Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Nov 13, 2012 4:58pm
I dont think they're remotely close. Don't forget GOATson dropped a sure fire TD pass against Chargers. Now that stat would be meaningless. It's not a weeden problem as much as it's idiot Patty Boy and shitty hands.wes_mantooth;1319502 wrote:sigh.
I am holding off judgement, but I worry that he is D.A. 2.0
wes_mantooth
Posts: 17,977
Nov 13, 2012 5:16pm
Yeah, I am just worried that he has a cannon but has too many brain farts. Hopefully it is just a rookie being a rookie. And GOATson would never drop a td pass....you must be mistaken.Commander of Awesome;1319532 wrote:I dont think they're remotely close. Don't forget GOATson dropped a sure fire TD pass against Chargers. Now that stat would be meaningless. It's not a weeden problem as much as it's idiot Patty Boy and shitty hands.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Nov 13, 2012 5:42pm
Biggest difference, to me, is that DA couldn't throw a short pass or a checkdown to save his life, Weeden can.wes_mantooth;1319502 wrote:sigh.
I am holding off judgement, but I worry that he is D.A. 2.0
Pick6
Posts: 14,946
Nov 13, 2012 5:50pm
I agree, but I dont think that was the problem people have with Derek Anderson. Though it probably contributed to it by forcing passes down field more than normal.BR1986FB;1319570 wrote:Biggest difference, to me, is that DA couldn't throw a short pass or a checkdown to save his life, Weeden can.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Nov 13, 2012 6:03pm
DA became easy to defend. It starting in the second half of the second meeting (I believe) with the Steelers in 2007. Browns built a 21-9 lead at the half and Anderson was playing fairly well (3 TD passes in the first half). The Steelers adjusted in the 2nd half. They gave him all of the underneath stuff, which he couldn't hit, and blanketed the intermediate/deep routes. He was screwed. Pittsburgh pretty much showed the rest of the league the game plan on how to defend Anderson, for opponents, for the rest of the year.Pick6;1319574 wrote:I agree, but I dont think that was the problem people have with Derek Anderson. Though it probably contributed to it by forcing passes down field more than normal.
shook_17
Posts: 3,023
Nov 13, 2012 7:53pm
haha. mine as well. he is killing me.wes_mantooth;1319521 wrote:Yeah...i ****ing know! Eli is on my fantasy team...lol
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Nov 14, 2012 2:28pm
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Nov 14, 2012 2:34pm
Jesus....Shurmur, of all people, should take his own advice....
http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2012/11/cleveland_browns_coach_pat_shu_48.html#incart_river
http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2012/11/cleveland_browns_coach_pat_shu_48.html#incart_river
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Nov 15, 2012 9:23am
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Sonofanump
Nov 15, 2012 9:53am
BR1986FB;1320178 wrote:Jesus....Shurmur, of all people, should take his own advice....
http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2012/11/cleveland_browns_coach_pat_shu_48.html#incart_river
"Don't throw interceptions. Done, end of story," said Shurmur. "I want to be right to the point."
I don't get this. On a 2-7 team, I'd rather have a rookie try to have success rather than play not to lose.
mucalum49
Posts: 1,639
Nov 15, 2012 10:06am
Hopefully Weeden or someone who has a future in the organization remembers this and when Pat is gone they say "I want to go for it on 4th & 1 when we're inside the opponents 40. Done, end of story. I want to be right to the point."Sonofanump;1320734 wrote:
"Don't throw interceptions. Done, end of story," said Shurmur. "I want to be right to the point."
I don't get this. On a 2-7 team, I'd rather have a rookie try to have success rather than play not to lose.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Nov 15, 2012 10:09am
He's fucking with Weeden's head. Hell...he's fucking with the whole teams head. Shurmur is in "CYA mode", right now, throwing everyone under the bus when he talks to the media in hopes of saving his own skin. The sooner he's out of here, the better.Sonofanump;1320734 wrote:
"Don't throw interceptions. Done, end of story," said Shurmur. "I want to be right to the point."
I don't get this. On a 2-7 team, I'd rather have a rookie try to have success rather than play not to lose.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Nov 15, 2012 10:11am
Banner not allergic to free agency but non-committal on re-signing Dawson, Cribbs....
http://espncleveland.com/common/more.php?m=49&action=blog&post_id=8061
http://espncleveland.com/common/more.php?m=49&action=blog&post_id=8061
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Nov 15, 2012 2:13pm
http://cle.scout.com/2/1240283.html
Nate Ulrich ‏ @ NateUlrichABJ # Browns WR Josh Gordon said he was fined $20K for blindside block vs. # Ravens. Said he's in process of appealing fine.
Nate Ulrich ‏ @ NateUlrichABJ # Browns WR Josh Gordon said he was fined $20K for blindside block vs. # Ravens. Said he's in process of appealing fine.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Nov 15, 2012 3:40pm
derek bomar
Posts: 3,722
Nov 15, 2012 3:44pm
when did blindside hits become illegal? I thought crack-back plays were taught and ran often...BR1986FB;1320960 wrote:http://cle.scout.com/2/1240283.html
Nate Ulrich ‏ @ NateUlrichABJ # Browns WR Josh Gordon said he was fined $20K for blindside block vs. # Ravens. Said he's in process of appealing fine.
Midstate01
Posts: 14,766
Nov 15, 2012 4:01pm
BR1986FB;1318447 wrote:So what are the thoughts on grey pants? Giants wear grey pants and grey isn't part of their team colors. Here's a look.....
Hell yes
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Nov 15, 2012 4:09pm
Grey pants pwn.
royal_k
Posts: 4,423
Nov 15, 2012 4:34pm
Terrible call...he should appeal it. That was a very good block and nothing illegal about it.BR1986FB;1320960 wrote:http://cle.scout.com/2/1240283.html
Nate Ulrich ‏ @ NateUlrichABJ # Browns WR Josh Gordon said he was fined $20K for blindside block vs. # Ravens. Said he's in process of appealing fine.
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Sonofanump
Nov 15, 2012 5:47pm
Video?BR1986FB;1320960 wrote:http://cle.scout.com/2/1240283.html
Nate Ulrich ‏ @ NateUlrichABJ # Browns WR Josh Gordon said he was fined $20K for blindside block vs. # Ravens. Said he's in process of appealing fine.
dazedconfused
Posts: 2,662
Nov 15, 2012 6:58pm
love the orange jersey/grey pants combo
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
Nov 15, 2012 7:46pm
thisdazedconfused;1321120 wrote:love the orange jersey/grey pants combo
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Nov 15, 2012 7:57pm
Oh jesusBR1986FB;1320750 wrote:He's fucking with Weeden's head.
Go4alOngbOmB
Posts: 673
Nov 16, 2012 2:54am
I'm on the the sooner rather than later train when it comes to Patty Boy. I am honestly surprised that it didn't come down during the bye week. The words that come out of his moth during press conferences literally make me gag in my own throat. He sounds like a division 3 coach talking to the media about his 1st round playoff loss. Or miracle win and what he is going to do against Stubenville or Dover the next week. It boggles my mind why we hired this arrogant SOB in the 1st place, and how the HELL management keeps him around right now. Apparently the guy gives a GREAT "Old Fashioned" , no wonder Holmgrams mustache was always curled up.....SportsAndLady;1321159 wrote:Oh jesus
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Nov 16, 2012 5:20am
No "oh jesus" about it. He's publicly throwing his rookie QB, along with other players, under the bus. Even Colt McCoy didn't have to deal with that shit from Shurmur. The faster Shurmur is gone, the better.SportsAndLady;1321159 wrote:Oh jesus
Unless you really know what's going on, no need to comment. Shurmur was fucking with Weeden's head prior to this game and the kid was afraid to take shots down the field because Patty Boy had Ed Reed made out to be the "boogeyman" in Weeden's eyes before he took a snap.