Dr. KnOiTaLL;1144504 wrote:However, I believe NFL scouts and coaches are a MUCH better judge of potential and ability than any of you (I know, lhslep134, hard to believe with all of your professional scouting experience), so if they find it necessary to take Weeden, I wouldn't be upset over the decision. All I said is I WOULDN'T MIND if they took him, I never said THEY HAVE to take him or THEY'D BETTER take him.

Dr. KnOiTaLL;1144551 wrote:This is what I said as a direct quote.

lhslep134;1144547 wrote:You said you wouldn't be upset with the decision because they're "MUCH better judges of talent".

The direct inference there is that you wouldn't be upset because you're assuming they're making the right decision. Am I wrong?

SportsAndLady;1144550 wrote:Yeah, because I think my opinion is so much better than everyones just because I don't think in my opinion Weeden is a good pick

/sarcasm

Crimson streak;1144561 wrote: As for the whole big 12 defense bs, it holds no weight. Either you can play in the nfl or you cant. .

lhslep134;1144571 wrote:If it holds no weight, find me an elite B12 QB from the past 10 years.

lhslep134;1144569 wrote:It's not about finding a QB to replace Colt, it's about the value the #37 pick has. History as shown you're probably not going to find a franchise QB in that range, Weeden doesn't look like a franchise QB, and there are several positions on our team where the starter can be chosen with pick #37. Why would you waste the pick on a non-franchise QB when there are other holes?

We don't know exactly how far it set back the franchise, but I don't think it's a stretch to say if this was a Jaguars board we'd be furious that we wasted a top 15 pick on a non-franchise QB when there were so many other holes on that team.

SportsAndLady;1144527 wrote:No one should be bashed for their opinion?

lol what?!

Hitler was awesome.

Dr. KnOiTaLL;1144576 wrote:I'm not going to argue with you, man. I agree completely that the Browns have a TON of holes that need to be addressed. I would prefer the Browns to address those holes rather than drafting a player for a position that we already have filled (QB). But like I said, if H + H determine that Weeden is who they need at 37, I won't complain about it until I see a lack of production on the field. This is all I was trying to say.

Dr. KnOiTaLL;1144576 wrote: But like I said, if H + H determine that Weeden is who they need at 37, I won't complain about it until I see a lack of production on the field.

Crimson streak;1144561 wrote:Your trashing the dudes opinion on weedon. To me that means you think your opinion is always right. I honestly think weedon can be a very good qb. Do I think the browns should take him? Not really I think there is better options. If he was 22-23 hell yes I would want him. As for the whole big 12 defense bs, it holds no weight. Either you can play in the nfl or you cant. Not because you faced certain defenses in college.

Enforcer;1144578 wrote:Hitlers actions made Him a bad Guy, If He would've just though it and not acted on it would that of made him bad?

lhslep134;1144571 wrote:If it holds no weight, find me an elite B12 QB from the past 10 years.

Crimson streak;1144602 wrote: Brady was horrible in college

lhslep134;1144571 wrote:If it holds no weight, find me an elite B12 QB from the past 10 years.

Crimson streak;1144602 wrote:Romo played against scrubs in college, Brady was horrible in college, dalton played against mwc defenses.

lhslep134;1144616 wrote:Well at least I didn't have to read very far to discredit your post. He was far from horrible.

Crimson streak;1144654 wrote:I really just don't think the big 12 qb thing is a big deal. Either you can play or you can't it's as simple as that

lhslep134;1144660 wrote:Yeah, it's that simple? Here's a list of people who dominated in that conference. Name me an elite QB please

Jason White
Colt McCoy
Graham Harrell
Todd Reesing
Chase Daniel
Taylor Potts
Sam Bradford
Blaine Gabbert


Those guys all put up monster stats and passed the "eye test" because they were playing against atrocious defenses. It's easy to look good when your competition blows.

Crimson streak;1144665 wrote:How many of those were first round picks? 1. None of them were expected to do anything in the nfl. So thank you for making my point

hoops23;1144668 wrote:Blaine Gabbert and Sam Bradford.

SportsAndLady;1144687 wrote:The #1 pick in the draft wasn't expected to do anything in the NFL? The #10 overall pick wasn't either?

Crimson streak;1144691 wrote:And there both young and the jury is still out on them. But not drafting a qb because they played in the big 12 is simply stupid.

Crimson streak;1144665 wrote: None of them were expected to do anything in the nfl.