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                                Oct 25, 2012 7:35pm
                            
                        Man, I don't know about that anymore. NFC North and, believe it or not, NFC West are pretty damn tough. I'd almost give my big toe to have any one of the defenses from the West (Rams/Hawks/Cards/Niners).Pick6;1304437 wrote:that will be tough to do in the toughest division in football.
                                        
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                                Oct 25, 2012 7:37pm
                            
                        I think that Griffin will be able to morph into a pocket passer over time.like_that;1304443 wrote:Pretty bold prediction. As I have said before, I have seen black dual threat QBs turn heads their rookie season, maybe even the next, but the start to slow down after. The league is just too smart. Pocket QBs rule the elite status.
 
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                                Oct 25, 2012 7:40pm
                            
                        The power has shifted to the NFC in general. All 6 spots are going to be tough as hell to get into.BR1986FB;1304444 wrote:Man, I don't know about that anymore. NFC North and, believe it or not, NFC West are pretty damn tough. I'd almost give my big toe to have any one of the defenses from the West (Rams/Hawks/Cards/Niners).
I have heard this all the time. I will believe it when I see it.BR1986FB;1304446 wrote:I think that Griffin will be able to morph into a pocket passer over time.
                                        
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                                Oct 25, 2012 7:45pm
                            
                        I think it was you who said the current AFC North is turning into the old NFC West (mediocre).like_that;1304449 wrote:The power has shifted to the NFC in general. All 6 spots are going to be tough as hell to get into.
 
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                                Oct 25, 2012 8:00pm
                            
                        Yup. I truly believe that is where the division will be headed for a bit.BR1986FB;1304453 wrote:I think it was you who said the current AFC North is turning into the old NFC West (mediocre).
 
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                                Oct 25, 2012 8:30pm
                            
                        The eagles and cowboys are shit and will only get worse.Pick6;1304437 wrote:that will be tough to do in the toughest division in football.
 
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                                Oct 25, 2012 8:54pm
                            
                        gives us a chance to win the division then lol or just be really really shitty.like_that;1304468 wrote:Yup. I truly believe that is where the division will be headed for a bit.
 
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                                Oct 25, 2012 8:57pm
                            
                        
                                browns to air in reality tv show starting next week?
http://rawsports.yardbarker.com/blog/rawsports/article/report_cleveland_browns_to_star_in_hard_knocks_type_reality_series/12057535
                        http://rawsports.yardbarker.com/blog/rawsports/article/report_cleveland_browns_to_star_in_hard_knocks_type_reality_series/12057535
 
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                                Oct 25, 2012 9:05pm
                            
                        ok.Rotinaj;1304492 wrote:The eagles and cowboys are shit and will only get worse.
 
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                                Oct 25, 2012 9:15pm
                            
                        that's actually pretty coolshook_17;1304510 wrote:browns to air in reality tv show starting next week?
http://rawsports.yardbarker.com/blog/rawsports/article/report_cleveland_browns_to_star_in_hard_knocks_type_reality_series/12057535
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                                Oct 25, 2012 9:19pm
                            
                        
Haslam looks like he is grabbing Weeden's junk in that picture.
 
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                                Oct 25, 2012 9:21pm
                            
                        
                                I have seen more pics of Haslam involved with the Browns than I have seen with Lerner during his whole tenure.
                            
                         
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                                Oct 25, 2012 9:31pm
                            
                        yup. lerner just didnt care. he cared more about his soccer team. yeah he was willing to open up his wallet but that only goes so far. a lot of respect for the lerner family for what they did for cleveland. but with that being said im glad haslam bought the team and is ready to be hands on.like_that;1304523 wrote:I have seen more pics of Haslam involved with the Browns than I have seen with Lerner during his whole tenure.
 
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                                Oct 25, 2012 10:53pm
                            
                        Give me "The Chin!"shook_17;1304530 wrote:yup. lerner just didnt care. he cared more about his soccer team. yeah he was willing to open up his wallet but that only goes so far. a lot of respect for the lerner family for what they did for cleveland. but with that being said im glad haslam bought the team and is ready to be hands on.
 
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                                Oct 25, 2012 10:56pm
                            
                        Indeed.Pick6;1304513 wrote:ok.
 
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                                Oct 25, 2012 11:05pm
                            
                        RogerRotinaj;1304571 wrote:Indeed.
                                        
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                                Oct 26, 2012 4:59am
                            
                        You also saw more emotion from one shot in the loge of Haslam than you ever heard of Lerner having in his whole tenure.like_that;1304523 wrote:I have seen more pics of Haslam involved with the Browns than I have seen with Lerner during his whole tenure.
 
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                                Oct 26, 2012 7:39am
                            
                        BR1986FB;1304649 wrote:You also saw more emotion from one shot in the loge of Haslam than you ever heard of Lerner having in his whole tenure.
He was so pissed when Gordon dropped that ball and when shurmer didn't go for it on 4th down. I love it
                                        
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                                Oct 26, 2012 9:20am
                            
                        
                                        
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                                Oct 26, 2012 9:28am
                            
                        
                                Analysis: Time for the Browns to look forward to 2013....
http://www.cantonrep.com/browns/x470411211/Analysis-Time-for-Browns-too-look-toward-2013?zc_p=0
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                                Oct 26, 2012 9:43am
                            
                        
                                LOL that Dilfer thinks McCoy can be a winning QB in the NFL.
                            
                         
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                                Oct 26, 2012 9:47am
                            
                        
                                McCoy is a career backup QB, and I hope we can hang on to him because he is a very good BACKUP QB.
                            
                        
                                        
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                                Oct 26, 2012 9:53am
                            
                        Unless the new regime can smooth things over, I'd bet he moves on when his rookie contract expires. Haslam may want to keep him around though. If I was McCoy, I'd get out of Cleveland.OQB;1304731 wrote:McCoy is a career backup QB, and I hope we can hang on to him because he is a very good BACKUP QB.
                                        
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                                Oct 26, 2012 12:42pm
                            
                        
                                After re-reading that "time for the Browns to look forward to 2013" article, if that's the case, Haslam should just fire Shurmur now. You know that with Shurmur fighting for his job he's going to keep guys like Brown, Watson and, when he returns, Alex Smith in. If they want to get a look at some of these younger guys, it likely won't be with Shurmur coaching.
                            
                         
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                                Oct 26, 2012 12:48pm
                            
                        
                                I wish Shurmur would get fired or die so that I could watch the Browns again.