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Jun 22, 2012 11:44am
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Jun 22, 2012 11:50am
He's irrelevant now. Pulling for Guida tonight!
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Jun 22, 2012 11:54am
Looking forward to tonight. Also always been a big Spencer Fisher fan! Doesn't always win but always comes to fight. He and Stout should throw bombs tonight!
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Jun 22, 2012 11:59am
Fab1b;1208973 wrote:Looking forward to tonight. Also always been a big Spencer Fisher fan! Doesn't always win but always comes to fight. He and Stout should throw bombs tonight!
Me too, this could be his last fight as well, hopefully he goes out with a bang.
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Jun 22, 2012 12:00pm
Fedor will be back, I don't buy the retirement. He still looks good, explosive, fast hands, strong and in good condition.
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Jun 22, 2012 4:27pm
robj55;1208983 wrote:Fedor will be back, I don't buy the retirement. He still looks good, explosive, fast hands, strong and in good condition.
I hope so, guy puts on fun fights.
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Jun 22, 2012 5:02pm
I Wear Pants;1209378 wrote:I hope so, guy puts on fun fights.
I agree, one of the most entertaining HW's/fighters on the planet. He always goes for the finish, even if it means putting himself in trouble to do so(Werdum fight).
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Jun 22, 2012 5:09pm
Thanks for the reminder about tonight. Been kinda quiet but I'll say this
NNNNiiiicccccKKKKK DDDDDiiiaaaaZZZZZ still my boy.
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Jun 22, 2012 11:18pm
What a complete a total joke, fuck Greg Jackson and Mike Winkeljohn. Can't believe I actually used to enjoy watching Clay Guida fight.
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Jun 22, 2012 11:23pm
Justice was served, Gray won a split decision. Clay ran the entire fight, he went minutes without throwing anything other than jab feints. Greg Jackson gameplans are killing this sport.
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Jun 22, 2012 11:53pm
robj55;1209689 wrote:Justice was served, Gray won a split decision. Clay ran the entire fight, he went minutes without throwing anything other than jab feints. Greg Jackson gameplans are killing this sport.
Yup reminds me of a not long ago fight but the decision went the other way. Maynard looked pretty good, overall a good card. That dork with the arrow shaved in his chest was awkward to watch but he beat that dude up. Good card. These free fights have been really good.
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Jun 23, 2012 2:24am
Gray deserved the win. Watching guidae kills me. Even when he gets takedowns he usually just bounces side to side with no real damage being done but enough so the ref doesn't stand them up. Tonight he just ran it wasn't circling or good footwork it was backpedaling. He didn't return to the center of the octagon he ran around the outside of the octagon. I loved gray flicking him off and saying f u in the middle of the fight. I just wish he woulda really let him have it during the interview
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Jun 23, 2012 11:40am
Guida killed that event last night, and I like Guida but damn that was awful. Maynard def won!
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Jun 23, 2012 12:17pm
That was hilarious when Gray flicked him off and dropped his hands letting him tee off, best part of the fight! Guida's performance was embarrassing to himself and to the sport. Greg Jackson at his finest.

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Jun 24, 2012 12:28am
Franklin/Silva is pretty sweet so far.
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Jun 24, 2012 12:43am
These two are awesome.
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Jun 24, 2012 12:54am
Pretty damn great fight, Rich looked as sharp as ever and came back from some serious adversity after the 2nd. Also, there is some serious talent from that TUF Brazil, I was impressed with a lot of guys and how technical they were. Wanderlei didn't look as bad as I thought he would, perhaps he does have some years left in it, he took some big shots from Franklin and Rich is pretty heavy handed.
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Jun 24, 2012 1:11am
I only got to watch the last two fights but damn the main event was great. Franklin was lucky to finish the second but won the last 3 rounds on heart and auto pilot. Tuf brazil has so e talent from what I saw on the show. Where does Franklin go from here.
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Jun 24, 2012 1:18am
Werdum finished Russow in the first round as well, which is extremely impressive because that dude has a beard and is tough as hell. Franklin says he is going to try and make a run at 185 belt, he certainly looked great tonight for 37 years old. Would like to see a fight between him and Brian Stann.
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Jun 24, 2012 10:49am
Give me bisping vs Franklin
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Jun 24, 2012 11:43am
Card looked kinda lackluster I read the fight recaps.
Rather shocked by Franklin to be honest.
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Jun 24, 2012 12:12pm
robj55;1209842 wrote:That was hilarious when Gray flicked him off and dropped his hands letting him tee off, best part of the fight! Guida's performance was embarrassing to himself and to the sport. Greg Jackson at his finest.

I think its a little too easy to just to blame Greg Jackson. Inside MMA showed a stat that his fighters actually finish fights at a slightly higher rate than the UFC average. I think because GSP is so well known, and not a slug fest type fighter, Jackson gets blamed. Not to mention that GSP hardly ever trains at Jackson's anymore.

Also, what about Cerrone, Guilard, Jones, Leonard Garcia, etc? All Jackson fighters that are usually called exciting. I just think Clay tried to do what Edgar did to Maynard, but he just isn't good enough to do it.
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Jun 24, 2012 12:33pm
Zoltan;1210258 wrote:I think its a little too easy to just to blame Greg Jackson. Inside MMA showed a stat that his fighters actually finish fights at a slightly higher rate than the UFC average. I think because GSP is so well known, and not a slug fest type fighter, Jackson gets blamed. Not to mention that GSP hardly ever trains at Jackson's anymore.

Also, what about Cerrone, Guilard, Jones, Leonard Garcia, etc? All Jackson fighters that are usually called exciting. I just think Clay tried to do what Edgar did to Maynard, but he just isn't good enough to do it.
What about what Clay did against Nate Diaz and Anthony Pettis? Everytime he faces someone who is better than him and more skilled he stalls. Yes they do have some guys who are finishers(Cerrone, Stann, Jones) but they also quite frequently come up with boring game plans and attempt to point fight and avoid the fight in large. Did Clay really think that performance was going to impress Dana and get him a potential title shot? Dana hates guys who don't come to fight for the fans and finish. Gray Maynard has good power but he's no Paul Daley or Melvin Guillard, I understand not wanting to exchange in large part but who's the last guy that Gray has knocked out? It's been 5 years since he stopped someone due to strikes and Clay is known for having a pretty good chin.
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Jun 25, 2012 8:27am
Guillard, Guida, Condit, and even Jones have gotten less exciting. Jones fight against Rashad i expected a finish but he seemed to hold back.
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Jun 25, 2012 11:11am
Raw Dawgin' it;1210879 wrote:Guillard, Guida, Condit, and even Jones have gotten less exciting. Jones fight against Rashad i expected a finish but he seemed to hold back.
I disagree about Condit. It was one fight and it was the right strategy. Also, I think him "running" was severely over reported by fans. You'd have a point if he didn't land more strikes. (Significant and total).