Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Dec 21, 2012 10:59am
Mary Kay Cabull ‏@MaryKayCabull #browns Shurmur thinks he can call a balanced game for once in his fucking life.
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Dec 21, 2012 12:33pm
We'll get to see Smelly this weekend it looks like. Cameron is out.
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buckeyes_woowee
Posts: 512
Dec 21, 2012 1:13pm
How would you guys feel about Marc Trestman as a head coaching canidate?
Pick6
Posts: 14,946
Dec 21, 2012 1:17pm
I feel like the Browns could do better.buckeyes_woowee;1348679 wrote:How would you guys feel about Marc Trestman as a head coaching canidate?
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buckeyes_woowee
Posts: 512
Dec 21, 2012 1:30pm
He may be the best QB coach in the world and has a solid history with the Browns.
Pick6
Posts: 14,946
Dec 21, 2012 1:33pm
Well he hasnt been in the league since 04. I see he has been a draft-training coach, and has worked with guys such as Weeden, Jason Campbell, Cutler, Brock Osweiler, Tebow, and Jimmy Clausen. Not a very impressive list, to me anyways.buckeyes_woowee;1348692 wrote:He may be the best QB coach in the world and has a solid history with the Browns.
Rotinaj
Posts: 7,699
Dec 21, 2012 1:39pm
Probably the worst group of QBs I've ever seen listed.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Dec 21, 2012 1:42pm
Rotinaj;1348705 wrote:Probably the worst group of QBs I've ever seen listed.
Detmer, couch, folder, frye, Anderson, Quinn, gradkowski, garcia, and McCoy is a worse list.
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buckeyes_woowee
Posts: 512
Dec 21, 2012 2:03pm
4 1st roundersPick6;1348698 wrote:Well he hasnt been in the league since 04. I see he has been a draft-training coach, and has worked with guys such as Weeden, Jason Campbell, Cutler, Brock Osweiler, Tebow, and Jimmy Clausen. Not a very impressive list, to me anyways.
2 2nd rounders
Looks like he did his job in preparing for the draft.
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buckeyes_woowee
Posts: 512
Dec 21, 2012 2:19pm
Trestman has also coached:
Kosar at Miami (National Title in 83) and 2 years with the Browns. (2 of his best years)
Jake Plummer (probably his best NFL Season)
Rich Gannan (NFL MVP that year)
17 NFL Season (15 made it to the playoffs)
Won 2 Grey Cups in 5 years (playoffs each season)
It isn't like his resume is garbage. Also has connections with Lombardi who will probably be making the coaching decisions.
Kosar at Miami (National Title in 83) and 2 years with the Browns. (2 of his best years)
Jake Plummer (probably his best NFL Season)
Rich Gannan (NFL MVP that year)
17 NFL Season (15 made it to the playoffs)
Won 2 Grey Cups in 5 years (playoffs each season)
It isn't like his resume is garbage. Also has connections with Lombardi who will probably be making the coaching decisions.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Dec 21, 2012 2:29pm
And how would that help as a head coach of the Browns?buckeyes_woowee;1348729 wrote:4 1st rounders
2 2nd rounders
Looks like he did his job in preparing for the draft.
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buckeyes_woowee
Posts: 512
Dec 21, 2012 2:34pm
I was just responding to the previous post. He helped them train for the Draft. I pointed out that he did his job as they were drafted early.
royal_k
Posts: 4,423
Dec 21, 2012 3:39pm
Trestman did a great job the time he was here before. I don't know how well he would transition into being a head coach tho.
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buckeyes_woowee
Posts: 512
Dec 21, 2012 3:48pm
I am not sure how well he would either. He has been coaching well in the CFL but obviously that is at a complete different level than the NFL. He was really close to getting the Colts gig but they went with Pagano.royal_k;1348804 wrote:Trestman did a great job the time he was here before. I don't know how well he would transition into being a head coach tho.
Ty Webb
Posts: 2,798
Dec 22, 2012 12:29pm
I wouldn't be shocked at all to see Josh McDaniel as the next Browns coach
iclfan2
Posts: 6,360
Dec 22, 2012 1:40pm
From the sources I have heard from, McDaniels has no real chance of being coach here, but the Lombardi to Cle is not as far fetched (but nothing for sure yet).
Pick6
Posts: 14,946
Dec 23, 2012 12:00pm
Andy Reid being out in Phili is all but made official.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Dec 23, 2012 12:58pm
Pick6;1349708 wrote:Andy Reid being out in Phili is all but made official.
If he actually wants to coach id take him in a heartbeat. Just as long as we get the Andy Reid of old who knows how to use pwn RBs.
IggyPride00
Posts: 6,482
Dec 24, 2012 11:19am
Moving forward, if Joe Banner or Haslam have any designs on any 3 or 5 year rebuilding plans like the previous regime they need to scrap them now.
Cleveland fans want to see some urgency, and this town is going to scream bloody murder if they try that slow no urgency approach we have been stuck with for years now.
Indy and Washington have both went from being shitty to the playoffs within a year. The Bengals it took 2 years. Seattle 2 years.
Is anyone else tired of seeing all these other cities be able to turn around bad situations so quickly? Why is Cleveland the only city in which it always has to take some long drawn out plan that never ends up working anyway?
Cleveland fans want to see some urgency, and this town is going to scream bloody murder if they try that slow no urgency approach we have been stuck with for years now.
Indy and Washington have both went from being shitty to the playoffs within a year. The Bengals it took 2 years. Seattle 2 years.
Is anyone else tired of seeing all these other cities be able to turn around bad situations so quickly? Why is Cleveland the only city in which it always has to take some long drawn out plan that never ends up working anyway?
royal_k
Posts: 4,423
Dec 24, 2012 11:38am
It all depends on what kind of philosophy the new HC wants to implement. If they scrap the WC offense and go to more of a spread (shot gun) it could take a little longer. But IMO that kind of offense is what this team would excel in.
IggyPride00
Posts: 6,482
Dec 24, 2012 11:47am
All that plays a role. I was just putting out there as a general feeling going foward that the honeymoon period in many ways is already over.royal_k;1350289 wrote:It all depends on what kind of philosophy the new HC wants to implement. If they scrap the WC offense and go to more of a spread (shot gun) it could take a little longer. But IMO that kind of offense is what this team would excel in.
It is not Haslam and Banners fault that we have had 13 years of incompetence, but they can't be tone deaf about it like Holmgren was that people just aren't going to give them years and years to show massive progress.
They have to understand that the fan base has no patience, and be aggressive accordingly.
The lack of urgency I thought was a huge killer of the Holmgren regime as it turned the fan base on them because we are tired of losing, and tired of seeing quick turnarounds everywhere else while being told to eat shit and be patient.
I just don't want to see the same mistake made again.
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Footwedge
Posts: 9,265
Dec 24, 2012 12:01pm
So you've lost a decade of your life following the Browns. So who cares if it takes another decade. After all, we dominate in baseball and basketball....you can't expect to be great in every sport you know.IggyPride00;1350278 wrote:Moving forward, if Joe Banner or Haslam have any designs on any 3 or 5 year rebuilding plans like the previous regime they need to scrap them now.
Cleveland fans want to see some urgency, and this town is going to scream bloody murder if they try that slow no urgency approach we have been stuck with for years now.
Indy and Washington have both went from being shitty to the playoffs within a year. The Bengals it took 2 years. Seattle 2 years.
Is anyone else tired of seeing all these other cities be able to turn around bad situations so quickly? Why is Cleveland the only city in which it always has to take some long drawn out plan that never ends up working anyway?
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Sonofanump
Dec 25, 2012 5:10pm
Draft spot? Currently 7th. Range is 4th to 13th?
jordo212000
Posts: 10,664
Dec 25, 2012 5:21pm
bases_loaded;1347351 wrote:I think McDaniels will have success in his next job. He made alot if mistakes in his first but part of it was having too much power. You're doing something right when the Hoodie wants you back immediately.
Eric Mangini? Romeo Crennel?
When are people going to realize that the majority of New England's success is due to Tom Brady and The Hoodie?
Mulva
Posts: 13,650
Dec 25, 2012 6:36pm
I saw the current order on espn. How is buffalo ahead of us when they beat us head to head?Sonofanump;1350648 wrote:Draft spot? Currently 7th. Range is 4th to 13th?
Also, for all the talk about the tough schedule, browns played 4 teams that would currently be drafting top 6.