev Phelps isn't mocking. SMH
I don't support sex with children at all. Period. You are trying to melt comment with regards to the age of consent and you are not being effective.isadore;1083361 wrote:are you dsylexic. You have the word "fast" in the quote you sited and you say it is "sat." That is one way to avoid trying to defend your statement defending sex and marriage with underage children. And that goes along with your support for incest even with the damage it will do to the off spring of the marriage and all the abuse it will cause within families.
Plz be honest.Thinthickbigred;1083585 wrote: Im not anti gay or anything like that but lets just be perfectly honest here .
I think there are some cases that people are taught to be that way whether its child abuse or hyper sexual activity . You see woman on woman alot and they say they go both ways . Its something people dont want to admitt but if a child is molested by the same sex that child might end up only being with the same sex . I think if anything there are several causes and Im not just going to go with the left wing thinking that you are either born with it or your not . You may in fact be born with this abnormality even at a high % rate but i do believe that is some cases kids are taught this behavior .Swamp Fox;1083626 wrote:I think that you either are or you aren't. I don't think it's something you made a conscious decision to "try out". Often times people don't "come out" until quite late in their lives although they have been hiding these feelings from even close family members for decades.
you are a funny guy. "I'm not anti gay or anything that BUT" "How could 26 people possibly say that being gay was normal and acceptable." How could these deluded fools possibly write that these people suffering from "abnormality" of homosexuality should be considered either normal or acceptable. And guess what we can save some of the abnormal individuals because they chose to be gay. We can rescue them from this abnormality. Of course I am not anti gay or anything.Thinthickbigred;1083585 wrote:On topic here .
I just want to know how 26 people say its normal and acceptable?
Acceptable in today's society yes . Normal ? How in the hell is it normal to have sex with the same sex?
God or the higher being who made us didnt make us so we could produce with the same sex . Its not scientific . Even an athiest or scientologist must know that . Its not normal people ,and I think that many gays would agree with me . Ive heard it many times that gays didnt choose to be gay and would never wanted to be . Ok even with that said is it normal ? NO .. Is being born an albino normal? No. Any way you slice it its not normal . Lets not be too politically correct here . Even if someone cannot choose whether to be gay or not is not the question . The question is . Is it normal . Absolutley not . understand the question . This is not a moral question . Its a scientific question .. People are born with abnormalities all the time .
I consider being gay an abnormality .
I also believe some gays are not necisarily born gay . I believe atleast some have learned this either through life's experiances or parenting and possible abuse . Like it or not . Im not anti gay or anything like that but lets just be perfectly honest here .
Glib and very inlightning you are .Early Cuyler;1083620 wrote:Plz be honest.
so if someone who would be born with the abnormality of homosexuality, were molested as a child by a person of the opposite sex then they would become heterosexual?Thinthickbigred;1083634 wrote:I think there are some cases that people are taught to be that way whether its child abuse or hyper sexual activity . You see woman on woman alot and they say they go both ways . Its something people dont want to admitt but if a child is molested by the same sex that child might end up only being with the same sex . I think if anything there are several causes and Im not just going to go with the left wing thinking that you are either born with it or your not . You may in fact be born with this abnormality even at a high % rate but i do believe that is some cases kids are taught this behavior .
Those are all hypothetical theories . I truely dont have the answer as to why people are gay . My only opinions are that first . Its abnormal ,and second it can be either taught or you are born with an abnormal way of thinking .isadore;1083648 wrote:so if someone who would be born with the abnormality of homosexuality, were molested as a child by a person of the opposite sex then they would become heterosexual?
you have an age old argument . I know you cant be born a racist . My whole argument is not whether or not your born with that trait or not ,or whether its learned . My answer to the question is any way you look at it and whatever may be true in any case . ITS ABNORMAL.Skyhook79;1083653 wrote:You are no more born gay than you are born a racist. Both are traits you choose at some point in your life based on many factors.
I have already stated that it is not normal.Thinthickbigred;1083664 wrote:you have an age old argument . I know you cant be born a racist . My whole argument is not whether or not your born with that trait or not ,or whether its learned . My answer to the question is any way you look at it and whatever may be true in any case . ITS ABNORMAL.
what you present as being equivalent is very self revalatory.Skyhook79;1083653 wrote:You are no more born gay than you are born a racist. Both are traits you choose at some point in your life based on many factors.
"The age of consent doesn't respect the clear differences in young people's development, and as such 'punishes' the fast developers in order to protect the slow developing." 287# 1/5/12 on the discharged for being gay thread# According to you "fast developing" children are being punished by being denied sex with adults. Your only caveat for keeping the age of consent was that we have not yet found a suitable method to identify the fast developing. Which of course implies that once it is found sex with fast developing children is endorsed by you.Con_Alma;1083526 wrote:I don't support sex with children at all. Period. You are trying to melt comment with regards to the age of consent and you are not being effective.
I don't support sex with children. It's statutory rape.
I do support any adult being able to enter into a relationship contract. You don't. you are prejudice.
elaborate. Are you gay? If not, how would you know? Every gay person I've came into contact with said they were born that way.Skyhook79;1083653 wrote:You are no more born gay than you are born a racist. Both are traits you choose at some point in your life based on many factors.
Christians denigrate gays all around the world. Christians attack gays. Christians deny gays their rights.isadore;1083503 wrote:The Christian fundamentalist comes in to help rev phelps what a surprise.
Pick6;1083694 wrote:elaborate. Are you gay? If not, how would you know? Every gay person I've came into contact with said they were born that way.[/QUOTE]
I wouldn't expect them to say any different that is their "company line" so to speak. It justifies their choice. It helps their lifestyle be perceived as "normal". That is my opinion. You have yours.
But in Christian dominated Europe, North and South America the movement is to tolerance despite what you read from some on this site. In Muslim dominated nations the persecution continues unabated.dwccrew;1083701 wrote:Christians denigrate gays all around the world. Christians attack gays. Christians deny gays their rights.
I know I used your quote but I was pretty much talking to everybody not just you .Skyhook79;1083666 wrote:I have already stated that it is not normal.
Not really sure what your getting at . Its my opinion that mating with the same sex is not a normal behavior by any species. I am not saying that you cannot be born with that trait . I just dont know . I am trying to look at it in a scientific manner . ive herd gay people say that other animal species can be homosexual , so Im looking at it in that way . Listen just put it simply . Can any species continue to exist if it does not reproduce?isadore;1083645 wrote:you are a funny guy. "I'm not anti gay or anything that BUT" "How could 26 people possibly say that being gay was normal and acceptable." How could these deluded fools possibly write that these people suffering from "abnormality" of homosexuality should be considered either normal or acceptable. And guess what we can save some of the abnormal individuals because they chose to be gay. We can rescue them from this abnormality. Of course I am not anti gay or anything.
Obviously you have to reproduce to exist. However, you don't need to be heterosexual to reproduce. Therefore, your sexual orientation doesn't deal with the ability to reproduce.Thinthickbigred;1083842 wrote: Listen just put it simply . Can any species continue to exist if it does not reproduce?
If you answer no ,then you have to agree that being homosexual is not "NORMAL".
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Same here.Pick6;1083694 wrote:elaborate. Are you gay? If not, how would you know? Every gay person I've came into contact with said they were born that way.
