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Apr 28, 2012 10:14 PM
Mulva;1156407 wrote:Speaking of which... I gave the 2010 draft a B. Definitely too high. Re-grading, probably a D+. Haden was still a great pick, Ward is alright, and everything else was shit.

I pretty much nailed it on Haden, Ward, Hardesty/Tate, and Lauvao. I completely overrated the later part of the draft though, even though those rankings are relative to when they were taken.

http://www.ohiochatter.com/forum/showthread.php?11071-How-would-you-grade-the-Browns-draft

I think I'll post another one of those later for this year, just for funsies. It should be a good way to get some people's panties in a bunch.
Other than last year, the Browns have drafted poorly. Duh.
Apr 28, 2012 6:14pm
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Apr 28, 2012 10:15 PM
So Carlton Mitchell is the answer to our WR problems....fuck we are screwed forever
Apr 28, 2012 6:15pm
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Apr 28, 2012 10:15 PM
Mulva;1156408 wrote:Would you rank the Browns draft ahead of anyone else in the division?

I'm not going to go through and rank every draft 1-32, but if I did the Browns would probably fall in the bottom 10. They did better in the later rounds, but the early rounds are way more important and weighed much more heavily.
It's all relative to how these guys perform. Like I said, we didn't have a great draft. But getting Richardson, a QB, and quality RT make it at least a "good" draft.

I guess for some perspective, I think most teams' drafts are decent at worst, because it takes a lot to really f*ck up, and we didn't do that, at least I hope not
Apr 28, 2012 6:15pm
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Apr 28, 2012 10:18 PM
SportsAndLady;1156417 wrote:So Carlton Mitchell is the answer to our WR problems....**** we are screwed forever
Haha, I mean we still have to go through the UDFA process and UFA's still available. Dane Sanzenbacher and Doug Baldwin were pretty solid UDFAs.
Apr 28, 2012 6:18pm
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Apr 28, 2012 10:20 PM
SportsAndLady;1156417 wrote:So Carlton Mitchell is the answer to our WR problems....fuck we are screwed forever
Don't fucking hate on Carlton Mitchell! He follows me on Twitter lol
Apr 28, 2012 6:20pm
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Apr 28, 2012 10:21 PM
I completely agree with Matt Miller from NFL Draft Scout:
NFL overreacted to Arian Foster's hamstring and character. They're doing the same with Chris Polk's shoulder/hip--played two years w/o issue
Definitely a risk, but talent-wise I think he's the #2 running back in the draft.

Also, if anyone was wondering, Cam Johnson fell because of sickle cell and Chase Minnifield because of his knee concerns.

And I forgot Mike Brewster existed. I'm kind of surprised he hasn't been drafted too.
Apr 28, 2012 6:21pm
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Apr 28, 2012 10:22 PM
hoops23;1156411 wrote:Overview
Benjamin was a big-play threat at Miami for several years. Initially an electric return specialist, he eventually became an effective pass-catching option. He is undersized but fast enough to get past safeties, and has the route-running savvy to outwork corners, create separation and make plays. His size might limit his pro potential, but many receivers of his stature have succeeded in the NFL. Benjamin has third- to fourth-round value.

Analysis Strengths

Benjamin understands how to get open at the top of routes and can use his explosiveness to his advantage. As a returner, he is a "one cut and go" runner who can break for daylight. The key to his game as a receiver is his ability to get open, and he doesn't shy away from contact. He will be a true deep threat who runs crisp intermediate routes.
His punt return to the house vs. the Bucks was very Cribbsesque.
Apr 28, 2012 6:22pm
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Apr 28, 2012 10:29 PM
Man, with their draft and FA signings, Tampa Bay could be a scary team is their coach is at least semi-knowledgeable...
Apr 28, 2012 6:29pm
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Apr 28, 2012 10:33 PM
Dr. KnOiTaLL;1156428 wrote:Man, with their draft and FA signings, Tampa Bay could be a scary team is their coach is at least semi-knowledgeable...
Tampa and Buffalo look like the 2 most improved teams to me. Although I don't like Fitzpatrick.
Apr 28, 2012 6:33pm
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Apr 28, 2012 10:44 PM
Mulva;1156431 wrote:Tampa and Buffalo look like the 2 most improved teams to me. Although I don't like Fitzpatrick.
The Rams did pretty well also.
Apr 28, 2012 6:44pm
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Apr 28, 2012 10:51 PM
I'm ok with this draft other than weeden and Hughes. Weeden really ruined it for me though.
Apr 28, 2012 6:51pm
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Apr 28, 2012 10:51 PM
I hoping some combo of Jeff Fuller/Dwight Jones, Cliff Harris/Minnifield/Leonard Johnson, or Burfict with these last 2 picks.
Apr 28, 2012 6:51pm
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Apr 28, 2012 11:00 PM
Janzen Jackson FS? He was a beast when he was at tennessee.
Apr 28, 2012 7:00pm
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Apr 28, 2012 11:02 PM
lhslep134;1156404 wrote:It's gotta be nice being Bill Bellicheck and knowing that it's okay to draft character concern guys (just took Dennard).
Dennard definitely screwed up. But I don't think he's had any trouble prior to that event. Sounds like he got hammered at the bar, got into a fight outside with a heckler, and accidentally punched a cop in the cheek when the cop tried breaking the scuffle up. He's looking at a felony but will probably just pay a steep fine since he's never been in trouble before. If so, it was an absolute steal for NE in the 7th Rd. Even if he serves time or continues to screw up it's worth the gamble with a 7th rd. pick.
Apr 28, 2012 7:02pm
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Apr 28, 2012 11:05 PM
Trevin Wade
Apr 28, 2012 7:05pm
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Apr 28, 2012 11:06 PM
Ah Wildcat on the Browns!! Nice. Wade's pretty solid. Surrounded by a pretty terrible defense, but he's fluid.
Apr 28, 2012 7:06pm
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Apr 28, 2012 11:07 PM
Wade is nice value in the 7th. I would have rather had other corners, but he's a guy that could have gone off the board 2 or 3 rounds ago. His 40 times are questionable, but I think he'll make the roster at minimum.
Apr 28, 2012 7:07pm
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Apr 28, 2012 11:07 PM
lhslep134;1156454 wrote:Ah Wildcat on the Browns!! Nice. Wade's pretty solid. Surrounded by a pretty terrible defense, but he's fluid.
nfl.com had him rated pretty high at an 82.5
Apr 28, 2012 7:07pm
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Apr 28, 2012 11:07 PM
Our last pick was pretty Smelley... muahahahahahahaha:p
Apr 28, 2012 7:07pm
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Apr 28, 2012 11:08 PM
Brad Smelley
Apr 28, 2012 7:08pm
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Apr 28, 2012 11:08 PM
That pick stinks.

I'll be here all week.
Apr 28, 2012 7:08pm
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Apr 28, 2012 11:09 PM
NFL.com said he could go as high as round 2, probably a 4th-5th round talent. But he had a pretty good year, even if not so much statistically.
Apr 28, 2012 7:09pm
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Apr 28, 2012 11:10 PM
Well we took T-Rich and his lead blocker
Apr 28, 2012 7:10pm
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Apr 28, 2012 11:47 PM
So who do you guys want to target as undrafted free agents???

Some guys I would like

QB:Alex Tanney Monmouth
RB: Chris Polk Washington
WR: Eric Page Toledo, Dwight Jones UNC, Jeff Fuller A&M
TE: Deangelo Peterson LSU
OL: Mike Brewster OSU, James Brown Trou
DL: Josue Ortiz Harvard
LB:Vontaze Burfict ASU
DB: Chase Minnifield Virginia, Janzen Jackson McNeese, Aaron Henry Wisconsin
Apr 28, 2012 7:47pm
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Apr 28, 2012 11:49 PM
Reports are Browns signed WR Josh Cooper from Oklahoma State as an UDFA.
Apr 28, 2012 7:49pm