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Apr 10, 2012 1:23 PM
DeyDurkie5;1140831 wrote:http://www.clevelandbrownsreport.info/2012/04/durk-weekly-think-logically-cleveland.html

article I wrote last night. Let me know what you think.
well i would have liked it more if i hadn't already read every single one of those points on here from you haha (and obviously we share a similar view of the situation).
Apr 10, 2012 1:23pm
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Apr 10, 2012 1:23 PM
As good as i think he will be, id still like Blackmon or trich at 4, and either Wilson, David, Wright, Hill at 22. I do like Alshon Jeffery but if we take a wide out in the first round i highly doubt they would take one at 37.
Apr 10, 2012 1:23pm
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Apr 10, 2012 1:25 PM
shook_17;1140960 wrote:the only thing that scares me durk and sleeper, is both claiborne and hadens contracts will both be expiring within 2 years of each other.. if claiborne pans out, we have to cbs that are going to be paid to 5 cb money. thats a lot of money tied up into one position.
That doesn't scare me in the least. Having that also allows you to move Sheldon "old balls" Brown the fuck out of the CB role. Plus with those two covering the WR, you free up the line to attack. The only thing is we still need to address the OLB position so those TE's can be covered.
Apr 10, 2012 1:25pm
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Apr 10, 2012 1:26 PM
Jenkins isn't going to last past the 1st round. It seems defensive players' off the field issues are of lesser concern to GM's than those of offensive players. I wouldn't mind Jenkins at 22 if we can find a way to get another 2nd
Apr 10, 2012 1:26pm
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Apr 10, 2012 1:29 PM
DeyDurkie5;1140971 wrote:That doesn't scare me in the least. Having that also allows you to move Sheldon "old balls" Brown the **** out of the CB role. Plus with those two covering the WR, you free up the line to attack. The only thing is we still need to address the OLB position so those TE's can be covered.
I see where you guys are coming from. I just think the FO would be hard pressed to wrap up 150 mill into two cornors. I could be wrong, who knows.
Apr 10, 2012 1:29pm
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Apr 10, 2012 1:31 PM
David and Zachary brown would both be very solid picks at 37. I wouldn't mind moving down to 6-10 area and taking Floyd while picking up extra picks and maybe moving up with our extra picks this year from 22 for Richardson or possibly the lb from Boston college
Apr 10, 2012 1:31pm
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Apr 10, 2012 1:34 PM
^^ i think richardson goes to tampa if we pass on him at 4.
Apr 10, 2012 1:34pm
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Apr 10, 2012 1:38 PM
I think Jenkins is for sure going in the first round.. His character "issues" don't really concern me.. He punched a dude sticking up for a friend one time, and he has been caught with marijuana twice. Nothing I'd really worry about.
Apr 10, 2012 1:38pm
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Apr 10, 2012 2:51 PM
http://www.draftcountdown.com/ScoutingReports/WR/Justin-Blackmon.php

Not as physically talented as former teammate Dez Bryant but doesn't come with nearly as much off-the-field baggage --- Profiles as a low-end #1 WR in NFL.

NFL Player Comparison: Anquan Boldin No thanks at #4
Apr 10, 2012 2:51pm
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Apr 10, 2012 5:38 PM
Jenkins will most likely be gone before the Browns pick at 22. As for me I think the browns either need to take Richardson or Claiborne at 4 and then take a WR at 22.
Apr 10, 2012 5:38pm
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Apr 10, 2012 5:41 PM
Y-Town Steelhound;1140844 wrote:If we're talking putting a QB on the roster this year still, don't sleep on Kirk Cousins if he falls down to the 4th-5th round. The guy had a pretty good career at MSU despite having very little talent around him on offense (can you name a Spartan offensive skill player from that period in the NFL? I sure can't).
Javon Ringer?
Apr 10, 2012 5:41pm
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Apr 10, 2012 6:09 PM
Iliketurtles;1141154 wrote:Jenkins will most likely be gone before the Browns pick at 22. As for me I think the browns either need to take Richardson or Claiborne at 4 and then take a WR at 22.
I think we gotta go Richardson at 4, and WR at 22. Those two picks should practically be locked in because our offense NEEDS two first round picks in order to TRY to get us out of the bottom third of the league in offense. I think only AFTER focusing on offense with our two firsts can we even think about supplementing our defense with a pick or two.
Apr 10, 2012 6:09pm
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Apr 10, 2012 7:06 PM
The more mocks I look at, the more I am becoming convinced that the Browns should trade UP from their SECOND pick to take Floyd. If we could land TRichardson and Floyd, that would SIGNIFICANTLY upgrade our offense instantly. Not saying that it would "add X number of wins," but the addition of these two studs would certainly make up for some of the deficiencies in our offense. This thought leads me to the question: What would it take to move up from #22 in order to land Floyd?​
Apr 10, 2012 7:06pm
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Apr 10, 2012 7:09 PM
Dr. KnOiTaLL;1141212 wrote:The more mocks I look at, the more I am becoming convinced that the Browns should trade UP from their SECOND pick to take Floyd. If we could land TRichardson and Floyd, that would SIGNIFICANTLY upgrade our offense instantly. Not saying that it would "add X number of wins," but the addition of these two studs would certainly make up for some of the deficiencies in our offense. This thought leads me to the question: What would it take to move up from #22 in order to land Floyd?​
Probably #22, #37, and a pick next year.
Apr 10, 2012 7:09pm
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Apr 10, 2012 7:12 PM
Dr. KnOiTaLL;1141212 wrote:: What would it take to move up from #22 in order to land Floyd?​
Well in a perfect world we trade back to like 8 or 9, take T-Rich there, and have ammo to move back up to get Floyd. Not sure how realistic that is though.
Apr 10, 2012 7:12pm
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Apr 10, 2012 7:45 PM
lhslep134;1141220 wrote:Well in a perfect world we trade back to like 8 or 9, take T-Rich there, and have ammo to move back up to get Floyd. Not sure how realistic that is though.
Don't think that would happen, but I could see them trading back to about those spots, maybe a little further and then trading up to get back in the first round to draft a 3rd 1st round pick. That would be legit.
Apr 10, 2012 7:45pm
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Apr 10, 2012 8:07 PM
I would love to have 3 1sts. Means we could get my boy Lavonte David and perhaps David DeCastro.
Apr 10, 2012 8:07pm
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Apr 10, 2012 8:08 PM
Commander of Awesome;1141253 wrote:I would love to have 3 1sts. Means we could get my boy Lavonte David and perhaps David DeCastro.
I would go all offense (no QB) if we had 3 first round picks.
Apr 10, 2012 8:08pm
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Apr 10, 2012 9:01 PM
I would prefer not to trade down because many experts are projecting the Bucs to take Richardson if he is there (although I have a hard time seeing them passing on Claiborne is he's available). However, it may be necessary to trade down from 4 (maybe to 6 or 7) in order to acquire multiple extra second round picks so that we can move up in the first (whether it be moving up from 22 or getting a third pick in the first round).

Regardless, I would really like to get Floyd; however, I don't see it happening with St. Louis and Jacksonville in our way...
Apr 10, 2012 9:01pm
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Apr 10, 2012 9:09 PM
Dr. KnOiTaLL;1141296 wrote:I would prefer not to trade down because many experts are projecting the Bucs to take Richardson if he is there (although I have a hard time seeing them passing on Claiborne is he's available). However, it may be necessary to trade down from 4 (maybe to 6 or 7) in order to acquire multiple extra second round picks so that we can move up in the first (whether it be moving up from 22 or getting a third pick in the first round).

Regardless, I would really like to get Floyd; however, I don't see it happening with St. Louis and Jacksonville in our way...
3 first round picks > Ricahrdson any day of the week.
Apr 10, 2012 9:09pm
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Apr 10, 2012 9:12 PM
like_that;1141302 wrote:3 first round picks > Ricahrdson any day of the week.
This.
Apr 10, 2012 9:12pm
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Apr 10, 2012 9:22 PM
Blackmon at 4...just fucking do it, H&H.

Edit: or a trade down..that'll work, too.
Apr 10, 2012 9:22pm
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Apr 10, 2012 9:24 PM
I'd be disappointed with Blackmon at 4.

I feel the 2nd and 3rd WR are closer to Blackmon than the 2nd and 3rd RB are to Trent.

If we don't take Trent, I'd rather trade down and accumulate more picks... As long as we don't trade out of the top 9 or 10.
Apr 10, 2012 9:24pm
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Apr 10, 2012 9:30 PM
hoops23;1141322 wrote:I'd be disappointed with Blackmon at 4.

I feel the 2nd and 3rd WR are closer to Blackmon than the 2nd and 3rd RB are to Trent.

If we don't take Trent, I'd rather trade down and accumulate more picks... As long as we don't trade out of the top 9 or 10.
I agree about Blackmon. At first I was all about getting him at 4, but the more I think about it, the WR talent is pretty good this draft, and I am not too sure Blackmon is that far ahead of the other guys.
Apr 10, 2012 9:30pm
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Apr 10, 2012 9:32 PM
like_that;1141330 wrote:I am not too sure Blackmon is that far ahead of the other guys.
He's not. I would argue he's not ahead of a few. I like other WRs better than him.
Apr 10, 2012 9:32pm