Fab1b
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Apr 21, 2014 11:01pm
Sux I'll miss it Sat night due to a trip but this fight will be good. I think Glover can win but like said above I won't be surprised if Jones just comes out like a caged lion and destroys him either.
Raw Dawgin' it
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Apr 22, 2014 9:49am
I don't think Glover gets inside to tag him. Bader almost put Glover away, so I think Jones finishes him before Glover has a chance to hit him. Gus negated the reach advantage.robj55;1607696 wrote:Plus I think Jon has lost that aura of invincibility that he had prior to the Gus fight. Now watch Jon will probably come out extra motivated and blow Glover's doors off lol
robj55
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Apr 22, 2014 11:59am
Glover has good head movement and is very aggressive so it will be interesting. Bader also hits like a truck and Jon hasn't shown anywhere near that type of power yet.Raw Dawgin' it;1607846 wrote:I don't think Glover gets inside to tag him. Bader almost put Glover away, so I think Jones finishes him before Glover has a chance to hit him. Gus negated the reach advantage.
Raw Dawgin' it
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Apr 22, 2014 1:18pm
True - but Jones has that reach and those elbows. I just think Glover will eat a lot of damage trying to get in close. Rashad tagged Jones pretty good and Glover seems to hit harder, so one punch may change the entire fight.robj55;1607913 wrote:Glover has good head movement and is very aggressive so it will be interesting. Bader also hits like a truck and Jon hasn't shown anywhere near that type of power yet.
Pick6
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Apr 22, 2014 1:33pm
Lol Jones is gonna make Texiera his bitch. He's beaten nobody really and is way too one dimensional.
tbh, if it weren't for the opportunity to see jones in the octagon, id be more excited for the co-main.
tbh, if it weren't for the opportunity to see jones in the octagon, id be more excited for the co-main.
robj55
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Apr 22, 2014 2:01pm
Glover is way more than one dimensional, great striker with power, very good wrestling and bjj and he is aggressive. He is on par with any of Jon's opponents up to date. He hasn't lost in 9 years lol. Kingsbury, Maldonado, Rampage, Te Huna and Bader is a very impressive run in the UFC, especially with how he's dominated all of them.Pick6;1607951 wrote:Lol Jones is gonna make Texiera his bitch. He's beaten nobody really and is way too one dimensional.
tbh, if it weren't for the opportunity to see jones in the octagon, id be more excited for the co-main.
robj55
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Apr 22, 2014 2:04pm
Yeah but it seemed like Rashad mentally checked out of that fight after the second round, I can almost guarantee that Glover won't He will be going in to finish the entire time until he gets it or gets finished.Raw Dawgin' it;1607945 wrote:True - but Jones has that reach and those elbows. I just think Glover will eat a lot of damage trying to get in close. Rashad tagged Jones pretty good and Glover seems to hit harder, so one punch may change the entire fight.
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sportchampps
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Apr 22, 2014 9:39pm
Bader almost beat him and Jones would just demolish Bader these days
robj55
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Apr 22, 2014 10:31pm
That's not the way it works though, Glover got clipped being aggressive against a huge power puncher in Bader, who he then went on to knock out. Hard to use MMA math in this case.sportchampps;1608171 wrote:Bader almost beat him and Jones would just demolish Bader these days
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sportchampps
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Apr 22, 2014 10:39pm
But Bader is the best guy he has fought and he almost lost. Can Glover win yeah if he lands the perfect shot. I would only give him about a 10% chance of winning.
robj55
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Apr 22, 2014 10:43pm
Anyone can almost lose in MMA, you are always seconds away from victory and defeat. I would argue that Rampage is his best win and he smashed him for 3 rounds basically. I think Glover is far more dangerous than Gus is, it's just a question of whether he will be able to stuff take downs and get in range to do damage. I will probably end up picking Jon because he is so dynamic and a winner but Glover is a live dog imo.sportchampps;1608188 wrote:But Bader is the best guy he has fought and he almost lost. Can Glover win yeah if he lands the perfect shot. I would only give him about a 10% chance of winning.
Pick6
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Apr 23, 2014 8:03am
Didn't Glover get Rampage in his last right ever in UFC? Not helping his case for a "great" win.robj55;1608189 wrote:Anyone can almost lose in MMA, you are always seconds away from victory and defeat. I would argue that Rampage is his best win and he smashed him for 3 rounds basically. I think Glover is far more dangerous than Gus is, it's just a question of whether he will be able to stuff take downs and get in range to do damage. I will probably end up picking Jon because he is so dynamic and a winner but Glover is a live dog imo.
Raw Dawgin' it
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Apr 23, 2014 9:12am
He beat him up for 3 rounds and was never in danger or losing. If you use this argument you could discredit a bunch of Jones wins: Rampage, Shogun, and BonnarPick6;1608216 wrote:Didn't Glover get Rampage in his last right ever in UFC? Not helping his case for a "great" win.
Pick6
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Apr 23, 2014 10:14am
Jones fought Rampage nearly a year and a half before Tex..Jones took the belt from Shogun and Shogun has been in the UFC for years after. Every single fight Jones is up against the best people in the world. There is no discrediting anything about him. I really don't understand your point.Raw Dawgin' it;1608234 wrote:He beat him up for 3 rounds and was never in danger or losing. If you use this argument you could discredit a bunch of Jones wins: Rampage, Shogun, and Bonnar
Raw Dawgin' it
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Apr 23, 2014 10:34am
My point was you're trying to discredit Glover against Rampage for being over the hill, but not discrediting Jones for beating guys who were as well. Lets be honest, Shogun had the belt during a time when LHW was weak (imo).Pick6;1608255 wrote:Jones fought Rampage nearly a year and a half before Tex..Jones took the belt from Shogun and Shogun has been in the UFC for years after. Every single fight Jones is up against the best people in the world. There is no discrediting anything about him. I really don't understand your point.
I think Jones wins, but I think next to Machida and Gus - this is his hardest fight.
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sportchampps
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Apr 23, 2014 10:39am
I would say Gus Belfort machida were the bigger threats he has faced. I would have Glover probably tied with Evans after those 3.
robj55
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Apr 23, 2014 11:59am
I don't think anyone can discredit anything that Jones has done, more so just stating that Glover is underrated and being overlooked. You win 20 straight fights and go undefeated for 9 years and you are a stud period.
Fab1b
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Apr 23, 2014 4:00pm
^100% agree
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Zoltan
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Apr 24, 2014 8:53pm
Glover by Longo leg check wins this!
Anyone have thoughts on the UFC possibly getting uniforms for the fighters to wear? Awful idea IMO. Fighting sports are about stars and this hurts their individuality. Fight fans care more about who is doing the fighting, than the actual fighting.
Anyone have thoughts on the UFC possibly getting uniforms for the fighters to wear? Awful idea IMO. Fighting sports are about stars and this hurts their individuality. Fight fans care more about who is doing the fighting, than the actual fighting.
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sportchampps
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Apr 24, 2014 9:04pm
I don't like the uniform idea but I've heard their really not that bad
robj55
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Apr 24, 2014 9:23pm
From what I understand they will still be able to wear sponsors which is what matters.
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Zoltan
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Apr 25, 2014 9:02am
Would GSP be able to wear his karate uniform? Little things like that are important IMO.
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sportchampps
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Apr 25, 2014 9:16am
GSP never wore the karate uniform to fight only when he entered the octagon so I don't see that changing at all
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Zoltan
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Apr 25, 2014 10:32am
That's why I was asking, as I thought it was regulating what they could wear when the walked out and all that. If not, it's no big deal.sportchampps;1608998 wrote:GSP never wore the karate uniform to fight only when he entered the octagon so I don't see that changing at all
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Zoltan
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Apr 25, 2014 11:14am
Also seeing that Cain might not fight until 2015 with his injuries and TUF coaching gig. That would give him 5 fights in the last four years. It's a shame his prime is being wasted to injuries.