SportsAndLady;1056953 wrote:Desaun Jackson isn't a real player, MORAN

Now you have hurt my feelings. Ouch.

SportsAndLady;1056959 wrote:That's true, I didn't think about that.

But my guess is the lolphins or 'skins will throw them a more enticing offer.

Depends on how bad they want Blackmon or Kalil, I guess but you could be right.

Browns hire Nolan Cromwell...

http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2012/01/cleveland_browns_adding_nolan.html

Cut & pasted from the OBR. I remember Cromwell as a player. Very good...

"Clearly, if in the war of the airways the receivers have all the big guns, Cromwell is an equalizer—an MX missile—for the defense. He is such a remarkable athlete that opposing coaches hate to describe him for fear of upsetting their own premier athletes. "Maybe we can agree on this," says Atlanta's Leeman Bennett of the Atlanta Falcons. "I don't know of a better athlete than Nolan. You can't draw up a game plan against the Rams without thinking of him." "He's the kind of free safety who takes away your basic patterns," says San Francisco's Bill Walsh. "A perennial Pro Bowl player for the 1980s," says Gil Brandt, the Cowboys' director of player personnel.

The Rams' staff is less restrained. "He's great," says Coach Ray Malavasi. "He's in a class by himself, the best free safety ever," says Defensive Coordinator Bud Carson.
"Nolan is one of the most incredible football players I've ever seen," says Ram Vice-President and General Manager Don Klosterman, who has seen a few. "When I try to compare him to somebody, the only person who comes to mind is Bobby Bell, the former linebacker for Kansas City. Bell could play corner, safety, throw the ball 85 yards, center the ball either short or long, kick off, play wide receiver, quarterback. Nolan is like that, a guy who can do anything. And he can do it with such grace. I'm afraid people will think I'm Nolan's P.R. man, but I honestly can't think of anything negative to say about him."
Last season, which was only Cromwell's fourth in the NFL, his second as a starter, one of the wire services agreed with Klosterman and named Cromwell the NFC Defensive Player of the Year. For the season Cromwell had eight interceptions, the most in the conference, and 101 tackles, more than any other Ram defensive back."

And some info on his coaching skills...


"Cromwell, 55, had served on Mike Sherman's staff at A&M for the last two seasons. He helped direct the growth of the A&M offense that ranked among the top 30 teams nationally in rushing, passing, scoring and total offense. Only Boise State was similarly ranked among those four statistical categories among FBS teams in 2009.
But Cromwell's real influence in the offense was lessened because Sherman had most of the play-calling responsibilities.

"I appreciate the passion, energy and work ethic Nolan Cromwell brought to us over these last two years," Sherman said. "You can also add patience, since it is not easy being an offensive coordinator under an offensive head coach."

Cromwell replaces Charlie Baggett, who left St. Louis after one season to be assistant head coach and wide receivers coach at Tennessee.

Cromwell also becomes the second A&M coordinator to resign since the end of the Aggies' 6-7 2009 season. Veteran defensive coordinator Joe Kines resigned after the Aggies' loss to Georgia in the Independence Bowl and has been replaced by former Air Force Academy defensive coordinator Tim DeRuyter.

Cromwell has worked 17 seasons as an NFL assistant before joining Sherman's staff at A&M. He played with the Rams in Los Angeles and started his coaching career as a special teams assistant in 1991. He later was special teams coordinator for Green Bay from 1992-97, a wide receivers coach with the Packers in 1998 and spent nine seasons as the wide receivers coach with Seattle before coming to A&M.

"I am excited to be back with the Rams' family," Cromwell said. "I appreciate [St. Louis] Coach [Steve] Spagnuolo for giving me this opportunity and I look forward to working with the receivers on our roster and the coaching staff.This is truly a unique experience getting this opportunity with the organization I care for very deeply."

Cromwell was a second-round draft pick of the Los Angeles Rams in 1977 after his college career in Kansas, where he was a defensive back who switched to quarterback. He played his entire 11-year NFL career with the Rams, earning Pro Bowl honors four times and finishing as the team's career leader in interception return yardage with 671 yards on 37 interceptions."

The fact he worked for Sherman is pretty telling where the Browns will go with their OC hiring.

like_that;1057038 wrote:The fact he worked for Sherman is pretty telling where the Browns will go with their OC hiring.

And if that's the case it should put Tannehill in play as a potential QB.

BR1986FB;1057047 wrote:And if that's the case it should put Tannehill in play as a potential QB.

Ballsacks.

Cromwell could also be their fallback option at OC if they don't land Sherman or Childress. I think the holdup on this OC selection is that both top candidates (Sherman/Childress) are in play for head coaching gigs and the Browns are waiting to see if either will be available.

BR1986FB;1057059 wrote:Cromwell could also be their fallback option at OC if they don't land Sherman or Childress. I think the holdup on this OC selection is that both top candidates (Sherman/Childress) are in play for head coaching gigs and the Browns are waiting to see if either will be available.

Thanks terry pluto 48 hours ago

Sherman also has the same agent as H & H and Shermur

hoping manning lands in miami and flynn lands in miami...wash out all of st. louis' potential trade partners

18th January, 2012 - 12:12 pmJeff Risdon/RealGM -

I always like to do a mock before the Senior Bowl, the crown jewel of the workout/all-star circuit, and then do one the day after I leave Mobile. Every coach, scout, and agent is there and it’s the best time--better than the Combine--to get legitimate opinions on prospects, including many that aren’t in the game.

It’s still way too early for any hope of finality or accuracy; team draft boards are still in the formative stages, and many teams are still working on filling out their coaching staffs. This is an early guess as to what might play out.

As always, this represents what I think the given teams would do in the given situations. It does not necessarily reflect what I would do in the same situation.

Round 1

1. Indianapolis Colts: Andre Luck, QB, Stanford. No change necessary, you can carve this in marble and tattoo it on your face.

2. St. Louis Rams: Robert Griffin III, QB, Baylor. RG3 will be the #2 pick, but it won’t be the Rams taking him. They will trade back and take Blackmon, Claiborne, or perhaps Michael Floyd, depending on how far back they drop.

3. Minnesota Vikings: Matt Kalil, T, USC. This pick is also for sale, though Rick Speilman would be wise to keep it and upgrade the OL.

4. Cleveland Browns: Justin Blackmon, WR, Oklahoma State. If they stay put this pick seems likely. The Browns are one of the more active traders on draft day and this year figures to be no exception.

5. Tampa Bay Buccaneers: Morris Claiborne, CB, LSU. Tampa Bay might lose both starting corners and plays in a division with Brees, Newton, and Ryan. You do the math…

6. Washington Ethnic Slurs: Dre Kirkpatrick, CB, Alabama. It would surprise nobody if the Ethnic Slurs moved up to get RG3, but failing that they could look to shore up the back end of the defense. The recent marijuana charge is no big deal.

7. Jacksonville Jaguars: Michael Floyd, WR, Notre Dame. Might be a reach, but he will rise during workout season and the Jaguars never shy away from doing their own thing. They have to get Gabbert more weapons.

8. Carolina Panthers: Michael Brockers, DT, LSU. Continuing the youth movement up front with the most dynamic line player in this draft.

9. Miami Dolphins: Luke Kuechly, LB, Boston College. Outstanding tackler that shores up the middle of the field defense. I’ve heard they are scouting the WR class extensively though.

10. Buffalo Bills: Quinton Coples, DE, North Carolina. Big-time boom/bust pass rusher for a team that desperately needs one.

11. Kansas City Chiefs: Riley Reiff, T, Iowa
12. Seattle Seahawks: Nick Perry, DE, USC
13. Arizona Cardinals: Jonathan Martin, T, Stanford
14. Dallas Cowboys: Janoris Jenkins, CB, North Alabama
15. Philadelphia Eagles: Courtney Upshaw, LB, Alabama
16. New York Jets: Alshon Jeffery, WR, South Carolina
17. Cincinnati Bengals (from OAK): Trent Richardson, RB, Alabama
18. San Diego Chargers: Melvin Ingram, DE/OLB, South Carolina
19. Chicago Bears: Dont’a Hightower, LB, Alabama
20. Tennessee Titans: Devon Still, DT, Penn State
21. Cincinnati Bengals: Mark Barron, S, Alabama
22. Cleveland Browns (from ATL): David Decastro, G, Stanford
23. Detroit Lions: Zach Brown, LB, North Carolina
24. Pittsburgh Steelers: Zebrie Sanders, T, Florida State
25. Denver Broncos: Alfonzo Dennard, CB, Nebraska
26. Houston Texans: Kendall Wright, WR, Baylor
27. New England Patriots (from NO): Jerel Worthy, DT, Michigan State
28. Green Bay Packers: Dontari Poe, NT, Memphis
29. New York Giants: Ronnell Lewis, LB, Oklahoma
30. Baltimore Ravens: Peter Konz, C, Wisconsin
31. San Francisco 49ers: Dwight Jones, WR, North Carolina
32. New England Patriots: Chase Minnifield, CB, Virginia

Round 2

33. Indianapolis Colts: Cordy Glenn, G, Georgia
34. St. Louis Rams: Lamar Miller, RB, Miami FL
35. Minnesota Vikings: Fletcher Cox, DT, Mississippi State
36. Cleveland Browns: Dwayne Allen, TE, Clemson
37. Tampa Bay Buccaneers: Kelechi Osemele, T/G, Iowa State
38. Washington Ethnic Slurs: Mohammed Sanu, WR, Rutgers
39. Jacksonville Jaguars: Colby Fleener, TE, Stanford
40. Carolina Panthers: Leonard Johnson, CB, Iowa State
41. Miami Dolphins: Ryan Tannehill, QB, Texas A&M
42. Buffalo Bills: Casey Hayward, CB, Vanderbilt
43. Kansas City Chiefs: Michael Brewster, C, Ohio State
44. Seattle Seahawks: Brandon Weeden, QB, Oklahoma State
45. Philadelphia Eagles (from ARI): Mike Adams, T, Ohio State
46. Dallas Cowboys: Bruce Irvin, DE/OLB, West Virginia
47. Philadelphia Eagles: Vontaze Burfict, LB, Arizona State
48. New York Jets: Chris Polk, RB, Washington
49. New England Patriots (from OAK): Vinny Curry, DE, Marshall
50. San Diego Chargers: Brian Quick, WR, Appalachain State
51. Chicago Bears: Robert Turbin, RB, Utah State
52. Tennessee Titans: Keenan Robinson, LB, Texas
53. Cincinnati Bengals: Markelle Martin, S, Oklahoma State
54. Atlanta Falcons: Whitney Mercilus, DE, Illinois
55. Detroit Lions: Ryan Miller, G/T, Colorado
56. Pittsburgh Steelers: Doug Martin, RB, Boise State
57. Denver Broncos: Shawn Prater, CB, Iowa
58. Houston Texans: Lucas Nix, G, Pittsburgh
59. New Orleans Saints: AJ Jenkins, WR, Illinois
60. Green Bay Packers: Jared Crick, DE, Nebraska
61. New York Giants: James Michael Johnson, LB, Nevada
62. Baltimore Ravens: Sean Spence, LB, Miami FL
63. San Francisco 49ers: Billy Winn, DE, Boise State
64. New England Patriots: Brandon Thompson, DT, Clemson

Round 3

65. Indianapolis Colts: Bernard Pierce, RB, Temple
66. St. Louis Rams: Jamell Fleming, CB, Oklahoma
67. Minnesota Vikings: Amini Silatolu, G, Midwestern State
68. Cleveland Browns: Terence Ganaway, RB Baylor
69. Tampa Bay Buccaneers: Travis Lewis LB, Oklahoma
70. Washington Ethnic Slurs: Levy Adcock, T, Oklahoma State
71. Jacksonville Jaguars: David Molk, C, Michigan
72. Chicago Bears (from CAR): Jordan White, WR, Western Michigan
73. Miami Dolphins: Brandon Taylor, S, LSU
74. Buffalo Bills: Orson Charles, TE, Georgia
75. Kansas City Chiefs: Ryan Broyles, WR, Oklahoma
76. Seattle Seahawks: Joe Adams, WR/RS, Arkansas
77. Arizona Cardinals: Devier Posey, WR, Ohio State
78. Dallas Cowboys: George Iloka, S, Boise State
79. Philadelphia Eagles: Ladarius Green, TE, Louisiana Lafayette
80. New York Jets: Matt McCants, T, UAB
81. Oakland Raiders: Used to take Terrelle Pryor
82. San Diego Chargers: Ben Jones, C, Georgia
83. Chicago Bears: Brandon Boykin, CB, Georgia
84. Tennessee Titans: Jermaine Kearse, WR, Washington
85. Cincinnati Bengals: Eric Page, WR, Toledo
86. Atlanta Falcons: David Wilson, RB, Virginia Tech
87. Detroit Lions: Trenton Robinson, S, Michigan State
88. Pittsburgh Steelers: Olivier Vernon, DE, Miami FL
89. Denver Broncos: Trevor Guyton, DE, California
90. Houston Texans: Harrison Smith, S, Notre Dame
91. New Orleans Saints: Dequan Menzie, CB, Alabama
92. Green Bay Packers: Audie Cole, LB, North Carolina State
93. New York Giants: Brock Osweiler, QB, Arizona State
94. Baltimore Ravens: Sergio Kelemente, G, Washington
95. San Francisco 49ers: Stephon Gilmore, DB, South Carolina
96. New England Patriots: Marvin McNutt, WR, Iowa

Read more: http://football.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/25517/20120118/pre_senior_bowl_mock_draft/#ixzz1jpholTOb

dazedconfused;1057224 wrote:hoping manning lands in miami and flynn lands in miami...wash out all of st. louis' potential trade partners

Still have Seattle.

If DeCastro falls to us at #22 and we take him I'd be happy. Would rather pick someone else at #4.

Commander of Awesome;1057247 wrote:If DeCastro falls to us at #22 and we take him I'd be happy. Would rather pick someone else at #4.

I'd be stunned if Mercilus fell to the Falcons at #54.

Another guy I really like is Crick from Nebraska. Got to see him play 3 times this season and he always stood out to me.

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#Browns officially confirmed hiring of senior offensive assistant Nolan Cromwell, replaces Keith Gilbertson who retired. Still OC search.

Not a fan of that mock after the first round that you posted CoA. A TE in the 2nd? GTFO.

I agree, a TE in the second can GTFO. I think everyone is getting a little too excited over the new popular TE trend in the NFL like they did with the Wildcat.

Blackmon and DeCastro would be amazing...TE in the 2nd round, not a fan of it really, but TE is becoming a very dangerous position in an offense.

SportsAndLady;1057611 wrote:Blackmon and DeCastro would be amazing...TE in the 2nd round, not a fan of it really, but TE is becoming a very dangerous position in an offense.

We have plenty of TEs, we don't need to waste a pick on another. Let's be honest, they have always been dangerous weapons, but the most dangerous TEs this year, had Brees and Brady throwing to them.

Hold onto your asses....


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Apparently kiper has them with rg3 and his receiver Wright going to the browns with their first round picks.

Now excuse me while I jump off the I-480 bridge.....

wes_mantooth;1057629 wrote:Apparently kiper has them with rg3 and his receiver Wright going to the browns with their first round picks.

Now excuse me while I jump off the I-480 bridge.....

Really? I would def take that first round.

like_that;1057618 wrote:We have plenty of TEs, we don't need to waste a pick on another. Let's be honest, they have always been dangerous weapons, but the most dangerous TEs this year, had Brees and Brady throwing to them.

True..like I said, i'm not a huge fan of it, but it wouldn't be the absolute worst pick in the world.

like_that;1057632 wrote:Really? I would def take that first round.

You obviously do not listen to the show.