krambman;1068464 wrote:I can't believe I am saying this, but I'm with Belly. If he has two weeks of vacation time, then take those two weeks of vacation as his last two on the job and quit. Problem solved.

This is good Grasshopper :laugh:

krambman;1068464 wrote:I can't believe I am saying this, but I'm with Belly. If he has two weeks of vacation time, then take those two weeks of vacation as his last two on the job and quit. Problem solved.

This is an absolutely bull shit move, and it could result in a not so positive reference for future employment from your employer.

Bigdogg;1071537 wrote:This is an absolutely bull **** move, and it could result in a not so positive reference for future employment from your employer.

There was a guy I knew a few years ago who owned a business. Once in awhile when he was adding new employees it was almost a flip of the coin as to which candidate to hire becuase the final 2-3 were so close.

He used a little "trick" to make the final determination. He would ask when they could start. If they currently were employed and stated they could start immediately without giving their current employer notice then he used that as a red flag. If that person would leave someone else high and dry, then they would do the same to him.

It can be tempting to do what are suggesting, but karma is a bitch.

Belly35;1071274 wrote:This is good Grasshopper :laugh:

I tried that and they kept my last paycheck

In most cases, even if you don't "accrue" vacation, you can get docked if you haven't actually accumulated it (i.e. 12 days =1 day per month you're entitle to use or get paid for). As mentioned, some states they don't have to pay any accrued vacation, but you should refer to the employee/HR handbook.

Second, outside of a few union jobs, I'm not aware of any company paying you for unused sick days. They are not vacation days and they are not personal days - technically they are a benefit you only receive with a doctor's note if you miss work. Some companies have done away with any distinction and just give you X amount of days for vacation/sick/personal.

Also, bottom line is everything is negotiable. If they want you to stay on a few extra weeks, you can demand they pay your accrued vacation in return. Technically, 2-wks notice is only a courtesy (highly recommended) and not required in any way.

If I owned a business, I wouldn't pay someone for vacation time that wasn't accrued over time. If I just give you 3 weeks vacation, and you leave before using it, I wouldn't pay it. If it was accrued, which means you earned the time through working, I would have no problem paying it.

gut;1071828 wrote:In most cases, even if you don't "accrue" vacation, you can get docked if you haven't actually accumulated it (i.e. 12 days =1 day per month you're entitle to use or get paid for). As mentioned, some states they don't have to pay any accrued vacation, but you should refer to the employee/HR handbook.

Second, outside of a few union jobs, I'm not aware of any company paying you for unused sick days. They are not vacation days and they are not personal days - technically they are a benefit you only receive with a doctor's note if you miss work. Some companies have done away with any distinction and just give you X amount of days for vacation/sick/personal.

Also, bottom line is everything is negotiable. If they want you to stay on a few extra weeks, you can demand they pay your accrued vacation in return. Technically, 2-wks notice is only a courtesy (highly recommended) and not required in any way.

My company pays PTO time when you leave.

As an update, and I know no one cares.

I went with the more professional route that bigdogg suggested and not the copout way of taking vacation and then quiting.

In my resignation I worded it that I was giving them 3 weeks notice that I am ending my employment. My last day at the facility will be XXXX. With the 3 weeks of vacation that I get yearly my last official day with the company will be XXXX (it was 3 weeks after my last day after the facility).

It worked. I got them to pay me the 3 weeks of vacation. So I took a week off between the two, and then the next two weeks I got two paychecks each week. Add that onto the fact that my new employer agreed to pay for my cobra insurance until I get onto the company plan and all is well!

Plus with the new job I dont get to be on the OC as much so it is a win win for everyone.