gorocks99
Posts: 10,760
Feb 5, 2012 10:14pm
Are the Giants the new "evil empire"? They've won two out of the last five Super Bowls.
IggyPride00
Posts: 6,482
Feb 5, 2012 10:15pm
Seriously.Skyhook79;1076543 wrote:Mediocre QB's don't win 2 Super Bowl MVP's.
I am pretty sure if you substitute Colt McCoy in for Eli Manning the Giants aren't winning a SB, and everyone is talking about how desperately they need wide receivers.
Eli has some big stones on him.
Skyhook79
Posts: 5,739
Feb 5, 2012 10:15pm
No, it will always be Belichick, Brady and the Patriots as long as they are around.gorocks99;1076549 wrote:Are the Giants the new "evil empire"? They've won two out of the last four Super Bowls.
M
mhs95_06
Posts: 8,167
Feb 5, 2012 10:16pm
It was actually a very good precise throw by Brady who was trying to lead him safely away from the inside defender as there was no one outside. Welker just didn't come up with it, one that he usually does as he is excellent at adjusting to the ball in the air which is a big reason why he is a favorite of Brady. I think with all things considered it was a safer play to throw it where he did and figure that Welker could adjust than throw it right in stride to Welker and risk the inside defender knocking it loose!tk421;1076388 wrote:Wow, had Welker wide open and missed him. That could be huge.
chicago510
Posts: 5,728
Feb 5, 2012 10:18pm
Good god, I just wholeheartedly agreed with Skyhook.Skyhook79;1076543 wrote:Mediocre QB's don't win 2 Super Bowl MVP's.
gorocks99
Posts: 10,760
Feb 5, 2012 10:18pm
Fair enough, and I agree the Pats will continue to have that target on their back, but I think the Giants are approaching that territory. Definitely not the "lovable underdogs" after this one.Skyhook79;1076555 wrote:No, it will always be Belichick, Brady and the Patriots as long as they are around.
M
MontyBrunswick
Feb 5, 2012 10:18pm
Two good receivers does not equate to the > 2 good receivers that Manning has now.chicago510;1076537 wrote:Brady had Moss during his prime and Welker and still lost to Eli. Dont get your point?
He's still mediocre, and my opinion won't change. The only thing he succeeded in tonight was not turning over the ball.
Deperately needs to work on accuracy. Most of his throws tonight were behind receivers.
DeyDurkie5
Posts: 11,324
Feb 5, 2012 10:19pm
250$ my way
chicago510
Posts: 5,728
Feb 5, 2012 10:19pm
Can't say I'm sad to see Belichick lose 2 straight.
Skyhook79
Posts: 5,739
Feb 5, 2012 10:21pm
I know 75% completion rate in a Super Bowl sucks.:rolleyes:dlazz;1076563 wrote:Two good receivers does not equate to the > 2 good receivers that Manning has now.
He's still mediocre, and my opinion won't change. The only thing he succeeded in tonight was not turning over the ball.
Deperately needs to work on accuracy. Most of his throws tonight were behind receivers.
DeyDurkie5
Posts: 11,324
Feb 5, 2012 10:22pm
75% completion rate, but one very bad missSkyhook79;1076567 wrote:I know 75% completion rate in a Super Bowl sucks.:rolleyes:
M
MontyBrunswick
Feb 5, 2012 10:22pm
Apparently you missed the part about his receivers being awesome. Just because he had a high completion percentage doesn't mean his balls are accurate. A lot of them were high, or behind receivers. He was lucky none of them were tipped and intercepted.Skyhook79;1076567 wrote:I know 75% completion rate in a Super Bowl sucks.:rolleyes:
DeyDurkie5
Posts: 11,324
Feb 5, 2012 10:23pm
first time where you have sounded retarded on this site...eli balled out, nothing more to say than thatdlazz;1076570 wrote:Apparently you missed the part about his receivers being awesome. Just because he had a high completion percentage doesn't mean his balls are accurate. A lot of them were high, or behind receivers. He was lucky none of them were tipped and intercepted.
M
mhs95_06
Posts: 8,167
Feb 5, 2012 10:23pm
The last 3 games, two conference championships and this game, as a group, were probably the best 3 games of any NFL season's final 3 games!like_that;1076503 wrote:That game just felt pretty anticlimatic.
chicago510
Posts: 5,728
Feb 5, 2012 10:24pm
While I understand your criticisms of Eli, the 2 super bowls and all the 4th qtr comebacks speak for themselves.dlazz;1076563 wrote:Two good receivers does not equate to the > 2 good receivers that Manning has now.
He's still mediocre, and my opinion won't change. The only thing he succeeded in tonight was not turning over the ball.
Deperately needs to work on accuracy. Most of his throws tonight were behind receivers.
Also, Randy Moss had the greatest WR season of all time and Welker had a GREAT year. They were way better than this years NYG.
Skyhook79
Posts: 5,739
Feb 5, 2012 10:24pm
Apparently you watched a different game than most people did.dlazz;1076570 wrote:Apparently you missed the part about his receivers being awesome. Just because he had a high completion percentage doesn't mean his balls are accurate. A lot of them were high, or behind receivers. He was lucky none of them were tipped and intercepted.
chicago510
Posts: 5,728
Feb 5, 2012 10:24pm
Only guy I feel bad for is Robert Kraft. Great guy, lost his wife, owns his team the right way, instrumental in ending lockout. Hurt to watch that.
IggyPride00
Posts: 6,482
Feb 5, 2012 10:24pm
Find me an inaccurate QB then, because all the accurate ones were ringless this year. It is a wildly overrated stat.He lacks in accuracy.
I will take clutchness over accuracy any day of the week and twice on Sunday.
That throw to Manningham literally couldn't have been thrown any better in a tighter window. For as good a catch it the throw was even better under the circumstances.
dazedconfused
Posts: 2,662
Feb 5, 2012 10:25pm
i never thought a day would come that saw me agreeing with skyhook
Heretic
Posts: 18,820
Feb 5, 2012 10:28pm
Nice seeing that no-name-in-the-grand-scheme-of-things guy from Ohio (Blackburn, who was who was signed only a few weeks ago, right?) get a big red zone pick to really halt any momentum the Pats might have been getting offensively. One of those little things that pays off for a team...the exact opposite of, say, cutting a guy so Ocho can be on the active roster.
Terry_Tate
Posts: 7,606
Feb 5, 2012 10:30pm
I'm watching the highlights and haven't seen one ball to a WR that was completed that was "inaccurate". It's only been 8 or so passes, but Eli hardly constituted being called inaccurate tonight. He bounced a few passes, but 75% is fantastic.
M
mhs95_06
Posts: 8,167
Feb 5, 2012 10:30pm
Some were thrown in more difficult places due to keeping it away from the defenders. High ones especially! Some were just high enough to get over the front defenders and came in just barely low enough for the receivers to catch. The hitting defenseless receivers rule helps high passes be more effective now.dlazz;1076570 wrote:Apparently you missed the part about his receivers being awesome. Just because he had a high completion percentage doesn't mean his balls are accurate. A lot of them were high, or behind receivers. He was lucky none of them were tipped and intercepted.
M
MontyBrunswick
Feb 5, 2012 10:30pm
The only clutchness on the field today was the Manningham(?) catch that was reviewed.IggyPride00;1076576 wrote:I will take clutchness over accuracy any day of the week and twice on Sunday.
LJ
Posts: 16,351
Feb 5, 2012 10:31pm
Heretic;1076581 wrote:Nice seeing that no-name-in-the-grand-scheme-of-things guy from Ohio (Blackburn, who was who was signed only a few weeks ago, right?) get a big red zone pick to really halt any momentum the Pats might have been getting offensively. One of those little things that pays off for a team...the exact opposite of, say, cutting a guy so Ocho can be on the active roster.
Yeah pretty cool. I played against Blackburn in HS and its pretty neat seeing him have a big game in the SB
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Feb 5, 2012 10:31pm
In my opinion, the trio of Nicks, Cruz, and Manningham is one of the best in NFL history.
So I disagree the Pats' WRs are better.
So I disagree the Pats' WRs are better.