chicago510
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Feb 5, 2012 10:33pm
If 30/40, No picks, 103.1 QBR in the Super Bowl is inaccurate than what is accurate? 40/40?
Skyhook79
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Feb 5, 2012 10:34pm
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You mean the pass that was thrown between 2 receivers and right on target?
You mean the pass that was thrown between 2 receivers and right on target?
gorocks99
Posts: 10,760
Feb 5, 2012 10:34pm
Manning was accurate, and his receivers are great. I'm bracing myself to get sick of hearing about New York for the next 7 months 
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mhs95_06
Posts: 8,167
Feb 5, 2012 10:35pm
Gronkowski would have had that tipped Hail Mary if he wouldn't have broke stride to put him in better position to adjust to where the ball might be tipped. He did the highest percentage thing by breaking stride, but it just didn't work out!
Skyhook79
Posts: 5,739
Feb 5, 2012 10:37pm
dlazz;1076588 wrote:The only clutchness on the field today was the Manningham(?) catch that was reviewed.
Looks like a perfectly thrown ball to me.
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MontyBrunswick
Feb 5, 2012 10:38pm
See above, where I already called him out for saying something to that affect.chicago510;1076596 wrote:If 30/40, No picks, 103.1 QBR in the Super Bowl is inaccurate than what is accurate? 40/40?
Mulva
Posts: 13,650
Feb 5, 2012 10:42pm
It's dumber to say Eli is in the same class as Peyton and Brady than it is to call him mediocre in my opinion.
He's been very clutch, but you can't discount the regular season, where 80+% of the games are played. He's better than mediocre, but he's a borderline top 10 QB at best. He was better than that this season, but unless this is the 1st step to him going Peyton 2003-2010 there is no comparison to be made.
He's been very clutch, but you can't discount the regular season, where 80+% of the games are played. He's better than mediocre, but he's a borderline top 10 QB at best. He was better than that this season, but unless this is the 1st step to him going Peyton 2003-2010 there is no comparison to be made.
Skyhook79
Posts: 5,739
Feb 5, 2012 10:43pm
Joe Montana had one of the best trio of receivers ever does that mean he is not an Elite QB also?SportsAndLady;1076592 wrote:In my opinion, the trio of Nicks, Cruz, and Manningham is one of the best in NFL history.
So I disagree the Pats' WRs are better.
chicago510
Posts: 5,728
Feb 5, 2012 10:44pm
He's not better than Peyton but hes definitely a top 10 QB and a future Hall of Famer. The better than Peyton talk this week was silly.Mulva;1076614 wrote:It's dumber to say Eli is in the same class as Peyton and Brady than it is to call him mediocre in my opinion.
He's been very clutch, but you can't discount the regular season, where 80+% of the games are played. He's better than mediocre, but he's a borderline top 10 QB at best. He was better than that this season, but unless this is the 1st step to him going Peyton 2003-2010 there is no comparison to be made.
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MontyBrunswick
Feb 5, 2012 10:44pm
Mediocre is probably an unfair word. I'd put him in the top 15, but probably not top 10.
He's going to the Hall of Fame just because he won two Super Bowls, not from his overall play.
He's going to the Hall of Fame just because he won two Super Bowls, not from his overall play.
chicago510
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Feb 5, 2012 10:45pm
Of all time?dlazz;1076620 wrote:Mediocre is probably an unfair word. I'd put him in the top 15, but probably not top 10.
Skyhook79
Posts: 5,739
Feb 5, 2012 10:46pm
But on the other hand you cannot discount the Playoffs and Super Bowls where 100% of Championships are won.Mulva;1076614 wrote:It's dumber to say Eli is in the same class as Peyton and Brady than it is to call him mediocre in my opinion.
He's been very clutch, but you can't discount the regular season, where 80+% of the games are played. He's better than mediocre, but he's a borderline top 10 QB at best. He was better than that this season, but unless this is the 1st step to him going Peyton 2003-2010 there is no comparison to be made.
Dan Marino was an awesome regular season QB not so much in the Playoffs and Super Bowl.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Feb 5, 2012 10:47pm
I don't give a shit about Joe Montana, I'm not 50Skyhook79;1076617 wrote:Joe Montana had one of the best trio of receivers ever does that mean he is not an Elite QB also?
Eli Manning is not an elite QB, sorry that hurts your feelings
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Feb 5, 2012 10:47pm
Is Robert Horry elite?Skyhook79;1076624 wrote:But on the other hand you cannot discount the Playoffs and Super Bowls where 100% of Championships are won.
Dan Marino was an awesome regular season QB not so much in the Playoffs and Super Bowl.
Boom
Skyhook79
Posts: 5,739
Feb 5, 2012 10:49pm
Pro Sports teams have this silly rule where every member of the team including trainers get Rings when they win the Championship. I know you are probally too young to realize that.SportsAndLady;1076627 wrote:Is Robert Horry elite?
Boom
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Feb 5, 2012 10:51pm
Robert Horry was clutch at the end of games, just like Eli.Skyhook79;1076630 wrote:Pro Sports teams have this silly rule where every member of the team including trainers get Rings when they win the Championship. I know you are probally too young to realize that.
They were/are both blessed with incredible talent around them. They are both not elite.
Eli manning is Robert Horry
Wildcat24
Posts: 261
Feb 5, 2012 10:53pm
Already mentioned, but congrats to Akron Zips Chase Blackburn AND Domenik Hixon, each picking up their second Super Bowl rings! Hixon was injured in week 2, which incidentally paved the way for Victor Cruz to emerge.
karen lotz
Posts: 22,284
Feb 5, 2012 10:54pm
SportsAndLady;1076592 wrote:In my opinion, the trio of Nicks, Cruz, and Manningham is one of the best in NFL history.
So I disagree the Pats' WRs are better.
Might be a little early for that kind of a statement, but I guess if you are going to say you don't care about Montana's trio, it really doesn't matter.
Skyhook79
Posts: 5,739
Feb 5, 2012 10:54pm
Did Robert Horry win 2 NBA Finals MVP's?SportsAndLady;1076633 wrote:Robert Horry was clutch at the end of games, just like Eli.
They were/are both blessed with incredible talent around them. They are both not elite.
Eli manning is Robert Horry
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Feb 5, 2012 10:57pm
Irrelevant.Skyhook79;1076638 wrote:Did Robert Horry win 2 NBA Finals MVP's?
Eli is Horry
chicago510
Posts: 5,728
Feb 5, 2012 10:57pm
Big difference between being a QB and a spot up 3 pt shooter.SportsAndLady;1076633 wrote:Robert Horry was clutch at the end of games, just like Eli.
They were/are both blessed with incredible talent around them. They are both not elite.
Eli manning is Robert Horry
Eli keeps his team in games then leads them on game winning 4th quarter drives....you cant compare that to basketball.
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MontyBrunswick
Feb 5, 2012 10:58pm
lol, no.chicago510;1076621 wrote:Of all time?
chicago510
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Feb 5, 2012 10:59pm
Just saying you can't possibly name 10-15 better starting QBs right now.dlazz;1076643 wrote:lol, no.
Mulva
Posts: 13,650
Feb 5, 2012 11:02pm
Brady, Rodgers, Brees, Peyton (when healthy), Stafford, Big Ben, Romo, and Rivers are all guys I take over Eli.chicago510;1076644 wrote:Just saying you can't possibly name 10-15 better starting QBs right now.
Ryan, Schaub, Flacco, and Vick are right there with him. Not so hard.
Skyhook79
Posts: 5,739
Feb 5, 2012 11:02pm
No they are the same.:rolleyes:chicago510;1076642 wrote:Big difference between being a QB and a spot up 3 pt shooter.
Eli keeps his team in games then leads them on game winning 4th quarter drives....you cant compare that to basketball.
#SportsAndLadylogic