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I Wear Pants
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Jul 8, 2012 1:31pm
Sonnen should not have thrown that, no reason to throw shit like that when he was winning at that point/the gameplan was working. Oh well, c'est la vie.
bigdaddy2003
Posts: 7,384
Jul 8, 2012 1:36pm
This. The friend I bet 20 bones with was complaining as soon as the fight was over. He had been talking so much shit about Sonnen stomping Silva that making excuses was his only defense. He wrote to me after the first round. Round 1 - Sonnen. I replied with fight - Silva and he was pissed. Hasportchampps;1220750 wrote:The knee hit him direct in the middle of the chest the thigh barley grazed his chin. It was very similar to the knee rashad used to beat Tito in their fight. No one called that illegal. It's only haters complaining today.
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jmog
Posts: 6,567
Jul 8, 2012 1:45pm
I am actually a Silva fan and at full speed I swore it was Illegal. Only on rewind and slow motion did I realize it hit the chest first. If the thigh would have hit the face a split second earlier it is an illegal knee.sportchampps;1220750 wrote:The knee hit him direct in the middle of the chest the thigh barley grazed his chin. It was very similar to the knee rashad used to beat Tito in their fight. No one called that illegal. It's only haters complaining today.
Scarlet_Buckeye
Posts: 5,264
Jul 8, 2012 2:28pm
Silva's knee was VERY close to being illegal - and this is coming from a Silva fan. At 1st glance, I actually thought it WAS illegal (and I think the referree did too as you can clearly see him rush in there like he was going to stop the fight, but thought better of it). After watching the .gif DeadliestWarrior supplied up above about 15x, I think anyone with knowledge of MMA would have to agree that the knee was in fact LEGAL(as it makes contact with the body first, not Chael's head).
Silva is just a freak-of-nature. That duck-and-roll was superb.
Silva is just a freak-of-nature. That duck-and-roll was superb.
End of Line
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Jul 8, 2012 2:28pm
Everyone at the Bdubs I was at thought it was illegal, as did I.
Fab1b
Posts: 12,949
Jul 8, 2012 2:32pm
Lackluster card last night IMO was hoping for some major fireworks in both the Tito/Forrest and Silva/Sonnen fights but to me they lacked. Oh well.
End of Line
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Jul 8, 2012 2:33pm
What I didn't care for was this.
bigdaddy2003
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Jul 8, 2012 2:35pm
Knee was almost illegal but wasnt. Card was definitely lackluster though.
Fab1b
Posts: 12,949
Jul 8, 2012 2:40pm
Agree real time I thought the knee was illegal until the replay, kudos to the ref for not stopping that as an illegal strike!
Raw Dawgin' it
Posts: 11,466
Jul 8, 2012 3:36pm
I only ordered the card for the main event - i was pretty happy when the mendes and maia fights ended so fast. I really thought after rd. 1 chael was going to get the win, but when he missed on two shots in round two you knew he was in trouble - when silva has the chance to finish, unlike chael who was in mount and did nothing. Silva is that good, we'll probably see him fight Jones, but I'm 100% pulling for Hendo to land that right hand and win the belt.
2kool4skool
Posts: 1,804
Jul 8, 2012 4:09pm
The knee was legal, barely, and it may not have been intended to be, but still legal.
What's more concerning is Silva's blatant attempt to grease(2nd time he's done it, did it before the Belfort fight too) and the grabbing of the shorts. Of course, he gives some little speech after he wins and all of a sudden people forgive all his atrocious behavior leading up to and during the fight. Standard Anderson Silva.
What's more concerning is Silva's blatant attempt to grease(2nd time he's done it, did it before the Belfort fight too) and the grabbing of the shorts. Of course, he gives some little speech after he wins and all of a sudden people forgive all his atrocious behavior leading up to and during the fight. Standard Anderson Silva.
End of Line
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Jul 8, 2012 4:28pm
I'm just glad they caught him greasing this time.2kool4skool;1220898 wrote:The knee was legal, barely, and it may not have been intended to be, but still legal.
What's more concerning is Silva's blatant attempt to grease(2nd time he's done it, did it before the Belfort fight too) and the grabbing of the shorts. Of course, he gives some little speech after he wins and all of a sudden people forgive all his atrocious behavior leading up to and during the fight. Standard Anderson Silva.
2kool4skool
Posts: 1,804
Jul 8, 2012 4:41pm
But what does it matter? What's the incentive not to try? MMA is such a bizarre sport. You're basically allowed to break every rule once with no penalty. Grease, grab the shorts, gab the fence, poke the eyes, kick the groin, first time is a freebie.The_Crosby_Show;1220917 wrote:I'm just glad they caught him greasing this time.
Everyone knows the rules going in, if you break one, you're penalized. Why is that possibly not the way things work?
Scarlet_Buckeye
Posts: 5,264
Jul 8, 2012 4:47pm
Did I miss something? Silva was caught greasing? When? I must have missed this (granted, I was at a very loud and ruckus bar).The_Crosby_Show;1220917 wrote:I'm just glad they caught him greasing this time.
bigdaddy2003
Posts: 7,384
Jul 8, 2012 4:49pm
Right before the ref brought them to the center of the octagon. The ref asked for a towel and wiped him off. It's the first time I have ever noticed him doing it. I didn't know he did it before the Belfort fight but I guess I wasn't paying much attention.Scarlet_Buckeye;1220935 wrote:Did I miss something? Silva was caught greasing? When? I must have missed this (granted, I was at a very loud and ruckus bar).
Pick6
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Jul 8, 2012 4:57pm
Nice to see the haters out in full force. Silva won. Enough excuses and complaining.
2kool4skool
Posts: 1,804
Jul 8, 2012 5:04pm
Haven't seen anyone do that. None of those actions had anything to do with why he won the fight. But for as much as he talks about respecting the sport, the belt, etc. I'm not sure blatantly trying to grease twice is the most honorable thing.Pick6;1220941 wrote:Nice to see the haters out in full force. Silva won. Enough excuses and complaining.
robj55
Posts: 9,511
Jul 8, 2012 5:14pm
There are only two men outside of heavyweight that could beat Anderson Silva imo, neither of whom he will fight. One is one of his best friends, and the other is Jon Jones. After what I saw last night, I don't think GSP would have much of a shot really.
bigdaddy2003
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Jul 8, 2012 5:25pm
I just took a peak at 149's card. For some reason I thought I remembered it being pretty decent but I was wrong.
robj55
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Jul 8, 2012 5:29pm
That card was loaded initially, but it has been decimated by injuries. Huge names and match ups dropped off of it.bigdaddy2003;1220965 wrote:I just took a peak at 149's card. For some reason I thought I remembered it being pretty decent but I was wrong.
bigdaddy2003
Posts: 7,384
Jul 8, 2012 5:32pm
I'm interested in watching Renan Barao and Hector Lombard because I have never watched either of them fight but other than that it's a tough buy.
Edit post: I guess I have watched Barao once. I just read that he fought Scott Jeorgensen (spelling?) at 143. I don't remember the fight.
Edit post: I guess I have watched Barao once. I just read that he fought Scott Jeorgensen (spelling?) at 143. I don't remember the fight.
robj55
Posts: 9,511
Jul 8, 2012 5:44pm
Barao is a beast, he is as explosive as a Jose Aldo. Lombard has been steam rolling people, he is a world class judoka and has won 26 fights in a row. He obviously hasn't been facing the top level guys but he is a scary dude. Has anyone heard what happened with Dung Hyun Kim officially? I have heard broken ribs and a broken hip but I'm not sure.
IggyPride00
Posts: 6,482
Jul 8, 2012 5:50pm
It's about time for Chael to call Vinnie Mac I think. Not really sure where he goes from here as far as a UFC future goes after running his mouth for 2 years like that and then getting stopped in the 2nd round.
Pick6
Posts: 14,946
Jul 8, 2012 5:53pm
robj55;1220951 wrote:There are only two men outside of heavyweight that could beat Anderson Silva imo, neither of whom he will fight. One is one of his best friends, and the other is Jon Jones. After what I saw last night, I don't think GSP would have much of a shot really.
I'd love to see GSP and Silva fight, though I think Silva would win. He is just on another level
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I Wear Pants
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Jul 8, 2012 8:35pm
Lombard is suspect. He's never fought anyone even close to top level.robj55;1220984 wrote:Barao is a beast, he is as explosive as a Jose Aldo. Lombard has been steam rolling people, he is a world class judoka and has won 26 fights in a row. He obviously hasn't been facing the top level guys but he is a scary dude. Has anyone heard what happened with Dung Hyun Kim officially? I have heard broken ribs and a broken hip but I'm not sure.