2012 Cleveland Browns thread: AKA Pat Shurmur Memorial thread

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Nov 27, 2012 9:33pm
Have you guys voted for the pro bowl yet? I voted a couple times for Phil and JT. Phil deserves to be a pro bowler once in his career. Do your job guys!
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Nov 28, 2012 1:23am
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Nov 28, 2012 7:57am
I think Jay is a better coach than John.
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Nov 28, 2012 8:00am
Sonofanump;1331046 wrote:I think Jay is a better coach than John.
I'm not really infatuated with John Gruden either. I don't think it will be a "name" coach.

And that's not happening (Gruden to TENN/gets a piece of the Browns). Why would Haslam offer Gruden a piece and not Banner, potentially pissing him off?
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Nov 28, 2012 8:28am
BR1986FB;1331047 wrote:I'm not really infatuated with John Gruden either. I don't think it will be a "name" coach.

And that's not happening (Gruden to TENN/gets a piece of the Browns). Why would Haslam offer Gruden a piece and not Banner, potentially pissing him off?
I agree. I think we probably hire whoever the OC of the Cardinals is.
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Nov 28, 2012 1:46pm
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Nov 28, 2012 3:31pm
This question I propose most likely will be a shit storm, but hey this thread has survived 518 pages, I think we can handle another potential shit storm!

Anyway, I am looking at Mel Kiper's big board. I just skimmed it mostly, but I noticed it was heavy on defense. There might have been 6 offensive players listed. What stood out to me (not surprising though) was Geno and Barklay rated at the bottom of the list.

If the Browns were to trade down, and get their 2nd pick back, would you draft Barklay or Geno if they dropped to the 2nd round?
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Nov 28, 2012 3:43pm
like_that;1331498 wrote:This question I propose most likely will be a shit storm, but hey this thread has survived 518 pages, I think we can handle another potential shit storm!

Anyway, I am looking at Mel Kiper's big board. I just skimmed it mostly, but I noticed it was heavy on defense. There might have been 6 offensive players listed. What stood out to me (not surprising though) was Geno and Barklay rated at the bottom of the list.

If the Browns were to trade down, and get their 2nd pick back, would you draft Barklay or Geno if they dropped to the 2nd round?
NO....defense, defense, and more defense

And a guard
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Nov 28, 2012 4:03pm
like_that;1331498 wrote:
If the Browns were to trade down, and get their 2nd pick back, would you draft Barklay or Geno if they dropped to the 2nd round?
No, but only because I think there can be a guy in round 3 or 4 with developmental value equal to one of those two. I know I hate Weeden, but for the sake of continuity I don't want to draft someone to challenge him right away (unless of course they prove themselves over the summer/training camp).

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/prospectrankings/2013/QB

Looking at that, I like Bray if he drops. I'm also thoroughly impressed with Dysert, and we know the pedigree of MAC QB's in the NFL. Looking towards rounds 5 or 6 I also like Sean Renfree out of Duke.
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Nov 28, 2012 5:36pm
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Nov 28, 2012 10:54pm
like_that;1331498 wrote: What stood out to me (not surprising though) was Geno and Barklay rated at the bottom of the list.

If the Browns were to trade down, and get their 2nd pick back, would you draft Barklay or Geno if they dropped to the 2nd round?
I wonder with all the hype that those two have, why would they slip to the second round if they have the skills to play in the NFL. Not sure about this up coming NFL class.
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Nov 28, 2012 11:44pm
like_that;1331498 wrote:If the Browns were to trade down, and get their 2nd pick back, would you draft Barklay or Geno if they dropped to the 2nd round?
Depends who we take with the first pick and who else is available. I 100% want them to trade down though.
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Nov 29, 2012 8:50am
BR and myself arguing over Weeden:

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Nov 29, 2012 9:03am
SportsAndLady;1332461 wrote:BR and myself arguing over Weeden:


Reps :laugh:
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Nov 29, 2012 1:46pm
SportsAndLady;1332461 wrote:BR and myself arguing over Weeden:

Reps also
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Nov 29, 2012 1:48pm
McClain and Curry released from the Raiders. I'd like the Browns to take a flyer on McClain.

I loved Curry coming out, man was I wrong on him.
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Nov 29, 2012 2:11pm
id definitely take a flier on McClian. Loved the dude coming out of college.
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Nov 29, 2012 2:24pm
McClain is a stiff. Raiders fans have been bitching about his play the last few seasons. Wasn't worth where he was picked...plus he's a headcase.
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Nov 29, 2012 6:37pm
BR1986FB;1332818 wrote:McClain is a stiff. Raiders fans have been bitching about his play the last few seasons. Wasn't worth where he was picked...plus he's a headcase.
If We can get Him cheap I say give it a shot
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BR1986FB
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Nov 29, 2012 7:23pm
Enforcer;1332999 wrote:If We can get Him cheap I say give it a shot
You gonna move DQ Jackson, who is a better MLB, out of position to make room for him? I'd do that for a stud like the Te'o kid from Notre Dame but not for McClain.
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Nov 29, 2012 9:58pm
Haslam seems to be optimistic. Also there is a short trailer for that Browns show that will be premiering next tuesday.

http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2012/11/cleveland_browns_owner_jimmy_h_5.html#incart_river
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Nov 30, 2012 8:00am
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Nov 30, 2012 8:30am
BR1986FB;1333360 wrote:Haslam feels Browns are close to being a playoff contender...

http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2012/11/cleveland_browns_owner_jimmy_h_5.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
Look at my post right above yours lol. I have to call you out on this one BR, nice fail :D.