Hb31187
Posts: 8,534
May 30, 2010 2:05am
I knew he wasnt going to stand and throw, he wuold get destroyed.
But this lay n pray wall n stall stuff makes the sport fucking pitiful to watch. Sure strategy is great and what not, and I understand wrestling is part of the sport. But that kinda shit is almost embarassing, its ilke saying "I know i have no shot if we go at it the whole fight....So im gonna try and make sure nobody throws punches this fight"
But this lay n pray wall n stall stuff makes the sport fucking pitiful to watch. Sure strategy is great and what not, and I understand wrestling is part of the sport. But that kinda shit is almost embarassing, its ilke saying "I know i have no shot if we go at it the whole fight....So im gonna try and make sure nobody throws punches this fight"
Rebel_ I.N.S.
Posts: 385
May 30, 2010 2:07am
Brother I'm a Shogun fan from day one so back the fuck up.samuel adams wrote:And i'm sure you said Rampage was going to kill Rashad and i'm sure you said Machida was going to kill Shogun...your just another guy that hates Rashad and predicts his fights based on that.Rebel_ I.N.S. wrote: Shogun will destroy Evans mark it down.
Tiny285Joey
Posts: 260
May 30, 2010 2:08am
Then the opponent of the wrestler should 1)learn to sprawl, 2) throw combos instead of backing and trying to counter all night. Rampage waited and waited on Rashad, thats why he lost. Rashad initiated the action and finished by taking Rampage down or controlling him against the cage, while working for another takedown.
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Machete_French
Posts: 8
May 30, 2010 2:09am
Hb31187, then you might as well watch boxing. MMA is a sport of athletes whom are well rounded in a lot of different disciplines and don't just throw fists to beat their opponents. Also, there's no way Rashad is going into that fight planning on standing with Rampage and throwing punches. That would've been stupid on his part.
Hb31187
Posts: 8,534
May 30, 2010 2:09am
He cant throw a combo when Rashad had his tail between his legs taking off anytime Rampage took a step towards him lol
Hb31187
Posts: 8,534
May 30, 2010 2:10am
He didnt throw anything to beat his opponent lolMachete_French wrote: Hb31187, then you might as well watch boxing. MMA is a sport of athletes whom are well rounded in a lot of different disciplines and don't just throw fists to beat their opponents. Also, there's no way Rashad is going into that fight planning on standing with Rampage and throwing punches. That would've been stupid on his part.
Tiny285Joey
Posts: 260
May 30, 2010 2:12am
Compubox had Rashad landing and throwing more strikes than RampageHb31187 wrote:He didnt throw anything to beat his opponent lolMachete_French wrote: Hb31187, then you might as well watch boxing. MMA is a sport of athletes whom are well rounded in a lot of different disciplines and don't just throw fists to beat their opponents. Also, there's no way Rashad is going into that fight planning on standing with Rampage and throwing punches. That would've been stupid on his part.
Hb31187
Posts: 8,534
May 30, 2010 2:12am
Seriously?
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samuel adams
Posts: 47
May 30, 2010 2:14am
What strikes, besides in the 3rd, did Rampage land??? He hardly landed or threw anything in the 1st two rounds.Hb31187 wrote: Seriously?
Tiny285Joey
Posts: 260
May 30, 2010 2:14am
Yeah lol, thats how little Rampage actually did. Ring rust is a bitch
Hb31187
Posts: 8,534
May 30, 2010 2:20am
Lol when Rashads runnign away or stalling against the fence its kinda hard to land strikes. But i guess more power to em
hoops23
Posts: 15,696
May 30, 2010 2:48am
My thoughts:
Rashad didn't win the fight. I mean yeah, he obviously won, but he didn't do anything to win it.
Rampage had his ass finished in the 3rd round. Rashad was lucky to escape. Rampage just didn't land the finishing punches on the ground.
It was obvious that the 14 months really messed up Rampages game. Ring Rust and taking time off to film a movie is what lost Rampage this fight. Despite all that, this was still a very close UD, even though Rashad was "in the best shape of his life and took this fight more seriously than any other".
With that said, I have no doubt, a re-focused Rampage is about to come back to the UFC. A dude who if faced with a rematch against Rashad, will probably KO him by the end of the 2nd round.
Rashad didn't win the fight. I mean yeah, he obviously won, but he didn't do anything to win it.
Rampage had his ass finished in the 3rd round. Rashad was lucky to escape. Rampage just didn't land the finishing punches on the ground.
It was obvious that the 14 months really messed up Rampages game. Ring Rust and taking time off to film a movie is what lost Rampage this fight. Despite all that, this was still a very close UD, even though Rashad was "in the best shape of his life and took this fight more seriously than any other".
With that said, I have no doubt, a re-focused Rampage is about to come back to the UFC. A dude who if faced with a rematch against Rashad, will probably KO him by the end of the 2nd round.
gerb131
Posts: 9,932
May 30, 2010 11:45am
Glad I got the fights last night. They were definitely good from the beginning to the end even though Rampage got beat and that seemed to sour the mood for a time.
Tiny285Joey
Posts: 260
May 30, 2010 12:29pm
I agree there wasn't a fight on the PPV where I was bored. The prelims were garbage however.gerb131 wrote: Glad I got the fights last night. They were definitely good from the beginning to the end even though Rampage got beat and that seemed to sour the mood for a time.
2quik4u
Posts: 4,388
May 30, 2010 12:37pm
yea there not gonna be on the ropes for 3/4 of the fucking fightGoChiefs wrote: Yes, b/c theres never any horrible boxing matches! Great win by Rashad. Glad to see him come away with it.
Tiny285Joey
Posts: 260
May 30, 2010 12:46pm
No they'll just punch, punch, clinch, get separated....rinse and repeat.2quik4u wrote:yea there not gonna be on the ropes for 3/4 of the fucking fightGoChiefs wrote: Yes, b/c theres never any horrible boxing matches! Great win by Rashad. Glad to see him come away with it.
2quik4u
Posts: 4,388
May 30, 2010 1:00pm
they get separated after 5 seconds not after 2 minutesTiny285Joey wrote:No they'll just punch, punch, clinch, get separated....rinse and repeat.2quik4u wrote:yea there not gonna be on the ropes for 3/4 of the fucking fightGoChiefs wrote: Yes, b/c theres never any horrible boxing matches! Great win by Rashad. Glad to see him come away with it.
Fab1b
Posts: 12,949
May 30, 2010 1:42pm
Had some time to think about last night's event and sleep off all the beers I drank. I was very let down by this card in terms of action. Lil Nog better be thanking his lucky stars, what a robbery that decision was!! I don't get Bisbing wanting a shot at the belt/Silva he doesn't deserve it. Rampage and Rashad was not the brawl I thought it be. However Rashad fought the smart fight and did what he had to do. The surprise of the night was seeing a over hyped Duffee get KTFO by a Roy Nelson wanna be 
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Fab1b
Posts: 12,949
May 30, 2010 1:45pm
Right then right back to holding each other against the ropes. If you don't like MMA don't watch it, watch the boxing and be happy!2quik4u wrote:they get separated after 5 seconds not after 2 minutesTiny285Joey wrote:No they'll just punch, punch, clinch, get separated....rinse and repeat.2quik4u wrote:yea there not gonna be on the ropes for 3/4 of the fucking fightGoChiefs wrote: Yes, b/c theres never any horrible boxing matches! Great win by Rashad. Glad to see him come away with it.
End of Line
Posts: 6,867
May 30, 2010 1:48pm
-Lil Nog got lucky he won that fight, Brilz should've won
-Diego needs to go back to LW fast......
-Bisping really isn't that great. Once he fights top tier talent he gets shitted on.
-The over-hyped Duffee got KTFO!!!
-What do you know, Rashad in another boring fight. Rampage didn't do enough other than the 3rd round flurry where he should've finished the fight. Once Rashad fights Shogun, it's all over, Shogun will put his ass asleep.
-Diego needs to go back to LW fast......
-Bisping really isn't that great. Once he fights top tier talent he gets shitted on.
-The over-hyped Duffee got KTFO!!!
-What do you know, Rashad in another boring fight. Rampage didn't do enough other than the 3rd round flurry where he should've finished the fight. Once Rashad fights Shogun, it's all over, Shogun will put his ass asleep.
Fab1b
Posts: 12,949
May 30, 2010 1:52pm
I agree Sanchez is better suited for 155
End of Line
Posts: 6,867
May 30, 2010 2:03pm
Bisping wants rematch with Wanderlei
http://mmajunkie.com/news/19356/bisping-says-technique-to-blame-for-recent-power-outage-eyes-silva-rematch-title-in-2010.mma
http://mmajunkie.com/news/19356/bisping-says-technique-to-blame-for-recent-power-outage-eyes-silva-rematch-title-in-2010.mma
Benny The Jet
Posts: 2,987
May 30, 2010 2:38pm
Did anyone else think it was the funniest thing in the world watching Duffee gettin knocked out? Not really the punch that knocked him out, but the part where when he went down Russow climbing up him and giving him a little love tap in the face just to make sure. The whole bar was cracking up when they showed the replays of him gently tapping him on the face.
End of Line
Posts: 6,867
May 30, 2010 2:47pm
^^^I thought that was pretty funny too. Russow just pawed at his face.
Hb31187
Posts: 8,534
Jun 1, 2010 11:14am
Question for you "wrestling is part of the game get over it" people.
If you think take downs and wall n stall and lay and pray are so important even if you inflict little to no damage...Dont you think unsuccessful takedowns, like the 5 or more in the rampage evans fight that lead to just being against the fence stalling, should count against the fighter who attempted the take down?
If you think take downs and wall n stall and lay and pray are so important even if you inflict little to no damage...Dont you think unsuccessful takedowns, like the 5 or more in the rampage evans fight that lead to just being against the fence stalling, should count against the fighter who attempted the take down?